Please recommend me a genesis album.
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Topic: Please recommend me a genesis album.
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Subject: Please recommend me a genesis album.
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:21
| A shame really...i have always overlooked genesis because of phil collins and have always tried to stay away from listening to this band and have only heard the most famous songs like Land of confusion, Dancing with the moonlit knight and i can't dance and so on. I actually only got the first genesis album on vinyl but that is hardly prog so i hope someone can recommend me a good first proper genesis album. |
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:25
| Foxtrot or Selling England By The Pound (especially the latter if you enjoyed Dancing With The Moonlit Knight). Be aware that Foxtrot's sound quality is far inferior to Selling... |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:28
| Hmm wich is the best genesis album in the phil collins era you reckon? Just wondering if there are good stuff there also... |
Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:28
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All of Gabriel-era Genesis albums (except the debut) are great, also Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering where Phil sings. If you like long epics, Foxtrot featuring Supper's Ready will please you. Double concept album Lamb Lies Down on Broadway may not be the best place to start. My and many other's favourite is Selling England by the Pound which has that Moonlit Knight you mentioned. Hopefully I answered your question before seeing it. |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:32
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I recommend Foxtrot, Trick Of The Tail, Nursery Cryme. Buy them in that order. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:36
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This is my list of Genesis albums that I would encourage anybody to get (in that order):
I can live without the rest, and life would be better without everything after Duke. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:39
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This is a wedding invitation... - Selling England By The Pound (the most omnicomprensive of their music); - Foxtrot (IMO more complex, with the masterpiece Supper's Ready); - Seconds out (the best live album of the era). I think this is a good start.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:56
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Start with Foxtrot, then get Nuresry Cryme. If you like those; buy Selling England by The Pound. Then, get Trick of The Tail. All four are masterpieces and probably their most acessible. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 04:06
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Wow, some differing of opinion here (surprise surprise!! Well, it might depend on what music you ALREADY like. For instance, I prefer symphonic prog such as Yes, Gentle Giant, Anglagard and Camel as well as the heavy prog bands like Rush and Kansas as well as modern stuff like Transatlantic and Shadow Gallery and if I were to recommend you a Genesis album, I would say start with Selling Enland by the Pound, Nursery Crime or Trespass. If you don't like any or most of the groups I mentioned then you probably should start with Foxtrot or Trick of the Tail first (since those are my least favorites of the early Genesis albums). Hope that helps! ------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 04:58
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Foxtrot from the Gabriel era A trick of the Tail from the Collins era Both brilliant but very different albums. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 05:55
Nursery cryme
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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 06:47
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Go for the fab trio of albums:
1. Nursery Cryme 2. Foxtrot 3. Selling England in that order,for a start. If you like it, then go get others too. Enjoy! |
Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 07:12
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When I bought "Selling England ..." on vinyl I went into the
cellar room (at night), turned off all lights and listened to that
strange mesmerizing sounds coming out of my stereo. It was a
revelation. You won't be the same person getting up to the surface of
normal life. Try it. Then you need "Foxtrott" and "Nursery cryme". (wait a few weeks) And then the masterpiece "The lamb lies down on Broadway". (wait a few weeks). This album is not easy to get digested. But it's great. "Trick of the tail" and even "Wind and wuthering" are reasonable Prog Rock albums with Collins at the microphone. But after that the decline to a pop band began. Not bad. But no compares to the earlier stuff. Just good pop music. Enjoy the second best group of music history! |
Posted By: proger
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 09:57
| SEBTP- good album to start with |
Posted By: Azrael2112
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 10:03
Read the reviews in the Prog Archive thats what they are there for.  ------------- http://www.flywithjet.com"> 
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 10:08
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Trust me get Foxtrot and Selling England by the Pound you won't be dissapointed. ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 10:17
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A Trick Of The Tail is my favourite Genesis album (any era). Essential: A Trick Of The Tail (5/5) ONE OF MY TOP FIVE ALL TIME ALBUMS Seconds Out (4/5) GOOD LIVE ALBUM THAT ACTS AS A COMPILATION Selling England By The Pound (5/5) BEST PG ERA GENESIS ALBUM FOR ALL ROUND QUALITY OF SONGS AND PRODUCTION Foxtrot (5/5) SUPPERS READY Nursery Cryme (4/5) GREAT SONGS/ROUGH SOUND QUALITY Wind And Wuthering (4/5) LAST GREAT GENESIS PROG ALBUM Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (4/5) GREAT FIRST DISC BUT QUALITY DROPS ON SECOND DISC
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Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 14:29
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I highly recommend Seconds Out: a) the song selection is incredible, and only from the Gabriel/Hackett era b) the production and engineering is incredible, much better than the studio versions
------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 14:41
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I'd say get 'em all. The good ones are great! And even the bad ones aren't really complete wastes!
