Short Songs in Prog
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Topic: Short Songs in Prog
Posted By: Anthony H.
Subject: Short Songs in Prog
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 21:55
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What are some short prog songs that stand out as particularly good? Do you think it's harder to make short songs progressive than long ones? Gentle Giant's "Octopus" is a perfect example of short prog songs. None of the songs reach the six-minute park, but the album is undoubtedly a progressive classic. |
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Posted By: squirting
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 22:16
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Harold The Barrel <3
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Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 23:34
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"Tango" from the fusion band "Fulano" is really short also "Fana papal y smegma nazzi" of "Akineton Retard" is very short too xD
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Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 23:35
| Fana papal y smegma nazi is only 40 sec long :D and is really proggy for that amount of time |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 00:01
| Yes "Five percent for nothing" (0:35) and "Long Distance Runaround" (3:33) are good examples as well. |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 00:03
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LDR is actually my favorite Yes song.
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Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 00:31
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Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 00:49
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Genesis is the obvious answer for this. The big one is, of course, Can-Utility and the Coastliners, which packs a whole lot of prog into a short amount of time. Then there's The Lamb: 23 songs, only 3 of which are longer than 6 minutes. Yet one of the top rated albums on the site, by one of the indisputable masters of prog. Not to mention later stuff like Dance On A Volcano and Blood On The Rooftops, both of which are under 6 minutes. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 00:50
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ELP - Brain Salad Surgery (the track not the album) .
Muse - Thoughts of a Dying Atheist
Renaissance - Northern Lights
..three short tracks off the top of my head that are full of proggy goodness
I'm sure its possible to come up with a long list of good short prog tracks. They are'nt that unusual.
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Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 01:07
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ELP - "A time and a place"
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 01:33
| Kayak made most of my favorite short prog-tracks. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 02:17
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Hi,
I have a lot of bands that have shorter trax, and one like Kayak is pretty darn good example.
But generally, if the band is mostly into the "prog" thing instead of its own expression and work, I tend to go out of it pretty quick. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 14:27
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^ indeed Royal Bed Bouncer, If This Is Your Welcome, Chance Of A Lifetime. What about Rush circa 1980 - 1984? Lots of great short tracks on the four albums they released in that time:The Spirit Of Radio
Freewill
Tom Sawyer
YYZ
Limelight
Red Barchetta
Subdivisions
The Analog Kid
Distant Early Warning
Red Sector A
etc
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Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 15:20
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Hatfield and the North have more than a couple short songs. Some do not exceed the 30 second mark. Some personal favorite short songs of mine include Aerosol Grey Machine and Bow Tie Daddy, both no longer than a minute.
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Posted By: Wiktor Hatif
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 16:03
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Queen "The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke" - the proggiest two and a half minute on the whole "Queen II" album also "Pyramania" by Alan Parsons Project |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 22:08
| I like very much Wait for Sleep by Dream Theater. However, usually I like songs longer, there's more room to develop the music and make it greater. But it's not a requisit, it's better to make the song short if it is a good song and doesn't have enough ideas to make it longer. Moonchild for me is a good example of this, if it stayed within the first 3 or 4 minutes it would be a very nice song. As it is, most people find it utterly boring (though some people do like it). For me Take a Pebble, without the long middle section, would be better (but surely there are many many people who do like it just the way it is and would think that what I'm saying is blasphemy). |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 23:08
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Pigs on the Wing lol
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 23:45
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Wiktor Hatif wrote:Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 23:50
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 23:52
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Pink Floyd's The Wall is also a good example of prog double album in which nearly all songs are under the 5 min mark.
Even the elaborated The Trial is just over 5 minutes long.
