Actually I like the drum sounds on SEBTP and LLDOB. Neither are particularly "true to life" I suppose but they still sound good. As for earlier albums, .

Of course if we are speaking of "drumming only" Phil is the best of those three.

Fro the other side, I've never regarded Nick as an unique technician, but I like his drumming.

 

A vote for Phil.

Having expressed a negative comment, let me clarify: I don't have anything against Phil Collins as drummer. He's surely more skilled than Mason. It's that I don't like his solo works at all and I barely like Genesis. 

Mason gives me more emotions and is perfect for Pink Floyd. I don't think Pink Floyd would have been the same with a different drummer, even a more skilled one. 

If the post is about skill, there's no discussion, instead. Phil Collins is a drummer, Mason plays drums.

I don't think that Nick Mason ruined anything at all. I have been a Pink Floyd fan since 1972 and I can't hear anything on their albums that might make me think so. Nevertheless, I think that Phil Collins is the most skilled of these two drummers and therefore I abandon my default behaviour of voting for Pink Floyd in this poll.

 

His drumming on Saucerful and Ummagumma was quite brilliant.  I've no doubt it was technically unsound, but who cares as long as it sounds good.

 

I find it hard to vote as Collins had some brilliant moments too. In the end i went for Mason because the drumming in the classic Pink Floyd work is slightly more important IMO than the drumming in the classic Genesis work.

It's what I wanted to say, but you said it better 

 

Phil Collins was one the most skilled drummers of the 70's, perhaps the best decade for drummers ever.

 

Sure the guy sang Illegal Alien among other lame choices, but the guy had skill on the skins.

 

That's a good answer. As Wakeman said once, the true about a performer is the live performance. Mason is not bad, but Collins is one of the best.

 

Never heard this before. Sounds interesting. Could you tell something else about?

Phil Collins is a better drummer but I can't stand his face, do you remember the video of "On the air tonight"? He looks like Death in a Bergman's movie...I feel more sympathy for Mason and the butterfly on his t-shirt at Pompeii (well it was in London but the director didn't tell).

Out of his band Mason produced (and signed) a Carla Bley album and a not so bad collaboration with 10cc's Fenn. Think to what Collins did alone.

Mason never danced with a high-pitched disco performer.

Collins is a great drummer, the problem is that he write songs and sings them. If he was limited to drums he'd have received my vote. 

Don't ask me if I prefer Picasso or Bowie as painter. (because I prefer Bowie )

Last but not least, Nick Mason has still some hair. Phil Collins doesn't.

 

Ok. I was read and listened this, but I didn't relate it with what Dean said. Thanks anyway.

All irrelevant as this poll asks for the better drummer. Any other take on it is deficient.

I'm sorry but I thought that the fact that I'm joking was evident. I don't see a possible comparison between the two in terms of drumming, for the same admission of Nick Mason. In Inside Out he says that he had to "study" his own parts for Live8 and he was no longer drumming since the last Pink Floyd tour in the 90s.

The poll results are currently 63 to 16,. All the "serious" things have already been said I think.

Do you really think that I prefer Bowie to Picasso? I know that Bowie paints but I've never seen any of his paintings. 

How could I care about the quantity of hair on the head of a drummer? 

If my joke is obvious your reply is as irrelevant as mine.  If not, please all the participants to the thread forgive me.

Phil Collins was once one of the finest drummers on the planet.

It's a shame that a singer by the same name killed him.

His voice is not bad at all. The problem is in the rubbish pop things that he produced in the 80s. He has been killed by a songwriter in search of easy money. The singer is not guilty

 

 

Thanks, your the first that agrees with my first reply to this post. At least one 

"Phil Collins is probably more skilled as drummer, he sings and has a good voice. But I like that metronome with moustaches more. I think I prefer Ringo Starr to Phil Collins, too."

So another vote for the "inferior" drummer.

Sorry I thought you voted for Mason.

Effectively I voted for Mason, but it was already very irrelevant: after my vote we were 15 to 3 if I remember correctly,and with no chances for Nick. My vote is probably the most irrelevant thing that I have given to this thread. 

I want to say another irrelevant thing then I'll stop replying here as I don't want to monopolize the thread: my favourite drummer is Andy Ward.

That's why I voted for Mason... The question itself is meaningless. About drumming and skill there's nothing to discuss. I thought the poll had a sense only looking at marginal aspects (fit for purpose in the band and so on) otherwise there's nothing to discuss. It's like asking who is the best guitarist between John McLaughlin and Jon Anderson. 

 

But both are also not amazing in the first place, yet very suited to their bands. But then the Genesis live album mentioned above, and Pompeii kind of disprove the claims of mediocrity. They are certainly more dynamic in a live setting.

 

But in any case, its too insignificant to vote. Palmer/Peart would provoke more interest. Or White/Bruford if you want to start an argument... he he......

I think the slower calmer drumming in his later years was due in part to Waters direction of the bands music as a whole, so Mason did not get the creative input as he did pre-Dark Side of the Moon.

Collins on the other hand was a good singer and excellent drummer as well but my vote still goes to Mason because I never liked Genesis to much.

 

So, Collins is the best of the two and better than so many...

 

that tells alot...

Might be true, especially when Neil Peart did the same thing.

So PF didn't have a drummer then?

But i believe that both fit their bands respectfully.

Though i wish Mason was a little more talented..

 

I did not vote in this poll.

 

 

I like going around saying that Genesis fans never heard Pink Floyd until AFTER the Dark Side album, and by then, Nick's drumming was no longer appreciated anyway ... but when one sits through "Live in Pompeii", which most Dark Side and Wall fans will not do ... they have no reason to compare him to Mr. Collins.

 

It's ok. Nick doesn't care. And once replied ... chips and beans? ... when asked that type of question ... he's not into the ego rock/music thing at all ... and he concentrates on what he does, not the rest of the bs, including some really bad comparisons.

 

Btw, Phil went from being a good drummer to a lousy drummer, when he started singing more, and his best drumming is not even in a Genesis album ... it can be found in a few Eno albums and some Brand X albums, where the music was considerably more challenging and he had to concentrate on teh music rather than sing!

Phil Collins without a doubt

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