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Topic: Best Frank Zappa album!!!!
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Subject: Best Frank Zappa album!!!!
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 01:55
Sorry I am a newbie to Zappa
 
I thought Id make a weird poll to match his weird sense of humour
 
i own 'Hot Rats' and love it
 
i have bits n pieces and a DVD called Zappa plays Zappa
 
I have a live one called 'Yellow Shark' and a weird live one from Mothers whose name escapes me.
 
But what should I purchase as a newbie to Zappa.?
 
i am serious here - which album should I get????


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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 02:11
The other live one, referring to Roxy & Elsewhere.

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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 02:14
Typical recs for newbies:

Apostrophe/Over-nite Sensation (twofer)
Roxy & Elsewhere
One Size Fits All

My recs:

Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention
Make a Jazz Noise Here


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 02:29
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Typical recs for newbies:

Apostrophe/Over-nite Sensation (twofer)
Roxy & Elsewhere
One Size Fits All

My recs:

Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention
Make a Jazz Noise Here
REALLY? Ok noted and logged - I can trust a Zappa fan.
 
Funny choices for the poll I noticed already LOL


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Posted By: mdelval
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 08:37
the one that fits them all


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 08:43
Well Scott, I'm starting at the beginning and going chronological.  It would seem that with an important artist like this, best to go in order to enjoy the progression as it happened. 

And besides, Freak Out is fabulous!Big smile


Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 09:45
If you liked Hot Rats, the next logical step would be to go get Waka / Jawaka and The Grand Wazoo.

Also, you might want to take a look at this:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67436&PN=1


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 09:47
Zappa in NY or Make a Jazz Noise Here.

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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 09:49

Studio Tan. ''The Adventures of Greggery Peccary'' is his finest work in my opinion.



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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 09:55
Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Studio Tan. ''The Adventures of Greggery Peccary'' is his finest work in my opinion.



Or, pay a little bit more and get Lather. I think there's something for everyone on that record, including "Greggery Peccary"!


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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 09:55
Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Studio Tan. ''The Adventures of Greggery Peccary'' is his finest work in my opinion.



lolololol

Don't blow your cash on Studio Tan, Orchestral Favorites or Sleep Dirt: get the Lather triple album instead.

Zappa in New York is for the most part found on the Lather set, but the consistency of that live set makes it worth owning on its own.


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 10:11
One Size Fits All is incredible and my favourite.


Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 10:15
the weird one,followed by the one with the jazz bits and the one with no lyrics.

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Posted By: CyberDiablo
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 12:10
He has so many freakin' albums. Smile


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 12:18
If you want one that has a good overview of this material and funny cover song, I always recommend The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life.Big smile  Covers include Stairway To Heaven and Purple Haze, Gabby Hays, Willy Mays....Tongue

If you want to go DVD, it's gotta be Baby Snakes.


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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 12:32
One Size Fits All
Over Nite Sensation
Sheik Yerbouti
Bongo Fury
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol 2
 
All great accessible albums, ideal for Zappa newbies 


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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 14:14
That one is the best and the one you should get.

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 14:43
I've been getting into Zappa lately myself, and my 3 favorites are Absolutely Free, We're Only In It For The Money, and Over-Nite Sensation. One Size Fits All is probably his "proggiest", but it's not one of my favorites. 

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 15:45
ESSENTIALS:
 
From the Jazz Rock period: The Grand Wazoo and Sleep Dirt
From the early Mothers: Uncle Meat and Burnt Weeny Sandwich
From the mid-70's: Roxy & Elsewhere, Zappa in New York, One Size Fits All and Over-Nite Sensation.
Later stuff: Jazz From Hell, The Yellow Shark and Shut Up N' Play Yer Guitar Some More
 


Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 22:49
   Bongo Fury --  Sleep Dirt  --  Zoot Allures --  Joe's Garage & Sheik Yarbouti ///

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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 09 2010 at 10:36
wow there is some consistency here with One Size Fits All and Zappa in NY, Roxy and Elsewhere and Grand Wazoo
 
i must get those first i think
 
thx for al lsuggestions.


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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 06:23
OK I did get Apostrophe and I liked it but One Size Fits All is definitive prog and I loved that. Roxy and Elsewhere is difficult to get but I am hunting down Were only in it for the money and Freak Out. Great albums I believe.