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Posted By: AbrahamSapien
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 00:03
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Proto prog: Purple's Firebal; Prog Related: Queen's Bring Back That Leroy Brown; I love these tunes!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Propu
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 15:54
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The Gourishankar - Taste A Cake 1:46 Shadow Gallery - Lamentia 1:04 Ayreon - Day Seven: Hope 2:47 Jethro Tull - A Passion Play 45:06 |
Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 23:38
| The Beatles "Her Majesty" |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 01:50
+1 ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 02:29
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Are talkin', like..."Grace" and "Cheerio" short? Because if so, Tull's got some good ones...uh..."Cheap Day Return" and "Nursie," for example.
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 02:43
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Posted By: Silverbeard McStarr
Date Posted: June 03 2010 at 16:00
| Dark Side of the Moon has one seven-minute track, and two six-minute tracks. Other than that, the songs are fairly short. |
Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: June 05 2010 at 05:45
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The Queen - Gentle Giant Cheap Day Return - Jethro Tull Rhayader - Camel Love to Love You - Caravan These are off the top of my head, I can come up with heaps more... ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 00:11
| There are so many of them. Aqualung and Locomotive Breath come to mind, especially the former. Lots of Genesis and Gentle Giant has been mentioned. The Red album has the amazing title track and One More Red Nightmare. Trees by Rush. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 00:25
| "Book of Saturday" (Fripp, Wetton, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Palmer-James - Richard Palmer-James ) – 2:49 |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 02:17
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The wall PF has short tracks and they are all great
But i think theres some great short tracks by Rush - such as Closer to the Heart
or even Farewell to Kings.
ELP did some awesome stuff in a short period on 'Tarkus' album apart from the epic.
and of course short bits on Jethro Tulls first albums such as Stand Up, Benefit and Aqualung.
So many trackds I can think of by Dream theater that are short from Awake, and Metropolis 2.... and Octavarium. ------------- 
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 09:14
so right i love that track haha -------------  
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 09:19
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Cadence and Cascade - King Crimson Sweet Dreams - Yes Bitches Crystal - ELP The Sheriff - ELP The Vultures Fly High - Renaissance -------------
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 09:20
reeeeeally?????? lol what a closer for an album that was -------------
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 14:44
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Camel's Supertwister has more proggy goodness in three and a half minutes than most twenty minute epics. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 15:52
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Time Table - Genesis Gioco di Bimba - Le Orme Felona - Le Orme En Pleine Face - Harmonium |
Posted By: Wiktor Hatif
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 16:28
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oh, oh, and Camel's "Aristillus" - I've always loved it though it hurts my ears :)
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 16:48
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when i first heard Van Der Graaf Generator's album Pawn Hearts-a Canadian lp copy, in between the two main tracks on side one, was a short, completely instrumental track, could not have been more than two minutes long, but i remember it had some totally awesome sax in it, and it blew me away-i felt that it was the best thing on the whole record i have not had that lp for a long time, and on a Cd copy of Pawn Hearts i bought years later, this track did not even exist-cannot remember the name of it, but it was great |
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 17:16
It's "Theme One." I actually have the U.S./Canadian LP with that song in between "Lemmings" and "Man-Erg." It's a nice and catchy song, but very out-of-place. It was composed by George Martin (yes, that George Martin) rather than any of the band members, and it shows. I'm glad that the CD version I have moved it over to the bonus tracks. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 01:24
Yep was the Radio One theme songespecially composed for their launch (in 1967?). I remember seeing VDGG performing this on The Beat Club.Good stuff.
btw other artists who have covered Theme One include Nick Magnus (included on Inhaling Green) and Cozy Powell (ones that I know of anyway)
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Posted By: Raredrumd
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 07:11
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Just the first 5 to pop into my mind... 1. Rush's 'Closer to the Heart.' 2. Dream Theater's 'Surrounded.' 3. Dream Theater's 'Wait for Sleep.' 4. Rush's 'Carve Away the Stone.' 5. Rush's 'Cinderella Man.' Wow, it looks like I'm only based on two bands. I just chose the first 5 that came into my mind... haha. Sorry. :) |
Posted By: mckramin
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:34
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Two that come to mind right away for me are: Gentle Giant - Cogs In Cogs Echolyn - The Wiblet Both of those are amazing short complex pieces |
Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:38
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Magma- Wurdah Itah
Jan Dukes de Grey- Sorcerers
Jethro Tull- Benefit
Captain Beefheart- Trout Mask Replica
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Posted By: Pete A.
