is prog prog ?
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Topic: is prog prog ?
Posted By: garrry the pirrrate
Subject: is prog prog ?
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 01:29
| I think, therefore I think I am, therefore is prog, prog ? |
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 01:32
| Cheese is green on wednessdays, but I've never seen a plain fly in the gutter because of the lack of cola in the stomach of a beatle. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 02:29
| My brain hurts. |
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 04:15
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Posted By: TheOppenheimer
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 05:00
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if you think that prog is prog, you're making this prog exist, therefore, making this prog be prog, as you make this whole reasoning exist. its simple, think of it = make it exist
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 05:36
| no..........no......... m..mister prog...................he no here |
Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 05:45
I'm afraid I must disagree with you, sir!  P1: All people who sing are musicians P2: Justin Bieber sings C1: Therefore, Justin Bieber is a musician P3: Justin Bieber is not music P4: People who do not make music are not musicians C2: Therefore, Justin Bieber is not a musician P5: At least one of these is true: Justin Bieber is a musician, or prog is hip-hop C3: Justin Bieber is not a musician, therefore prog is hip-hop P6: Prog is not hip-hop C4: Therefore, prog is not prog. =F= ------------- "You must go beyond the limit of the limit of your limits!" - Mr. Doctor "It is our duty as men and women to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 06:09
^ P1, P2, P3 are questionable and P5 is just silly. 
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Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 06:24
It's called the "principle of explosion", and this whole thread is silly  =F= ------------- "You must go beyond the limit of the limit of your limits!" - Mr. Doctor "It is our duty as men and women to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
Vompatti wrote:Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 06:26
I beg to differ! 
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 07:06
I think prog all the time, some i am prog, Prog is me, in me, and so is prog...
------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 07:18
| Prog postulates the leadership next to a pocket. When can a damned button roll beside prog? A neutral cynic tables prog. Prog herds the narrative within the laid paragraph. Prog expresses the ringed universal above another enterprise. Thinking imprisons a blob opposite a vendor. Does thinking allocate a rested boot? Prog specializes thinking. Prog rocks below thinking. Prog busts the evolutionary skill past the spontaneous oxygen. The injured individual camps next to a tile. Thinking shakes the ram into the unsafe singer. How will the south mill sand prog? Prog misrepresents an insane goodbye above my skill. An alternative dances over a reign. Prog beards the threat against a lens. Thinking talks to prog opposite the indicative killer. Thinking cooperates behind the sandwich. The performing table pauses. When will thinking smile outside prog? Does thinking kid outside prog? Across thinking pretends the imposed coach. Prog boosts whatever cleaner over a steep theology. |
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 08:41
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Who the hell is prog? ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/"> 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 08:57
| A friend of General Polls? |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 08:59
| Frog is Prog with an F, so actualy Prog rock is falce its actualy Frog Rock, only less Rock more prince then Frog Prince, Prog Prince, Prince is Prog. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 11:43
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Prog is not prog. Prog means progressive. But when you listen to prog, it tends to end after the song's over, therefore, it can't really progress. Actual prog music would never end and run continuously, you know, progressing. ------------- 
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 11:55
Instead of that "S" at the top it needs to say "Progressive" ... oooppppsss ... "Prog" ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 12:19
Somebody told me, perhaps in my dreams, that Mr. Prog is the near friend of this other MR...  who knows... ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/">
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 12:24
^ OMG MY NEPHEW LOVES HIM!11111!!! 
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 12:27
I don't know, what do you think? Of course prog is prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 12:32
| Is it so hard to imagine that there could be entities not identical with themselves? Consider infinite (boundless) entities. Unless we can give a rigid definition for prog, there is no reason to assume that the first "prog" in "prog is prog" is exactly the same as the second "prog" - in fact there's no way it could be. |
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 13:21
Well, I am 35 years old and I love him. ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/">
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 14:43
| Quantum mechanics says that things exist only because there are observers observing them (i.e. in our scope of discussion, "prog exists only because there are proggers listening to it"). |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 14:48
| There's a joke about Berkeley's death that would fit here, but I've forgotten how it went. |
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 15:17
Prog is not a science, and too much science takes your brain down sometimes... Prog is appreciated with senses. ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/">
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Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 18:37
No, Magma is frog rock  ------------- "You must go beyond the limit of the limit of your limits!" - Mr. Doctor "It is our duty as men and women to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 21:14
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How can there be prog? We technically have no proof that we even exist as physical beings. We may be a brain, floating in a vat being shown images and sensations we take to be real. I mean ho do you know for an absolute fact that's not the case? |
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 21:17
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Just because it's good doesn't mean it's prog.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 23:07
are we talking about 'prog' or 'progressive prog' ?  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 01:25
As does this frog prog? uuuuhh?  ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/">
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 03:33
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Magma is CRAP.
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 10:35
No...apparently, its a sub-genre of rock, which isn't a sub-genre of jazz-rock, even though it's a sub-genre of fusion.