------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 14:51
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Trespass - This is the one to start with, then move up chronologically. That way, you'll get a true sense of Genesis's evolution. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 17:04
IMO, the second disc is far better then the first one, Gabriel sings better! |
richardh wrote:Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 18:45
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Take it from "Trespass" and further on, one step at the time and stop right after "A trick of the Tail"
------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 18:50
| Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme |
Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 20:22
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I would have to say that Selling England By The Pound would be the best
bet for an intro. It has great songs, a bit stronger than Foxtrot or
Nursery Cryme (which are both awesome and the next 2 to get), and not
as sprawling and contriversial as The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (My
fave, but definitely not for the uninitiated.) If you want to explore
Phil era stuff, Wind and Wuthering and Duke are my faves (Sorry to the
hardcore, but I do really like Duke). For live stuff, Seconds Out features Bruford on some tracks (Cinema Show is orgasmic) and the 73 Live one is great too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 20:26
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One large word for you my friend. FOXTROT! (No explanation provided) |
Posted By: progod
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 21:15
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Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, or Selling England By The Pound ------------- Fernando Coto Posse |
Posted By: eriksalkeld
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 21:19
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1. Foxtrot ------------- Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien. |
Posted By: Poxx
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 21:20
| I think the 'Lamb' would be the proper place to start. Easily identifiable 3-5 mins pop/rock tunes. The only thing "controversial" is the retarded story and concept, something Gabriel did for people to sit and overanalyze, turning the focus away from the poorly made tunes. |
Posted By: SheriffJB
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 21:26
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F O X T R O T !  ------------- Tom MacMillan Sacramento, CA 
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 21:27
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you must be joking. ------------- 
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 21:41
Yeah, I second that emotion. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 05:46
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I would start with Live. A great album with some of their best songs. But if it must be a studio album, get Nursery Cryme (their third album) is a good way to start off. It's the first album with the classic lineup that really established their sound. It's worth it solely for The Musical Box, which is the definitive Genesis song that established their sound in my opinion. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 05:48
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Everything from Gabriel Genesis...
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 06:47
| Foxtrot, Lamb lies down on broadway, Nursery crime |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 08:15
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I tell you, the best way to start to discover Genesis is when you start with NURSERY CRYME. It's the first record with Phil Collins on drums and Steve Hackett on guitar and the album where Genesis found their own niche. It got the perfect place to start with the classic "The Musical Box". After that record, you should go for FOXTROT and it's progressive term, with one of prog's greatest epics "Supper's Ready". Next should be SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND, which is the most complete record of the golden-era Genesis. You already know "Dancing With The Moonlit Knight", so you'll get more classics like "The Cinema Show", "Firth Of Fifth" (with one of prog's best and definitive guitar solos), the band's first hit "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe") and the brilliant instrumental "After The Ordeal". This is also the best produced record of Genesis, with a very fine sound, where you can hear all the instruments very well, I recommend you to buy the difinitive edition remastered cd, from all classic Genesis albums though. My introduction to Genesis was the double album THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY, which was not the perfect start to get into the band. It's Genesis mostly dark, hidden doored and also most artistic release and when you grow into the story and music of this record you will for sure fall in love with. After the Gabriel swansong LAMB LIES DOWN..., you'll get with A TRICK OF THE TAIL and WIND AND WUTHERING two more classic records from the progressive Genesis, with Phil Collins on vocals. Another great addition is the double live record SECONDS OUT, Steve Hackett's last official release with Genesis, he left after this one to go further with his solo career. Don't forget the first Genesis live album called GENESIS LIVE from the year 1972 with the classic line-up and some of their best songs performed live and the band's second studio album TRESPASS, which is the first progressive Genesis release, with great melodies and long instrumental passages. It contains their hardest track and first big classic "The Knife", which is close to prog metal! Look out for this great album somewhere between the recommended ones from my side. If you have enough money, buy the first Genesis archive boxset from their early period with unrealeased material and a complete live performance of the LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY record. That's all what you need.
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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 04:21
| Don't forget Trespass, the album that layed the groundwork. It wasn't complete until Nursery Cryme, but Trespass is an excellent essential album after the big 4 (Nursery, Foxtrot, Selling, Lamb). |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 04:22
Trespass is the big 5... -------------
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 22:00
| Get therapy. |
Posted By: yesman72
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 04:13
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Most people say Foxtrot has more meet but I prefer Selling England. But you shouldn't get either until you have Close to the Edge by Yes......sorry It's just so good. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 04:16
Yep ofcourse i got the fantastic close to the edge and has actually gotten Selling england...and is perhaps a bit disapointed as i expected all the songs to be ecually great i personally only find the title track, firth of filth and the battle of epping forrest to be the really interesting tracks but i guess i will continue exploring genesis with either foxtrot or the lamb |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 04:39
Try "Trespass", no Collins there!  I think it's their best...
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