Make Me Not Feel Bored by Rush
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Topic: Make Me Not Feel Bored by Rush
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Subject: Make Me Not Feel Bored by Rush
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 12:50
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Shrieking vocals, riffery, pounding drums... all tantamount to a sub-Led Zep, Rush has never done anything for me. Somehow or another, I've acquired seven albums by this band. Aside from the Police-tinged "Signals," none of them has struck me as even remotely remarkable. The less we say about the despicable philosophical basis for the lyrics, the better. So here's what I've bought over the years: Fly by Night 2112 A Farewell to Kings Signals Presto Roll the Bones Test for Echo Now, will somebody propose a way to approach these in a manner that will keep me from yawning and switching to Zappa or Crimson? |
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 12:54
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You're missing the best of them.
Of the ones you have, the only one I really like is Signals.
Moving Pictures is the album that got me into prog.
The Caress Of Steel is one of their early ones, and by far their most progressive
Permanent Waves is progressive but also has alot of catchy hooks into it.
Counterparts is their most underrated. No big epics and not much prog but its absolutely full of emotion and great songwriting.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:07
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Caress of Steel is my most liked Rush album. The shrieky vocals, say in "Bastille Day", are all part of the fun (I like that track's rockin' punkiness). Interesting you have those, but not Hemispheres (which is what got me into Rush). I rather like Fly by Night, but don't care for the others in the initial list. Do you have any Pavlov's Dog? Pampered Menial is a good album. I only mention it because Surkamp has a similar voice to Geddy Lee's, though I prefer Surkamp, and it might help to appreciate Lee's vocals. I don't like Rush as much as Zappa or Crimson myself, but I can still appreciate Rush for what it is. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:09
| I don't plan on spending on more Rush, though. The question is... what does it take to appreciate the stuff I've already got? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:13
Or you could sell them with a 30% percent discount, buy stuff that you really like of that money, and end up "on plus"!  EDIT: btw like COnor said your Rush collection is not really well oriented. I would only keep A Farewell To Kings from those and add Hemispheres, Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures. |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:13
An open approach?  ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:15
It either appeals or it doesn't. A new set of ears (ones that register different frequencies) or a brain transplant, maybe. There's no reason why you should like what you have that I'm aware of. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:28
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Just stick to Zappa and Crimson. ------------- 
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Posted By: CyberDiablo
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:34
Sell them on the eBay, then buy something better. 
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Posted By: Progist
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:37
I agree that a lot of Rush lyrics suck! But...if you can bear to, have a go at Permanent Waves. If you don't like it, I would give up on Rush completely 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:53
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Rush aren't that bad. They're not my personal preference for a band I'd like to hear more of but the two albums I've heard are not grating at all. I actually don't mind Geddy's voice now. They just don't make music that really does much for me, from what I've heard. So I'm not having a go at Rush, as Scott thought I would. -------------   
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:37
I can appreciate this post......cause I have no desire to own any Zappa at all. To your point Zappa ranks high on my list for the yawn factor.
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:39
Spending on more Rush. I'm afraid it's true. That three-album run from Hemispheres to Moving Pictures is definitive and somewhat mandatory for any Rush fan. I'd say you started in the wrong places.
EDIT: then again, if you truly did not like parts of AFTK, there may not be any help for you. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:39
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The thing is though, Zappa's work is different with every album. There's likely something for everyone in his discography.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:42
That's true. I do like Valley Girl.  -------------
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:07
| Stop spending money on them. I'm one of their biggest fans on the site, but if you don't get them - you don't get them. Simple enough. They're not avant like Zappa or evil like Crimson. Sounds like they're not your thing. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:08
A Farewell to Kings is the only one of these I really like, and even that is not nearly as great as Permanent Waves, Hemispheres or Moving Pictures. So I guess you should either get more of their albums or stick to Crimson and Zappa. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:12
Visting AFTK. The music is good standard issue prog, nothing special. But my, the vocals 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:18
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So if you don't like it, stop listening to it
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:21
| I like to finish the albums I choose to listen to. |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:24
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...Yeah, I would say get Moving Pictures. If you don't like anything from that, maybe you should stop listening to them, IMO. -------------  
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:28
 I peed my pants....my bad  -------------
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:36
So you're listening to music that you don't enjoy to throw an insult at Rush fans? Your own loss |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:37
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Sorry. I hope that you had a spare pair with you.
I get the not liking Geddy's singing. It was certainly an acquired taste for me, and he hits some notes on those early albums that still make me cringe, but for the most part I grew used to them and actually like them. In regards to not liking Neil's lyrics I am sort of clueless there, as for the most part I love his lyrics, aside from the notorious Dog Years. So from that standpoint I can't help you. It does seem to me that songs like The Spirit of Radio and Freewill should appeal to you (both are on Permanent Waves) but what the hell do I know. -------------
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:49
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Watching the Rush film the other day there were some very funny music critics desciptions of Geddy Lee's voice ,the best being 'like a cat being chased out of a room with a blow torch up its arse!!'
As a kid I was actually convinced that the lead singer was a woman and said as such to a keen Rush fan which didn't go down well.
Anwyay appreciating what you have? Convert every album into MP3 form and then play the tracks randomly mixed in with other bands you like. This worked for me in the case of Gentle Giant and Porcupine Tree. If not then just stop flogging a dead horse and get rid of them.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 19:15
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As I've recounted before, Rush is ironically how I found PA.
I actually did not like them when I first heard them (1979-80). They were in regular rotation on the AOR station here in Seattle. Then I eventually heard Limelight and bought Moving Pictures. As others have mentioned, it is a very good album, Geddy's voice -- which someone has described as Donald Duck on helium -- notwithstading.