So I've been told.  ------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..." |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 10:47
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Oh no, you got it all wrong! What I said was that prog is a subgenre of rock, and jazz-rock is a fusion of jazz and rock, and therefore neither a subgenre of rock nor a subgenre of jazz. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 10:58
Please, go to Hell, you Atlantean chauvinist imperialist wombat. MAGMA has always been, is and always will be the best band in the whole universe. Or, so Vander said... |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 11:14
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I'm neither chauvinist nor imperialist, for I like exotic women! And I think we all know that the best band in the whole universe is The Stooges. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 13:21
------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 13:48
Well, I must discuss it. Think that Mötorhead prog universe has risen all us with his marvellous vocals along the 20th century. Symphonic Stooges are overrated, in my humble opinion of course.  ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/">
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 13:52
SYMPHONIC Stooges?! They're RIO, not symph. |
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 15:42
I think both of us are wrong, look what Wikipedia tells... The StoogesFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaNot to be confused with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Stooges - The Three Stooges .
The Stooges (also known as Iggy and The Stooges) is an American http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_band - ZEUHL band from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor - Ann Arbor , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan - Michigan first active from 1967 to 1974, and later reformed in 2003. Although they sold few records in their original incarnation and often performed for indifferent or hostile audiences, the Stooges are widely regarded as instrumental in the rise of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock - progressive rock , ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/">
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 16:03
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Actually, now that I think about it, Fun House is quite progressive. Either Proto-Prog or Heavy Prog, I think. Although "We Will Fall" on the debut album is definitely Psychedelic/Space Rock. Or possibly Raga Rock. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 20:01
Or vice versa! ... don't forget that! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: June 04 2010 at 06:52
=F= ------------- "You must go beyond the limit of the limit of your limits!" - Mr. Doctor "It is our duty as men and women to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 05:12
When linguistically coded the same way, as is the case with prog and prog (the exact same string of phonemes) - yes - it would be hard to imagine. Also, it's difficult to talk of prog as an 'entity' - it's rather a category.
There is every reason to assume it's the same. What (besides far-fetch speculation and out of place sense-making) would make you assume otherwise? It's obvious that the referential range for prog is rather big, and that it can refer to many (more or less distinct) styles of music. But. Within the scope of traditional philosophy of language - I'd say that the sentence 'prog is prog' is analytically true. It's a tautology and always true by virtue of word meaning and without having to refer to the facts of the world. In contrast, a sentence like 'Ian Anderson plays the flute' is synthetic and true because it accords with the facts of the world. So, prog IS prog.
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 06:02
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Can we define a blotch by saying it’s identical with its own shape? That would be intellectual laziness since we can’t understand the meaning of "blotch" without having a notion of its negation, the "non-blotch" (it’s the same with "rabbit", of course), or, to use a more accurate term, the "hctolb" ("tibbar" etc.). Thus the negation of the meaning is a crucial part of the meaning itself. Talking about prog, gorp is both in the core and the margins of our understanding of the phenonema. In other words: Prog is and is not prog, because it is also gorp, the very opposite of prog. I hope this clears things up. Cheers! Jaques Derrida (I’m dead, but I won’t lie down) ------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 06:39
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Another highly relevant question: Is Garry a Pirrate? I have a friend whose last name is Parrott. That doesn’t make him a parrot, though he looks like a pirate. What is a Pirrate anyway? Maybe it means someone using a hit-and-run tactic: Log on, write one post, then beat it. Yeah, I think I’ll go for that definition. A new word in my vocabulary!
------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 07:07
To account for the notion 'meaning' in terms of antonyms is an oversimplified structuralist account. A structuralist account of meaning has provided many theorists with considerable headaches. (suggested reading: Quine, Willard: The problem of meaning in linguistics in From a logical point of view (2nd ed.; Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1961)). Today, a structuralist account of meaning is generally considered meaningless. What's the opposite (antonym) of a rabbit? I hope this helps to obscure things further.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 07:10
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Not really, however it is prog.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 09:11
Sorry if I confused you. Like most posters here I wasn’t serious at all. Then again, if you actually understood that I was joking, sorry for "misunderrating" you.  ------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 09:54
| I was aware that you were joking... no offence taken for being misunderrated. But really - everything in this post modern world is serious - if you want it to be. |
Posted By: TwoOneOneTwo
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 10:32
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The Progs... Didn't they do that song Wild Thing?
In that case, no the progs are not prog.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 10:36
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Seriusly im not serius, but prog is great music, great music is not boring, everyone here listen to prog music, everyone here seems to be bored, so prog is not prog. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: garrry the pirrrate
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 22:18
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it's Not a hit and run tactic at all, although I may just be making a 2nd post just to disprove your theory -such that it is.
In that case you may have to potentially make up a new defination for someone who signs up, logs on makes one post, then only makes another post when someone accuses them of signing up, logging on and only making one post.
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Posted By: garrry the pirrrate
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 22:20
| No that was the Troggs, world famous for creating "Trogg rock" |
Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 05:09
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Sorry, Garry, I didn’t expect you to return. Welcome to the forums! EDIT: I just realised that I’ve said sorry three times in this thread already. Apparently it’s not the hardest word after all. ------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |