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Topic: a Mastodon question - how would you define them
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: a Mastodon question - how would you define them
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 13:33

I have all the full length studio albums, from Remission up till Crack the Skye

they have been called everything within Metal (every suitable genre), from Death, Sludge, prog, stooner, alternative, psych, jazz, metal/hard/math core, doom, experimental, hard, and trash/groove metal, and everything in-between, they have even made a new term Whalecore, but to me they are unique yes they are metal but they don't sound like ANY other metal band, I have checked, (mostly because of which songs featured on albums, the way songs are constructed, how parts are effortlessly changing, how they can vary between ground shaking riffage and assaults (Trampled under Hoof, Mother Puncher and where Strides the Behemoth), and beautiful textural guitar layers and tapestry, like in Ghost of Karelia, Ol’Nessie, Megalodon and Sleeping Giant), and experimental tracks and also everything in-between)

 

 their use of not very distorted guitars) not even on their most brutal album Remission are the guitars overly distorted, the guitar sound is more Lynard Skynard, AC/DC sounding then actual death metal chugged riff.

They are something of a very heavy rock band or a hard metal band.

 

What would you call the genre which Mastodon are playing, name 3 things which make them stand out as a band.

 

they are undoubtingly my favourite 00s band



Edited by aginor - 05 August 2010 at 13:38

 



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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 13:45
What about "Eclectic Metal?"  Wink

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 14:09
yeah that is probably right, they do have an eclectic feel to them, KC is their favourite band.


Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 14:13
Eclectic makes a lot of sense. I was introduced to them because of my love of Sludge Metal, and they certainly have some element of that, but it is insufficient to describe their sound.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 14:20
Eclectic / Expeimental metal is what i call them, Whalecore since they are massive in many aspects (not only becouse they have a whale on their 2nd album Leviathan).


Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 14:29
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Eclectic / Expeimental metal is what i call them, Whalecore since they are massive in many aspects (not only becouse they have a whale on their 2nd album Leviathan).


Herman Melville is one of my favorite authors, so how could I not love a concept album about Moby Dick?


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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 16:12
They're the one prog-influenced sludge-type metal band who made it out of the bars of the deep south. There are plenty more all over the place (but, admittedly, none as good). And despite their geographical origins, I don't understand why people slap the "southern" label on their music.

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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 16:48
Prog sludge metal.

I think there are a couple things that really help make Mastodon the the best modern metal band:

They're extreme, but not completely so.  They walk a fine line between the traditional heavy metal and more extreme metal genres in terms of heaviness.  They helped me bridge that gap and it gives the band a lot of appeal on all ends of the metal spectrum.

They've always focused on excellent melody.  Even in their earliest stages as a band (when they were the heaviest and most extreme), their music always gave way for strong melody.  Examples: March of the Fire Ants, Blood and Thunder, Hunters of the Sky, Ghost of Karelia, to name a few.  While there's enough raucous headbanging energy in there to keep metalheads satiated, there's still plenty of excellent melody that progheads love.

Brann Dailor.  A lot of people likened them to eclectic metal, and a lot of that is due to Brann's drum proficiency.  His drumming stands far away from metal drumming stereotypes like blast beats and machine gun bass pedals.  His focus on dynamics gives the band the energy that ties all their elements together and gives it a boost of energy.  His incredible drum fills and interspersing techniques are really unique to the band alone.

I've got some more reasons in mind but I have to go.  Case in point, Mastodon rules. Rawks


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 17:17

I realy like Trampled Under Hoof when the riff just destroys everything and sounds like a mountain is falling to pieces, (the riff in the main - verse), drungrungdrugdrungdrung, drungrungdrugdrungdrung, drungrungdrugdrungdrung, drungrungdrugdrungdrung, (well so it sounds in my head) 5 times is it repeated



Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 17:42
Atheist is Ecletic metal too? Jazz-Latino-Death Metal, a lot ecletic Approve

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 19:15
CAN THIS BE MOVED TO http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=44 - Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation   pleace, it fitts better there


Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 20:24
Psychedelic/Progressive Sludge Metal.  They're metal; no doubt about that.  Wonderful band, BTW.  Brann is one of the best metal drummers out there in the current scene.

 Oh, and I think they do have that "southern" sound to them... they listen to a lot of blues and southern rock as well as a multitude of progressive music.  Two or three members are from Georgia, I believe.

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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 21:13
I would consider them Progressive Sludge metal.


Posted By: Mastosis
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 22:41
I call them my favorite band! Thumbs Up


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 23:48

I couldn't stop the moderator and admin that still dwells inside me from saying that this topic is in the wrong forum section.It should be in Prog bands,Artists & Genre Appreciation.



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Posted By: El Pollo Guerrera
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 00:10
If anyone asks me to describe Mastodon, my answer is usually "Imagine Motorhead playing early Rush."


Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 03:08
Originally posted by El Pollo Guerrera El Pollo Guerrera wrote:

If anyone asks me to describe Mastodon, my answer is usually "Imagine Motorhead playing early Rush."
 
 
LOL perfect.


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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 08:35
Progressive Stoner Sludge Space Metal

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 08:56
Sludge metal with progressive rock/metal and hard rock/heavy metal influences.


Posted By: PinkFloydrulez
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 17:02
sludge gone prog

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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 22:59
I actually think of them as more of a post metal band. Play "Oceanic" by Isis and "Leviathan" back to back and you'll get where I'm coming from. 

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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 01:22
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

I actually think of them as more of a post metal band. Play "Oceanic" by Isis and "Leviathan" back to back and you'll get where I'm coming from. 

No.  Just... no.

ISIS and Mastodon share a similar heavy tonality and sludgy tendencies, but Mastodon are not post metal.  Not remotely so.


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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 01:58
Mastodon are difficult to descrie but technical thrash  metal is one way
 
Mastodon recently programmed allnight rock program in Australia called RAGE
 
their playlist reflects their influences.
 
as follows:
 

RAGE playlist

10:02am

MASTODON Oblivion (Warner)
BJORK Bachelorette (Polydor)
VAN HALEN Hot For Teacher (Warner)
THIN LIZZY The Boys Are Back In Town (Independent)
THE RAMONES Pet Sematary (Festival)
DAVID BOWIE Ashes To Ashes (EMI)

10:30am

PHIL COLLINS In The Air Tonight (Atlantic)
PETER GABRIEL Sledgehammer (Virgin)
MEN AT WORK Overkill (Sony)
JOHNNY CASH The Orange Blossom Special (Sony)
AGAINST ME! Thrash Unreal (Warner)
MASTODON Divinations (Warner)

23:59pm

IRON MAIDEN Aces High (EMI)

12:00am

JUDAS PRIEST Freewheel Burning (Sony)
LED ZEPPELIN Whole Lotta Love (Warner)
BLACK SABBATH The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (EMI)
ALICE IN CHAINS Man In The Box (Sony)
SOUNDGARDEN Spoonman (Polydor)
FAITH NO MORE I Started A Joke (Polydor)

12:30am

THE JESUS LIZARD Puss (Shock)
QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE First It Giveth (Universal)
CURSIVE Big Bang (Stomp)
DEFTONES Be Quiet And Drive (Warner)
THE DEAD KENNEDYS - LIVE Holiday In Cambodia (Virgin)
THE RAMONES Psycho Therapy (Festival)
WEEZER We Are All On Drugs (Universal)
AT THE DRIVE-IN Invalid Litter Dept. (Virgin)

1:00am

THE MARS VOLTA Goliath (Universal)
PINK FLOYD Us And Them (Polydor)

YES Owner Of A Lonely Heart (Warner)
GARY NUMAN We Are Glass (Warner)

1:30am

THE MELVINS Honeybucket (Warner)
CLUTCH Soapmaker (Sony)
ISIS In Fiction (Shock)
HIGH ON FIRE Devilution (Riot)
LAMB OF GOD Set To Fail (Roadrunner)
TRIVIUM Anthem (We Are The Fire) (Roadrunner)
HATEBREED I Will Be Heard (Universal)

2:00am

TOOL Schism (Jive/Zomba)
DYING FETUS Shepherd's Commandments (Riot)
SLIPKNOT Psychosocial (Roadrunner)
AGAINST ME! White People For Peace (Warner)
ANTI-FLAG This Is The End (For You My Friend) (SBME)
RISE AGAINST Audience Of One (Universal)

2:30am

NO FX Stickin' In My Eye (Shock)
BARONESS Wanderlust (Riot)
MESHUGGAH Shed (Riot)
HELMET Give It (Warner)
MINISTRY N.W.O. (Warner)

TURBONEGRO F= The World (Shock)
CHILDREN OF BODOM In Your Face (Universal)

3:00am

ENTOMBED - LIVE Stranger Eons (Independent)

FEATURED VIDEOS

3:08am

MASTODON Oblivion (Warner)
MASTODON Iron Tusk (Riot)
MASTODON Capillarian Crest (Warner)
MASTODON Colony Of Birchmen (Warner)
MASTODON Divinations (Warner)



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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 13:16
Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

I actually think of them as more of a post metal band. Play "Oceanic" by Isis and "Leviathan" back to back and you'll get where I'm coming from. 

No.  Just... no.

ISIS and Mastodon share a similar heavy tonality and sludgy tendencies, but Mastodon are not post metal.  Not remotely so.

I dunno. I wouldn't have noticed it either until I really payed attention to the riff at the chorus of "Naked Burn". The "saaave yourself" part. And then everything just started falling into place a bit. Plus, all the members will say that they count Neurosis as a huge influence so, I dunno, I'm not saying they ARE post-metal, I'm just saying that's what I hear them as. Approve


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