That said, the tracks I heard from subsequent albums over the next 20 years didn't do much for me, though I started revisiting the band via the Retrospectives albums around five years ago. I subsequently bought Feedback and Snakes & Arrows, both of which are decent enough outings.
To my surprise Rush -- even the early tracks -- sound much better now that I'm well into my middle age. With all due respect to the band, who have progressed a long way from those early albums, I attribute this to three things: 1) my hearing ain't what it used to be; 2) Geddy's voice has calmed down a bit to my ears (see 1)); 3) they are still better that 90% of everything else that's out there.
I'm looking forward to their next studio album, but I'll be visiting PA looking for reviews before I buy it  ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 20:15
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Walter- Permanent Waves is the only Rush album I would ever intentionally listen to. Just sell all of yours and get that |
Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: June 11 2010 at 10:14
Listen to "Xanadu." Then listen to "Xanadu" again. Then listen to it again. And again. And again. And...
If that doesn't make you like Rush, then you have my pity. ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: jplanet
Date Posted: June 11 2010 at 11:04
Having seen your taste form other threads, I would have never have recommended any of these to you. I consider myself a big Rush fan, but like none of these albums (except for some of AFtK). I believe that Exit...Stage Left is the best example of Rush in their "prog" prime, a live album with great energy and inspired performances - includes fantastic renditions of Villa Strangiato, Xanadu, Jacob's Ladder...if these don't strike you in any way, then I'd move on. Sometimes it means it's either just not your thing, and sometimes it means it's just not your thing right now. There are plenty of albums that I disliked at first, then revisited years later to find they were just what I was looking for (Miles Davis and King Crimson were like this for me) ------------- https://www.facebook.com/ShadowCircus/" rel="nofollow - ..::welcome to the shadow circus::.. |
Posted By: mike hewetson
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 06:56
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hi, i recommend you get a copy of hemispheres,but as has been said,if you don"t get them,you probably won"t like hemispheres either! myself,i count it as one of my finest prog albums and they have never produced anything near it! but each to their own,we"ve all got our likes and dislikes.i actually stopped buying rush albums after grace under pressure,as their later work didn"t do it for me either! as i"m a musician myself,i understand the loss of ambition in writing capabilities when you get older! this is why so many top bands draw from their older songs when they play live-it"s often their best music. ------------- mike hewetson |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 07:43
A completely different taste in music?? You dont like them, so what? Moving Pictures is my favourite and I guess if you like Signals, you think MP is ok, but to be honest it;s hardly worth investing more money in band, who I really think you probably have the gist of by now. You've got albums from all their eras in your collection. You know what the Rush philosophy to making music is by now. They're not for everyone....same can be said for King Crimson and Zappa. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 14:20
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I'm still trying to make Fripp amazing for someone. As for the stuff you already have, there are options. Do another listen, sell it, toss it in the trash, or attempt to play Frisbee with the discs. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 15:50
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I don't really like them either. But Hemispheres was always there best to me. Definitely their most progressive. ------------- Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell? I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance. |
Posted By: esky
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 13:40
| Haven't we be down this road before? Collect A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Moving Pictures, Grace Under Pressure, Signals and then be happy and live a good life (sorry but Permanent Waves is a little too goofy for my liking). |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 13:46
| Walter, if you haven't already, you should start a "make me like post 1989 bands/artists" thread. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 13:48
Nothing. If you don't like it, move on. Maybe explore something written in the past 20 years oh wait |
Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 14:12
 An ear transplant!------------- http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112" rel="nofollow - http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112 Colt - Admin Team MMA 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 14:18
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Posted By: PopLies
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 15:18
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better taste in music? Just kidding. But if you have listened to all those albums and still don't like them at all, then the only suggestion would be to move on. |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 15:40
| YOU NEED CARESS OF STEEL! |
Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 17:48
| You bought the wrong albums. A Farewell to Kings and Signals are great, but as others have said, you really do need Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 17:53
I'd sooner buy every single Rush item than sully my collection with modern smut. |
Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 19:45
You can sell the ones you don't like on Ebay, buy another stuff. Just keep with the ones you liked, simple resolution. |
Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:20
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Your eyelids have grown heavy Like two bags of sand Your bones are made of lead You're sinking, sinking, sinking into a deep sleep When I count to three and snap my fingers, you will wake up and not feel bored by Rush. One Two Three "SNAP!"
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 01:19
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Let's try some advice here: Fly by Night Get rid of your zappa-esque sense of humour and learn to laugh with Geddy's shrieking yeahs! That's goofy humour for you! 2112 Rip to mp3 and just play the first 4 minutes and the last 2 of 2112 on constant repeat. If that doesn't get your air-guitar up then you're hopeless A Farewell to Kings Stick to Xanadu and don't bother with the rest of the album Signals Brilliant album. My favourite Rush, but that's not the prevailing opinion IMO. Presto Roll the Bones Test for Echo Try to sell them for a few beers. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 01:39
TREES TREES TREEEEEEEEEES |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 19 2010 at 12:19
Most prog is goofy....especially early prog stuff.  -------------
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: June 19 2010 at 17:14
Early prog stuff? Thanks for narrowing it down.
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: June 19 2010 at 19:02
| Like everyone else has said, you've grabbed the wrong albums. In your case I would suggest you might buy a live album. That's how I got into Rush. Or if you don't want a live album...at least buy the right Rush albums! The ones you have I would not suggest to anyone wanting to get into Rush! |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 15:30
Read the lyrics for the song 'Second Nature.' They make what would have otherwise been pretty boring song into a really emotional track.
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