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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 11:30
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

OK I did get Apostrophe and I liked it but One Size Fits All is definitive prog and I loved that. Roxy and Elsewhere is difficult to get but I am hunting down Were only in it for the money and Freak Out. Great albums I believe.


Did you try amazon or ebay?


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 11:55
i think Make A Jazz Noise Here and Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life should be your next purchases if youre enjoying the 72-76 era (OSFA, ('), R&E, ZNY, TGW, Waka-Jawaka, etc...)

Lather should also be purchased, all those 70s albums kinda lead up to Lather (which i think was originally supposed to be released in 77?) and is the exclamation point of his 72-76 era


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 11:55
Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

OK I did get Apostrophe and I liked it but One Size Fits All is definitive prog and I loved that. Roxy and Elsewhere is difficult to get but I am hunting down Were only in it for the money and Freak Out. Great albums I believe.


Did you try amazon or ebay?


This... http://www.amazon.com/Roxy-Elsewhere-Frank-Zappa-Mothers/dp/B0000009SK - http://www.amazon.com/Roxy-Elsewhere-Frank-Zappa-Mothers/dp/B0000009SK

8 bucks.


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 13:54
I'd go with Joe's Garage. You get humor,a storyline and serious guitar work. Watermelon in easter hay is likely one of his best solo guitar pieces.


Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 20 2010 at 14:05
^

While that a great one, I don't know if its the best place for a newbie to start. If they can handle the bawdy humour aspect, then it is definitely essential.


Posted By: MHenry
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 15:37
Buy every freakin' one of them.

Most accessible for newbies:
Overnight Sensation
Joe's Garage
Apostrophe

Don't miss:
We're only in it for the Money
Waka Jawaka
Lumpy Gravy
Freak Out


Posted By: Fred.H
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 18:16
Generally I like all of them but especially his debut albums like the first 3.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 19:46
I like the option "the one that has all the jazzy bits", but I have to go with "the other live album", which for me would be The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life. LOL

I'd have to guess you haven't heard that one yet.


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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 20:46
1973 Over-Nite Sensation , love the music, dislike the woman singing.

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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 20:49
The jazzy one...Hot Rats.

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Posted By: Majikthise
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 23:32

Hot Rats isn't the jazzy one dude.

I have to go for Apostrophe. It's the first one I heard and it's brilliant. I also love Over Nite Sensation, Hot Rats, Grand Wazoo and Sheik Yerbouti. 

I hate Uncle Meat and don't have much time for Burnt Weeny Sandwich. 

One Size Fits All has Po'Jama People, which is a tie for my favourite Zappa song (along with Uncle Remus), but the rest of the album isn't nearly as good.



Posted By: meric
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 01:07
Hot rats
Zoot allures
Freak Out


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 16:12
Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:

Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Studio Tan. ''The Adventures of Greggery Peccary'' is his finest work in my opinion.



Or, pay a little bit more and get Lather. I think there's something for everyone on that record, including "Greggery Peccary"!
Agreed - Lather is a one size fits all compendium of Zappa's early to mid 70s phase, nearly all killer and precious little filler. The chopped up sections that came out as In NY, Studio Tan, Orchestral Favourites and Sleep Dirt are all well and good, but it all makes a lot more sense as Zappa originally intended for it to be released.  


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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 16:21
Overnite Sensations
Hot Rats
Grand Wazoo
Apostrophe
Zappa In NY



Posted By: Capt Fongsby
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 18:59
My top three Zappa are pretty much set in stone:
  1. Apostrophe (')
  2. One Size Fits All
  3. Roxy & Elsewhere

Then it varies with time/mood, but the ones I like best of the rest are:
  • Hot Rats
  • Over-nite Sensation
  • Zoot Allures
  • The Grand Wazoo
  • Joe's Garage
  • Sleep Dirt
  • Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar




Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 20:55
One Size Fits All
Hot Rats
The Grand Wazoo
Uncle Meat
Roxy And Elsewhere
Joe's Garage



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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 21:03
Everything but the compilation.

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 02 2012 at 08:39
Joe's Garage


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 02 2012 at 09:18
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Joe's Garage

The best of course of all the worst: Thingfish!


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