Primus.
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Topic: Primus.
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Primus.
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 13:51
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I am a huge Primus fan. I've been in many discussions about
Primus being considered prog or not. A lot of sites mention
Primus being proggy because of their influences. Same goes with
other Les Claypool projects like Oysterhead and the Frog Brigade. If you've heard a decent amount of Primus what do you think? I say yes, because a lot of Primus is wacky like Mr. Bungle (prog), complex like King Crimson (prog), and improvisational like Mahavishnu (prog). allmusic lists their influences as Frank Zappa, Rush, Beefheart, Crimson,Tony Levin, Peter Gabriel... I can hear each. And if a decent amount of us agree on this, Primus should be inducted into the site. I can provide the bio and some songs. |
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 13:55
| I have heard "Jerry was a Race Car Driver" but i don't think they are prog enough. Maybe i should listen to them more and maybe i'll change my mind. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 13:56
| People have said that Primus should be considered prog for being Fusion alone. |
Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 14:21
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Although I'm a big Primus fan (I own all their material)...I'm sure chances are you're gonna get some flack bringing them up here. In their own right, they're pretty unique but stop and investigate the songs...they're basically a jam band with some quirky moments (live will tell you all you need to know). Don't get me wrong, I think they've always been good, just not THAT good to be considered in the "annals" of these archives... But then again, hell why not? For their influences/textures alone; so much snobbery around... |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 14:28
Define 'Fusion' - once this meant 'Jazz Rock Fusion', which as devote Primus fan, I know they rarely touch on. But having just read on Amazon.UK about Dave Matthews being 'Fusion', I get to wonder if somebody has yet again been screwing with musical terminology yet again, as with R'n'B or indeed frequently with the term progressive rock here? |
projeKct dan wrote:Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 14:29
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On a semi-side note, a friend of mine let me hear Primus play Rush's "La Villa Strangiato" on a live set. It was an amazing cover, and Les pulled off the bass parts amazingly!!
I'm not sure if I would consider them Prog, but I can see where they may be prog-like. Like previously said, they have plenty of Prog influences and have a great virtuosic sound that is evident on their stage performances. -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 22:54
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Prog-influenced definetely, I'd say they're one of the mest creative current bands in music definetely. ------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 23:05
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Claypool should stick with bass and hire another vocalist. ------------- "Don't listen to me." |
Posted By: Bowzo
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 23:27
I concur wholeheartedly! Haha Claypool is possibly one of the most amazing virtuosic bassists in the history of the planet, and he knows what he's at. He can play technically he's worked with Danny Carey and Adrian Belew. So even if Primus don't inducted i really think Les should. He's very creative, sometimes not overly technical, but Prog doesn't require that. So i think Yes Claypool should, I'm not sure about Primus though.. |
Posted By: 46and2
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 23:29
PRIMUS SUCKS!!!! PRIMUS SUCKS!!!! (for those who get it hahaha)
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Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: June 04 2005 at 23:30
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they don't like that anymore ------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 00:44
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I think we have to remember, SUPERTRAMP is here! that opens the floodgates. ------------- 
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Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 00:52
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Spock's Beard. ------------- "Don't listen to me." |
Posted By: Darshan
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 04:20
| I agree, Primus should be included, Les Claypool's playing alone shows influences from Chris Squire. |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 05:35
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I've only heard a couple of Primus LPs and really dug them, even if they get a bit silly at times. I own and love the Primus EP "Sailing the Seas of Cheese"....their influences are obvious from their excellent cover versions of "Intruder" and "Have a Cigar".....are they "prog"? Hell, if Styx, Rush and Kansas are considered progressive than Primus should be considered avant-garde! And, yeah, Chris Squire definitely had an influence on Les....Great Taste/Les Claypool! ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 08:38
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They definetely have prog material, "southbound pachyderm" could have easily been recorded by Crimson in 1974. Their influences are steeped in prog with Les' Wetton/Squire/ hybrid bass palying, Ler's Frippesque guitar noodling and Herb's phenomenal progressive Neil Peart styled drumming. They've covered prog songs as varied as YYZ, Theela Hun Jinjeet, Have A Cigar, Intrude, In The Flesh and La Villa Strangiato and showed that they all logically fit within their style. I'd say they're not a prog band overall, but definetely of interest to prog fans. ------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:26
| Primus is not prog, but they are pretty funny |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:06
| The latest EP can put them into the Experimental Rock section of prog, and their live shows alone put them into the Fusion scene. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 07:58
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Spent an evening listening to Les Claypool with and without Primus - Les is Les, so please give the clue to the Squire connection - Flea maybe.......... |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 08:06
I heard very little of Primus, but I must say that Claypool's vocals struck me definitely! IN THE WORST MANNER POSSIBLE!  ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: June 08 2005 at 17:52
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Primus is not prog... it's not because you do complex songs you are prog. ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: Zoidberg
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 17:00
Reading this made me want to puke. If Primus isn't prog than what is? Instead of just saying they arn't prog, explain a little. They are much more of a prog band than many of those already listed on this god forsaken site.
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