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Topic: Prog Randomness ThreadPosted By: Textbook
Subject: Prog Randomness Thread
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 06:51
A thread with no theme or topic, which is for odd little comments or observations relating to prog that don't warrant their own thread.
I just had to have a little chuckle at the review I just read that, reviewing In The Wake Of Evolution, commented that "Kaipa's sound cannot be found anywhere else in the music industry."
Replies: Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 07:08
Textbook wrote:
A thread with no theme or topic, which is for odd little comments or observations relating to prog that don't warrant their own thread.
I just had to have a little chuckle at the review I just read that, reviewing In The Wake Of Evolution, commented that "Kaipa's sound cannot be found anywhere else in the music industry."
Great music! There is a obviously Ronnie Stolt's sound and he is not even on the album! It's a original symphony rock sound that's got a little influence from other symphonic bands from the past.
------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.
Emile M. Cioran
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 14:30
Textbook wrote:
A thread with no theme or topic, which is for odd little comments or observations relating to prog that don't warrant their own thread.
I just had to have a little chuckle at the review I just read that, reviewing In The Wake Of Evolution, commented that "Kaipa's sound cannot be found anywhere else in the music industry."
That's like saying, as someones avatar here says, that Diana was alive just hours before she died. However, our friend is correct - Kaipa has a unique sound. It's just that many bands also have unique sounds. One often raised criticism on this site is that some artists sound like other artists. Neo-prog as a genre receives this frequently, and I can totally see that. I don't listen to a lot of Neo-prog, just Fish era Marillion and IQ, yet I cannot listen to them without hearing something immediately reminiscent of classic Genesis. Still, I like their music and listen to them frequently. My question is what qualities make Kaipa sound like no one else? Most of us can hear it, but how many of us can actually dissect the music to uncover what it is? I'll chalk it up to one of my old maxims: The meaning is not the message.
------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 14:50
Maybe the unique way that they combine classical, jazz, folk music with a swedish and scandinavian flavors...
------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.
Emile M. Cioran
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 14:54
Patriick Moraz's title track "Out In The Sun" is such a perky little number.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 21:17
This might be individual thread worthy. Are there actually less prog fans these days in relation to all the quantity of artists available over the span of prog, and yet a higher quantity of prog fans in the world now henceforth explaining why no one ever listens to prog these days? I'm working on a unified prog theory of my own. Yeah, it needs work.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 21:27
That is almost individual thread worthy... It could be titled: You Lost Me at "In Relation"
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 21:43
Do you mean, Slarti (I can call you Slarti, can't I?), that there are more prog artists than prog fans? Could this be the basis for the name Frogg Cafe - that they are Prog Fans who decided to become Prog artists?
------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 21:44
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 21:56
Progosopher wrote:
Do you mean, Slarti (I can call you Slarti, can't I?)
On a side note I have the screen name and a real name. Any variations on any of those are completely acceptable. Unless you spell Brian with a y, then I go completely nuts, track you down, and do mean things to you.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 21:58
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 22:07
Slarti: Kind of related to your earlier post, I am continually amazed at the number of prog acts that keep coming out of the woodwork because I thought that there were definitely not enough fans of prog to support them all, even in terms of only hearing their music, let alone buying it. It would be interesting to know how financially healthy/stable the lower tier prog acts are.
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 23:55
Slartibartfast wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
Do you mean, Slarti (I can call you Slarti, can't I?)
On a side note I have the screen name and a real name. Any variations on any of those are completely acceptable. Unless you spell Brian with a y, then I go completely nuts, track you down, and do mean things to you.
Brainy is out then?
------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 05:42
If Rush decided too do Bastille Day on the new tour Geddy Lee would sound very funny trying to sing it even if they did it a tone lower as they do with 2112, I kind of hope they do
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 05:52
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 22:43
^ Oh, I love Mellon Collie, particularly the second disc, but the whole album is wonderful. I think Billy Corgan even uses a mellotron on Siamese Dream. Semi-prog? I think so.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 22:45
I've been going on about how good Magazine are and I get no response. Am I the only person here who listens to them?
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 23:06
Who?
I've honestly never heard of them. What are they like?
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 03:58
They are a very, very good band who were not really prog (but were more accomplished/ambitious/artistic than others in their scene and influenced future prog artists) whose debut album Real Life frequently appears on best albums of all time lists. Despite that, they barely seem to have any reputation at all.
If you want to know more about them, I'm giving them a thread in the General Music Discussion section right now. Please check out this overlooked band who, though not prog, would in my opinion be of interest to proggers.
Posted By: krishl
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 14:35
It took me a lot of listens. Likewise, I only recently discovered post-rock. Some of it was immediately accessible (e.g., Red Sparowes and The Ascent of Everest), and some is still hard for me to get into (especially Godspeed You Black Emperor -- see I don't even know where the ! goes).
