Cog & Cradle Of Filth
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Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
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Topic: Cog & Cradle Of Filth
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Subject: Cog & Cradle Of Filth
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 07:58
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I'm doing quite a bit of these now, mainly because I'm bored.
Cog are an Australian progressive alternative band. I am really suprised that they are not on this site already. They have 3 albums I think.
Cradle Of Filth, basically because they have a very progressive extreme element to them, and I don't think anyone has ever thought of them as "prog influenced"
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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 08:25
Cradle of Filth probably won't be included, because even the legendary Emperor aren't included yet. Emperor frontman's solo project http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2686 - Ihsahn
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, however, is included.------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 08:30
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Don't do it because you are bored. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 09:32
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Cog should be here yes. Cradle of Filth. LOL NO ------------- And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good 
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 13:38
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wow, people really don't like Cradle Of Filth, and the only reason I said them was a. I was a bit bored, and b. I'm a massive Filth fan And I don't mean bored, I mean uninspired to do actual work, but inspired to do these. I'm gonna fail my A levels, but by that time I shud be Oprah rich, hopefully |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 13:39
| and why is Emperor on here, and Ishahn is. I can see some experimental reasons, but if Enslaved & Opeth are on here, I think Emperor should be as well |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 13:48
| Cradle has a few progressive elements and progressed the extreme metal scene to new heights, but this is about prog music, not necesssarily progressive music as a whole. |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 16:32
Cog - once rejected some time ago ... and now lost in the desert  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 00:22
| Why were Cog rejected, and yes Cradle do have prog influences "PROG RELATED"!!!! |
Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 01:33
| Cradle of FIlth is for sure a negatory. |
Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 01:39
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You know that PA has a sister site, Metal Music Archives, for dealing with metal bands right?
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 07:29
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Cradle Of Filth ? Symph BM. Why not ? We already have BM bands in PA : Ulver, Enslaved, Arcturus, Negura Bunget, Drudkh and many others.------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 07:34
Dusk and her embrace is a 5-star album. I like them as well, not their whole discography but principles, dusk and midian are great albums.
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arcane-beautiful wrote:Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 13:04
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I prefer Cruelty & The Beast & Damnation & A Day, they excelt at concept albums. Never really liked Dusk to be honest, Danis voice wasnt as powerfull, some good songs tho. How come some prog related bands like Muse & Metallica are one here, and aren't actually prog, but a genuine prog band like Cog are rejected. This website has some very corrupt politics |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 13:22
you shouldn't say that - unfortunately you're misinformed  and don't know how we are workingwhen a band is rejected by a team it's the result of a democratic process based on votes. I didn't agree that Cog were rejected, but I have to accept this decision .. and I would be a fool to claim that this is corrupt ... and nobody can prevent me from listening to Cog whenever I want ... simple as that  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 19 2010 at 23:19
| but they are a prog band, thats like if everybody decided to not have Genesis on the website, It' just be odd |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 19 2010 at 23:26
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genesis is a classic prog band, while Cog isn't there are many (MANY) bands that have prog influence, but aren't on the site. Cog (in my opinion) is more alternative than prog. alternative in some ways had prog influence, but often not enough to get on here ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: September 19 2010 at 23:27
| COF is clearly an Xover band, can't you see? |
Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: September 20 2010 at 15:09
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Really? As the Crossover team doesn't agree with you on that one, would you care to explain in further detail how the compositional structure, the crafting of arrangements and the instrumental provess by the band makes them suitable for the genre? Or if there are other factors in terms of instrumentation or experimental attitudes the core members of the xover team have failed to notice? Please elaborate, in as much detail as possible. We're anxiously awaiting your extended knowledge and detailed analysis of this particular case. ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 20 2010 at 17:02
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I think Cog is a little mor Xover than COF. Cog is a lot like 3, in my opinion ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 21 2010 at 03:48
| what is xover? |
Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: September 21 2010 at 03:56
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short for Crossover, one of the subgenres in the database
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 06:05
| Ahh, makes sense now, I thot u's were all going mental their for a second |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 06:34
^ But we are going mental.  I thought that's clear.
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 20:58
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i think keep cog, ditch CoF ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 04:56
| oh, well thats fine and dandy then |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 06:31
progressive POP.
Also called art-pop or art-rock. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 07:16
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Cog Yes!
Filth NAAAH! ------------- 
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 19:34
I think this thread has come to a consensus  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: February 14 2015 at 17:54
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What is the status of Cog? Listening to them now and just wondering. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: kev rowland
Date Posted: February 15 2015 at 14:12
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I've never heard the band, so can't comment on whether they should be on the site or not, but looking at ProgFreak they don't appear to have been voted on by a sub group who uses it ------------- All five volumes of The Progressive Underground now available https://www.amazon.com/Kev-Rowland/e/B07RJVRB2X |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: February 15 2015 at 14:49
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Have a listen to most of their stuff on grooveshark: http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Sharing+Space/1314864" rel="nofollow - http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Sharing+Space/1314864 http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/The+New+Normal/247118" rel="nofollow - http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/The+New+Normal/247118 http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Just+Visiting+Part+1/7842436" rel="nofollow - http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Just+Visiting+Part+1/7842436 ...or on deezer: http://www.deezer.com/artist/74368#/artist/74368" rel="nofollow - http://www.deezer.com/artist/74368#/artist/74368 but ignore the 'Course Over Ground' album that they have listed on there...It's actually by another Cog - from Croatia, and you can also hear that one on bandcamp if you really want to (not really recommended though!): http://moonleerecords.bandcamp.com/album/course-over-ground" rel="nofollow - http://moonleerecords.bandcamp.com/album/course-over-ground . 'The New Normal' album by the Aussie Cog is also on myspace: https://myspace.com/cogrockmusic/music/songs" rel="nofollow - https://myspace.com/cogrockmusic/music/songs . Edit: - It's all on spotify too - but again, the Croatian Cog's album 'Course Over Ground' has been lumped in with the genuine stuff: http://open.spotify.com/artist/6gD6Pm7jo3mmKgDtyMruA6" rel="nofollow - http://open.spotify.com/artist/6gD6Pm7jo3mmKgDtyMruA6
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Posted By: kev rowland
Date Posted: February 15 2015 at 15:52
Interesting - but I couldn't ever see them on the site as they are too alternative to my ears. I certainly couldn't ever recommend them to Crossover ------------- All five volumes of The Progressive Underground now available https://www.amazon.com/Kev-Rowland/e/B07RJVRB2X |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 15 2015 at 16:25
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COG sounded post-rock(ish) to me (not suggesting they fit PA, I don't know) As for CoF, well....  |