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 01:15
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"In The Mystery" from Allan Holdsworth's "Metal Fatigue" LP. (3:49) Also contains a short, jaw dropping Holdsworth solo!! There are many brilliantly short compositions to be found on most Lars Hollmer records, too. ------------- Petey |
Posted By: XunknownX
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 03:41
| Yes: Five per cent for nothing.: 0:35 |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 03:57
To mention a few in random order (< 5 minutes):
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Posted By: dantd95
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 06:13
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Magma - Malaria Magma - Lihns Magma - Weidorje Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway KC - Elephant Talk, also Cat Food The Mars Volta have many too. |
Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: August 09 2010 at 04:54
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pink floyd - eclipse pink floyd - pigs on the wing pink floyd - get your filthy hand of my desert pink floyd - is there anybody out there |
Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: August 09 2010 at 13:31
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Short as in two minuets? Or as in "not ten minuets"? Anyway, I'll go with "After the Ordeal" ------------- 
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: August 09 2010 at 14:21
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wot gorilla? ------------- assume the power 1586/14.3 |
Posted By: LateralMe
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 20:48
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King Crimson- Book of Saturday
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Posted By: Mushroom Sword
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 21:36
| Closer To the Heart |
Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 03:08
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Band - Year - Album - Song - Duration Pink Floyd - 1973 - Dark Side Of The Moon - Eclipse - 2:00 Genesis - 1974 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Hairless Heart - 2:10 Yes - 1971 - Fragile - The Fish - 2:42 Genesis - 1974 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Fly on a Windshield - 2:45 Genesis - 1974 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging - 2:46 King Crimson - 1973 - Larks' Tongues in Aspic - Book of Saturday - 2:56 Gentle Giant - 1972 - Three Friends - Three Friends - 2:58 Genesis - 1971 - Nursery Cryme - Harold the Barrel - 3:00 Camel - 1975 - The Snow Goose -Rhayader - 3:01 Focus - 1972 - Moving Waves - Janis - 3:08 ELP - 1972 - Trilogy - Living Sin - 3:14 Genesis - 1974 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Anyway - 3:17 ------------- Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout. |
Posted By: frantic
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 05:00
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there are many good songs that i can't get enough in Porcupine Tree' s Incident album, like Great Expactations etc. ------------- hunger for more prog can never be quenched. |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 05:28
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Yes: We Have Heaven National Health: Phlakaton Beggar's Opera: Memory Kevin Ayers: Two Goes Into Four Robert Wyatt: Stalin Wasn't Stallin' Pavlov's Dog: She Came Shining |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 16:26
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Most of Frank Zappa's Apostrophe(') album is under 5 minutes and all of it is very good stuff. -------------  |
Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 18:08
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Everything off of Cressida's first album. No song reaches the 5:30 mark, and all of them are perfect. Also, Klaatu's 3:47 E.S.T. Doctor Marvello, Anus of Uranus, and Sub Rosa Subway are all pure, impeccable pop/prog. ------------- Certified Obscure Prog Fart. http://scottjcouturier.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - The Loose Palace of Exile - My first novel, The Mask of Tamrel, now available on Amazon and Kindle |
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 18:27
True for Great Expectations. I would really like to see Wilson take that song fraqment and do something more with it. A great song in waiting, that one. Which reminds me...Trains basically has all the elements and themes and construction of a long prog epic, but all packed into 7 minutes. ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 07:49
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GG-Cogs in Cogs GG-Just the same Jethro Tull-Cross Eyed Mary IQ-You Never Will Genesis-Fly on a Windshield Genesis-It Rush-Freewill King Crimson-Elephant Talk To list a few.
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Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: August 14 2011 at 19:58
| Cynic...about everything. |