Progressive Metal: Most important band
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Topic: Progressive Metal: Most important band
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: Progressive Metal: Most important band
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 05:21
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Please see my other poll, too (best prog metal band except DT, MANY options): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8144&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8144&a mp;PN=1
I saw the other prog metal poll and it's limited (no Pain Of Salvation) and questionable (MalmstEIn) choices and decided to start a new poll about it. The poll is not meant to offer all Progressive Metal bands to vote for (there are more than 25, I'm sure). If you feel that your favorite band is so different from the listed alternatives, please post a message, I'm always willing to expand my horizon.
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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:34
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DT The best (IMO) and my favorite. |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:43
JUp, DT all the way.... ow, and i think SYL is a melodic death metal bad.... AND YOU FORGOT ABOUT SUCH BANDS LIKE FATES WARNING AND QUEENSRYCHE!!!! These to are the oldest progmetal band around, they defined the sound, wich DT so grandly expanded. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:50
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The noose is tied
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:51
| Psychotic Waltz or Fates Warning, neither are that close to being my favourite but they're both historically important. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:02
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Pain of Salvation -------------  |
Posted By: Kubla Khan
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:08
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the first three bands are important
the others are just metal. ...and acoustic moments of opeth |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:18
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Thanks for your replies and votes so far! Yes, I forgot some bands. I wanted to keep this poll simple. I forgot Shadow Gallery, Vanden Plas, Threshold, Fates Warning, Tool, Ayreon and Heaven's Cry (and some others I cannot put my finger on now). Queensryche: I wouldn't call them Progressive Metal. Operation: Mindcrime is IMO a masterpiece METAL album. I'll add another poll soon with a slightly different concept and twice as many bands. Feel free to post any other bands that you think are essential Progressive Metal bands. By essential I mean that their influence on, or output of Progressive Metal is essential for the genre. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:26
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You're right about SYL, except for their latest record, which nicely blends the progressive elements of the Devin Townsend solo records into the SYL mayhem ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Ed_The_Dead wrote:
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:31
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I don't think that the others are just metal. And as far as Opeth is concerned, I'm sure that their "Progressiveness" is not limited to the acoustic parts. But one could say that their agressive sections are Progressive Metal, and the acoustic ones are Progressive Rock. But this increasingly hypothetical person would surely not be me ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:47
| Regardless of whether people like them or not, Dream Theater are the band that popularised the genre and, as a result can be considered the most impotant. |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:19
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Well, so We've came to the conclusion that SYL is a progressive melodic death metal band.... at least "Alien" is... But this album is a bit to much for me... Becouse i don't feel the melodic parts of it... so its prog death? To BIG of a hardcore to me ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 08:39
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I think that SYL: Alien is Epic Progressive Hardcore. It's not really Death Metal, because Devin rather screams than growls, and the lyrics are far from the typical Death Metal stuff. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 10:02
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Dream Theater |
Posted By: InfinityCascade
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 10:42
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The Gathering... ------------- While your reading signitures, your losing brain cells... The average internet geek spends three years reading signitures... Thankyou all for your brain cell donations... |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 11:50
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The Gathering ... I hadn't noticed that they're seen as a progressive metal band. Actually, I think they are quite progressive, and if you look at all their albums, on "average" it's progressive metal. I'll post another poll shortly, with many more options and WITHOUT Dream Theater. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 11:58
Without Dream Theater?  . Whats the sence of it then ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 12:11
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We know that any prog metal poll will be dominated by Dream Theater. But there are other Prog Metal bands, too, so it will be interesting to see which band is the second best. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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. Whats the sence of it then
Posted By: sstarless
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 13:02
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most important in a sense of influence and popularity DT, but not the best. ------------- Io sono nato libero |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 12:54
Dream Theater 
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 14:54
| Dream Theater by miles. (IMO) |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 15:02
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No mention of those who inventend prog metal in the year 1969: High Tide. They were the first and are the best. -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 15:05
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You seriously need to put Queensryche or Fates Warning onto there. Those two are huge pioneers of Progressive Metal. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 15:09
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There is no way for me to know about them ... there are no samples, no tracks in the P2P network, no preview on amazon.com, no CDs in stores. Shrug ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 15:41
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Since no Queensryche or Fates Warning are on there, the next best would be Dream Theater. Though I don't particularly care for Queensryche or FW, they are the most important in the prog-metal genre. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 17:28
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Both "Sea Shanties" and "High Tide" by High Tide are available from
amazon.com. And nine ratings for "Sea Shanties"; seven give 5 stars and
two 4 stars out of 5 possible ones. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 18:44
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I looked for them on amazon.com ... there ARE samples available on amazon.de. But they seem more like an early version of the Doors, or Camel, with heavy folk influences. But the samples are not a good basis for a solid opinion ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 25 2005 at 18:59
They are NOWHERE like that! They are much much heavier! They invented prog metal. "Sea Shanties" is a relentless album that gets 5 stars from me. The self-titled 2nd album is a little less heavy, but still heavy enough; due to its shortness (just 32 minures) I give it only 4 stars though.. But both are excellent. "Death Warmed Up", the instrumental from their first album, is one of the wildest tracks ever!!! What is true though is that the vocals sound a little like the Doors. But the Doors were never even close to that heavy! ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 04:34
Trust Friede on that. The first chords of "Sea Shanties" immediately tell you where the journey will be going. And when the electric violin enters a few bars later you will be blown off your chair. And this is just the beginning. This is an album that has to be played LOUD! No, LOUDER! LOUDER, I said. Now this is RIGHT! ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 05:07
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Just buy "Sea Shanties" and the 2nd self-titled album by High Tide. There may be harder bands today, but High Tide were the first. And pioneers should always be respected. The wild guitar and the furious violin battling all of the time were absolutely new at that time. And no-one in his or her right mind can deny the guitar and the violin are wild and furious. "But are they prog?" you may ask. Definitely! The structures of the musical themes are very complicated, and there are even examples of polyphony, which is very rare, even among prog rockers. Also, as heavy as they may be, High Tide are very much on the psychedelic side. If I had to brand their style I would call it "psychedelic hard-fusion", though even that doesn't do them justice; elements of blues as well as folk are also there. Their music defies being named. Just listen to them. Just to show you how different the view on them can be: Tibor Kneif mentions "High Tide" as an example for jazz-rock in his book "Sachlexikon der Rock Musik" ("Encyclopedia of Rock Music Terms")! Now as excellent as this book is elsewhere, I think he is wide off the mark here, although one can certainly hear what gave him the idea to file them there. Don't hesitate, get "Sea Shanties" and "High Tide" now! And also "Precious Cargo", though this one is in a completely different style; it is definitely a psychedelic album, and the heaviness is almost gone completely. But still excellent! 5 stars for "Sea Shanties", 4 for "High Tide" and "Precious Cargo". By the way, you just have to read the comments of listeners about "Sea Shanties" at amazon to know this is a VERY heavy album. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: felixxx
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 06:04
| AYREON!!!! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 11:05
I'll add them to my list of bands that I should check out ... I agree that it is absolutely vital to explore the origins of one's favorite band or genre. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 11:10
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Nuff Said |
Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 12:24
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1. Dream Theater ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; 2. Symphony X |
Posted By: Amon
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 15:54
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As Psychotic Waltz is not in I'd say Symphony X. ------------- Reinvent the wheel |
Posted By: Hammill
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 16:06
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no watchtower? no fates warning? no sieges even? no secrecy? no mekong delta? no quuensryche? no soul cages? ..................................................no
psycho tic waltz???? from the list i choose DT, because they used to be
great and they influenced a lot.
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Posted By: Hammill
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 16:07
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and something, stop calling bands like opeth and evergrey prog, cause they are not.
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 07:43
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Has to be Pain of Salvation, also because DT is not my thing. Second is Shadow Gallery, their latest album is great!! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 08:21
You should write a review ... it's a shame that there are only a handful Room V reviews, compared to the Octavarium spam madness. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 08:57
Believe it or not, I also go for PoS as the most important, with Shadow Gallery as second, because both bands are very distinct and in their own ways, have pushed back the somewhat narrow boundaries of Prog Metal back, to broaden the playing field... I love Room V btw (4 stars; and I'm very stingy!). ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 04:02
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WHERE THE HELL ARE QUEENSRYCHE AND FATES WARNING???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? LETS BE SERIUS PLEASE |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 04:56
See my other poll (Top prog metal except DT). ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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