U.K. or Danger Money?
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Topic: U.K. or Danger Money?
Posted By: zachfive
Subject: U.K. or Danger Money?
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 16:17
| Both are great but find myself liking Danger Money a bit more, which I was surprised by seeing how much I enjoy Bruford and all his works. Just curious to see what others thought. |
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 16:30
| Debut is better for me, but both are great. |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 16:39
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To me, it's easy to prefer the first one, who's a great masterpiece!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 17:11
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UK UK, because you could pronounce it ook ook. Danger Money wasn't bad, though no Holdsworth. Bozzio did well in the band as a Bruford replacement. I really like the live album, too and indeed got to see that lineup opening up for Jethro.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 17:12
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I prefer Danger Money, but only just. I think that DM has better songs, although the instrumental passages on the debut are stunning. I also think that Allan Holdsworth is oddly under used on the debut; Danger Money just feels more coherent somehow. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 17:19
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THe first album without a doubt -------------  |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 18:20
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"Danger Money" for me - the title track, "Rendez-vous 6:02" and "Carrying No Cross" are outstanding. None of the songs from UK debut is equally strong or even close. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 20:01
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I'm a Symphonic fan, so I have to go with "Danger Money", if I was a Fusion aficionado, I would go with the debut. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 22:12
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I always love debut album. My favorite tune is "Mental Medication". |
Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 23:29
I agree! And like I said I was surprised that I liked Danger Money more, because I am such a huge fan of One of a Kind and Feels Good to Me, both albums in which Holdsworth excels. Also agree that Bozzio steps up to the plate quite well, and it would be big shoes for any drummer to follow Bruford, but he delivers an equal performance.
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Syzygy wrote:Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 23:30
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For sure "Danger Money" for me. I don't like their debut album too much...
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 23:33
| Hard call. Its almost like asking someone to pick between, say, two King Crimson albums featuring radically different line-ups. I'm going to let the debut edge out Danger Money, but just barely. |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 05:37
| A tough choice. UK I think because I miss Holdsworth on Danger Money. Bruford was also gone but as great as he is, and I preffer his playing over Bozzio, he was replaced by a technically superior player. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 06:23
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I like U.K. and I love Danger Money. The latter is one of my all-time favourite albums. ------------- 
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 07:41
| Danger Money without hesitation, one of my fav albums ever aswell . I simply love this album to the max, great stuff. |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 07:54
| Danger Money is better IMHO. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 12:35
| U.K debut for me. Great album and great lineup. |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 10:21
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It's very close (not only in results but also in my heart). I prefer the debut by a very small gap. ------------- omri |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 20:10
| Oh man, it's way to hard to decide. I love them both and find them both essential for different reasons. The only regret I have about UK is that they didn't make another 20 albums. I love the debut album for the free style feel and I love Danger Money for the concise feel. I'm sorry, but I can't vote here, they are both amazing albums. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 20:43
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UK I enjoy Danger Money, which is certainly a strong album, just their debut is probably the definition of sublime. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 02:44
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I love both but I prefer Danger Money. As Ivan said, this is the more symphonic of the two and the absence of Holdsworth gives Jobson even more room to shine, and prove just what a phenomenal keyboard player he is.
Also, Bozzio's contribution is stunning. I prefer him to Bruford easily.
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 18:45
| The debut. Holdsworth's subtlety is the difference. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 05:33
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Missed this first version. Danger Monet. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 05:34
^^Beware....deranged impressionist! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:09
| I prefer their first album, mostly because of Alan Holdsworth's guitar playing. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:13
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The first album for me, the second one is certainly weaker. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:17
It certainly isn't. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:23
 ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:25
No. It's fact. It is not weaker. You may not like it as much. But that doesn't mean it's weaker.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:33
You´ve probably overlooked the phrase "for me". ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:38
I thought the "for me" applied to the first album rather than the second. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 11:44
Very difficult choice. I'm crazy about Danger Money's title track, Rendez-Vous 6:02 and Carrying No Cross: I think they are pretty sensational. I think the rest of the album is good, but not as good as the three tracks I mentioned. When I heard Danger Money for the first time, I was completely floored by it from the first, powerful, complex chords on. That was an amazing experience. Come to think of it, I was just beginning to buy prog albums, and I bought a cassette of Danger Money, Genesis' Foxtrot and Alan Parsons' debut in one buy for 10 Dutch guilders, which is about €4,50
 . Foxtrot and Danger Money especially made an incredible impression on me.As for the UK debut: I discovered it later, some time after I bought UK's live album Night After Night. In the beginning I was a bit disappointed by the debut, because the tracks that were also on Night After Night sounded much more mechanical on the debut than the live versions. I also had to grow in appreciating jazz rock. I'm still not a big jazz rock fan, but I learned to appreciate Canterbury a lot, and Bruford's and Allan Holdsworth's albums, and the UK debut album also grew on me, immensely. These days I would say that I like the debut even more than Danger Money, but my favorite UK tracks are still the ones I mentioned at the beginning of my post.
So: favorite UK album: UK (debut)
Favorite UK tracks though: Danger Money, Rendez-Vous 6:02 and Carrying No Cross.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 13:05
their debut album. Amazing!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 15:22
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Danger Money
...accused of sounding like ELP , the response was ''Well ELP are no longer around ,we are''
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