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 15:18
After the 'You' .
I've only listened to Can a few times, but it was it awesome.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 15:28
topographicbroadways wrote:
Is there any new word on Yes's new release that is apparently upcoming it's been mentioned afew times over the last few months
I think Yes should pack it in.
But here's my prog randomness comment. I think it's really cool that one of Ian Anderson's pastimes is reading spy novels. Jethro Tull even made the album Under Wraps based on this. Many people don't like it but I happen to really like it for that reason and tend to pay more attention to the lyrics rather than the music on that one. I gave it a 3 star rating and wrote a rather long review.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 17:27
All post-rock immeadiately struck me as an extremely interesting genre and I loved to listen to it.
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 23:59
Am I the only one who imagines how much funnier many thread titles here would be if "Prog" was changed to "Frog"?
For April Fool's, someone needs to make a mock FrogArchives front page, with reviews of various species, a list of 100 most popular frogs and various genre tabs (Archaeobatrachia, Mesobatrachia, Neobatrachia etc), a blog entry about whether toads should be included on the site etc and replace the real one with it for a few hours.
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 06:29
Heh...half the time I read it as "Frog" anyway, so I'm not sure as I'd notice.....
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 09:46
I've got to listen to Bowie's Heroes this weekend...
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 10:51
The Truth wrote:
I just listened to Signals today... They should do more stuff like that.
Signals is their least campiest album and probably the one Rush album I listen to most. The only other one I listen to just as much is Hemispheres mostly for La Villa
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 16:10
^ I seem to listen to Permanent Waves the most, then probably Moving Pictures.
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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 16:47
I noticed a few days ago that it's really not that hard to headbang to Meshuggah. Thomas Haake almost always drums in an even time signature like 4/4, while the guitars do something radical like 25/16 or something, and both eventually meet up after a couple of measures. You can headbang to the drums pretty easily and still end up following the rhythm of the guitars.
There. That's my random prog thought of the day
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 18 2010 at 11:44
Post flood additions to the collection: Black Mountain Black Mountain Black Mountain In The Future Amos, Tori Midwinter Graces King Crimson USA (30th Anniversary Edition) Holdsworth, Allan All Night Wrong Pekka Pohjola Keesojen Lehto (aka Mathematician's Air Display, The Consequences of Indecisions) Big Big Train English Boy Wonders Big Big Train Bard Big Big Train Gathering Speed Hackett, Steve Out Of The Tunnel's Mouth Big Big Train Underfall Yard, The Abercrombie, John and Ralph Towner Sargasso Sea Metheny, Pat New Chataqua Porcupine Tree We Lost The Skyline Big Big Train The Difference Machine Davis, Miles Big Fun Hassell, Jon Last night the moon came dropping its clothes on the street Kuhn, Joachim Springfever Bubu Anabelas Garbarek, Anja Smiling And Waving Gorishankar, The 2nd Hands Flood Tales From The Four Seasons Beck, Jeff Emotion & Commotion Stereolab Chemical Chords Monade Monstre Cosmic Prince Rainbow Children, The Rhodes, Happy Warpaint Rhodes, Happy Keep, The Ackerman, Will Hearing Voices Rhodes, Happy Many Worlds Are Born Tonight Gryphon Red Queen To Gryphon Three Hedges, Michael Watching My Life Go By Umphrey's McGee Summer Sampler 2010 Rhodes, Happy Building The Colossus Rhodes, Happy Find Me
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Posted By: Niv
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 07:56
Current list of bands PA has introduced to me that I've liked enough to get material from:
Blind Guardian Aspera Unitopia The Mars Volta Haken Karnataka Motorpsycho Demians IQ Karmakanic Anglagard Kaipa
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Posted By: daslaf
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 12:14
It would be interesting to have a topic about songs that talk about music, songs, instruments, etc...
------------- But now my branches suffer
And my leaves don't bear the glow
They did so long ago
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 16:03
Tried Haken- it's a decent album but I guarantee it won't be atop the list come the end of '10. It's too familiar and a bit overcooked.
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 07:06
rdtprog wrote:
Maybe the unique way that they combine classical, jazz, folk music with a swedish and scandinavian flavors...
If this is what you like, give a look to Wigwam and the great Pekka Pohjola.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
Posted By: Niv
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 08:38
Textbook wrote:
Tried Haken- it's a decent album but I guarantee it won't be atop the list come the end of '10. It's too familiar and a bit overcooked.
I love it, it hit me like a brick wall and blew me away completely. Whether it has lasting appeal however is something different entirely...
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 11:50
Hmm... There have been some awesome free albums that I've found.