How to get the 80's sound
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Topic: How to get the 80's sound
Posted By: TheCrimsonIdol
Subject: How to get the 80's sound
Date Posted: June 22 2010 at 08:31
I don't know if this should be posted in this part of the forum, so feel free to move it.
I play electric guitar, bass and have a programme called "EZ Drummer" to do the drum parts for me, I have recorded a few songs in the past, but I can never get the right sound that I want, I love the production on KISS albums like Crazy Nights and Lick it up, and some Motley Crue like Girls, Girls, Girls, does anyone know any effects I can add to songs to make my songs sound a bit like this, although, I do this from home so I do not have any professional equipment, only a Microphone and the programme Sonar.
So does anyone know of any effects I can put on the songs to make it sound very "80's"?
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 22 2010 at 11:21
Huge reverb on the drums, especially snare drum
With guitar sounds, you might find that if you use a little less distortion then you usually do, it will sound clearer and more fluid on the recordings
Also, quite essential to that era is a solidbody, humbucker-equipped guitar. Use the bridge pickup, as a very large percentage of hair metal guitarists used instruments in this style:
Note the Fender Stratocaster -shaped body, the Floyd Rose trem, the single high-output humbucker
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Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: June 22 2010 at 20:12
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: June 22 2010 at 20:47
Hey Thom, do you like progressive music?
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 02:15
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
Hey Thom, do you like progressive music? |
Why wouldn't he? What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Although I don't have any advice for you either. I don't play guitar.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 04:24
Have you tried jamming an ice pick in your ear? Just a joke, more seriously having a drum machine of sorts is probably a good start. Even more seriously, I recently got a pretty good multi-effects box for my guitar, experiment and have fun. There are no magical formulas for what you are trying to accomplish, but through experimentation you may get there.
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Posted By: TheCrimsonIdol
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 10:11
Yeah I like some prog, Genesis, Dream Theatre, Circus Maximus among others.
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 10:48
Henry Plainview wrote:
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
Hey Thom, do you like progressive music? |
Why wouldn't he? What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Although I don't have any advice for you either. I don't play guitar. |
Right. That was unappropriate.
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Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 13:12
I don't know. Garbage digital keyboards, too much reverb on everything, cheesy artificial sounding distortion, and get a bunch of poor musicians?
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 15:35
The thread starter was asking for technical tips on getting a particular sound. I dont think he asked to have the music he likes ridiculed. That isn't - or at least shouldn't be - in the spirit of these forums, regardless of what music is being discussed.
Anyway, Tom 'big drums' were often part of the 80's metal sound. I used to really love the album by this band. They were Zep copyists really, and got a lot of stick for it! It's a little over the top for me these days, and the Zep element is way too much!! But, check out the huge 80's drums on this track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJiVPt-KRQ - Kingdom Come
You do need a fair amount of reverb...
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Posted By: warrplayer
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 19:59
Get a Line-6 Pod for the guitar sounds. Lot's of 80's sounds. If that's too pricey they make a pocket pod too which you can probably pick up on Ebay for less than a hundred.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 20:25
Yeah, good tones aren't important for 80s sounds so you'll be fine with crappy digital modeling junk
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 20:28
Ah, that 80s sound... the last decade with a truly original flair. Beautiful stuff, but probably impossible to replicate unless you have the right mix of equipment (early digital processors, lovely digital synths and the magic formula used for gated drums).
Long live the 1980s!
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 20:40
Oh that Walter, what a funny guy
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 20:45
Captain Clutch wrote:
Oh that Walter, what a funny guy
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You think I'm kidding, yet the 1980s are truly the last decade that even tried.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 21:01
I don't think you're kidding, I think you're utterly delusional
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 21:03
Listen to the 80s, then listen to the 90s and 00s. Forward-looking originality, followed by staid nothingness.
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Posted By: warrplayer
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 21:09
Captain Clutch wrote:
Yeah, good tones aren't important for 80s sounds so you'll be fine with crappy digital modeling junk
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He's using a sound card and a microphone. You think any real amp is going to sound decent through that?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 21:12
Captain Clutch wrote:
Huge reverb on the drums, especially snare drum
With guitar sounds, you might find that if you use a little less distortion then you usually do, it will sound clearer and more fluid on the recordings
Also, quite essential to that era is a solidbody, humbucker-equipped guitar. Use the bridge pickup, as a very large percentage of hair metal guitarists used instruments in this style:
Note the Fender Stratocaster -shaped body, the Floyd Rose trem, the single high-output humbucker
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OK, I only see one guitar and the only effect would appear to be the finish on the guitar surface.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 22:15
^It was just a "title" sort of picture from some random website. I was having trouble finding good pictures of Charvels and Kramers and didn't feel like looking for a while. Is this better?
But, damn, that one doesn't have a Floyd or a Kahler, nobody would use that
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Posted By: mono
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 04:27
Drums: You can use the Pop Rock kit from EZ Drummer (or the DFH for more toms, but more EQing needed) with a high reverb on the snare, and some EQuing so that it sounds like a "blast". Good reverb on the whole kit, high hat bit higher than usual and overheads bit lower. Phat, borderline electronic bass drum with a short reverb.
Piano: old "Steinway-like" should do the trick.
Synths: Put SAW on everything
General effects: Chorus, (vocals, solo guitar). High reverb on guitars with a rather clean sound (the heavier the sound the harder it is to add reverb). 2 overdubbed guitars with little distortion is better than 1 heavy guitars (80's style...)
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Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 20:19
You mean like this tone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB2HglRPtbQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB2HglRPtbQ
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