prog music suggestions
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Forum Name: Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
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Topic: prog music suggestions
Posted By: stonebeard
Subject: prog music suggestions
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 15:57
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ive been listening to prog for about 3 yrs now, and wish to get more in depth. its daunting though, and i would appreciate band suggestions. i am an enormous fan of: dream theater, yes, pink floyd and a lesser fan of: genesis, frank zappa and i have heard at least 5 albums from each of the preceding bands, except for zappa. thank you |
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 16:29
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Rush- 2112, Hemispheres, A Farewell To the Kings- Ever thought aBOUT THEM? The Flower Kings- Unfold the Future, Adam and Eve, Flowerpower, Stardust We are- probably the best Neo-Prog band, if you consider them Neo-Prog by the way. Pain of Salvation- Be dvd/cd, Remedy Lane, 12:5, The Perfect Element Part I I'll give you more if you want. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 16:51
Just read the Archives......its a Goldmine! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 16:53
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Agreed. But maybe he wants an easier route? |
Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 16:58
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Jade Warrior - Last Autumn's Dream. I find this album captivating. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:05
Or maybe he just wants a chat, and to get to know us? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:10
Yea maybe |
Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:21
| King Crimson? Porcupine Tree? Camel? |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:30
| About Porcupine Tree, try In Abstenia, even though its their heaviest approach towards Prog, its my favorite. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:30
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All together now... GENTLE GIANT! |
Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:36
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King Crimson would be a great start to see what you like in prog! You could try some kraut rock ( Tangerine Dream, Neu, Klaus Schulze, Can, Kraftwerk) If you can, try those italian prog bands: Premiata Forneria Marconi Flower Kings (yes-like happiness) Eloy ( space rock à la Pink Floyd) Gentle Giant, Caravan, etc etc! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Philrod/?chartstyle=Geldropdown-small"> 
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:38
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------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:40
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Go for Dead Kennedys... Today I realized that Genesis and Neo-Prog retards a guy's mind.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:42
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:44
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@ Fantomas Hey, don't go there. Ivan loves Genesis as much as you love Fantomas and sticks up for it as you do for your stuff. Ivan's a good guy, really it's unfair to call him names. ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:45
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Oh, it was a joke only...
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:46
Funnily enough there's a thread around here that states a solid case for the Dead Kennedys being a very interesting band... ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:50
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How about Shadow Gallery aand Symphony X oh aand Ayreon if you like Dream Theater? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:52
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Lyrically, Dead Kennedys and Jello Biafra solo albums are the most instructive bands of all times!
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:55
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Good choices - let's add some DT side projects here - Liquid Tension Experiment, James LaBrie's, John Petrucci's and Jordan Rudess' solo stuff, OSI, Frameshift, oh, and Explorers' Club Maybe also Chroma Key, to complement the suggestions above and to couterweigh them a little... ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
! Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:56
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Liquid Tension Experiment and LaBrie's last solo album are amazing!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 18:02
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Except one part with SYmphony X, they are really boring, even though I do like their albums, it gets really old. Let's try Spastic Ink, Threshold or Evergrey |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 18:07
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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6678&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6678&a mp;a mp;PN=1 And some more suggetions: if you like Zappa, maybe Captain Beefheart and Adrian Belew's solo stuff will appeal to you? ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 18:08
Musically they're also great! One of the most inventive "punk" bands. I'll see the thread. ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 18:23
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Then YOU must have been listening to them very much |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 18:38
Yes, I used to listen to Genesis...  ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Pir2
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 18:47
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I started listen TOOL, i think it's better than DT, Genesis orYes, Star with KC is much hard that they think, stonebeard, i think, KC is much sofisticate than DT or other, atn least i think that. LTE is good, very good, but LTE 2 isn't so good. there`re Chilean band good like Exsimio (www.exsimo.cl), if you go to "Audio" (the page is in Spanish) you can heard the first cd full, and demos of the second, recently it left the oven, is good, or Ergo Sum, but no try with Akineton Retard, dont try!!! (http://www.mylodonrecords.com/, many chilean group, mexican, and someones of the c**try that is beside Chile) Symphny X??, i think they sucks, like Rapsody, another group i fund only one song and it's very god is 4/3 de trio, a french group, and a new gruop is Distand Dream http://www.distantdream.com/home/ or you can go to www.magnacarta.net, here are many proyect of dt and other group, ahh, and, of course, Emerson, Lake & Palmer is an excellent choice and if you like DT, don´t heard Train, it really suck, i almost thing DT was finished when i hear it. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 19:08
We all can tell.... |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 20:19
How about Transatlantic? -------------  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:28
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"The f**kers" are one hell of a f**king ass-licking band! Didn't make any albums though, they f**ked MAANI'S ASS instead |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:30
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very nice... thank you all. and continue sending replies, for they will be much appreciated. i know i am about to commit a sin in the world of prog but i gotta say it. i think that "in the court of the crimson king" is a very tedious, silly and a bit overrated album. it is almost pure experimentation. sure there are beautiful parts, but they are always skewed by unnecessary pieces of jangling noise. especially prevelent in "21st century schizoid man" i love the final song though. i dig rush too, now that i think of it, but they obviously never stick out in my mind because, to me, they seem like a classic rock band "trying" to be progressive, and just not being successful. "symphonic prog", something like yes, is probably what i'm most interested in other than "prog metal" |
king crimson and genesis are just not my type of band.
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:39
I wouldn't write off Genesis so quickly & certainly can't be compared to the tedious King Crimson! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:53
Symphonic Prog like Yes, then definitely the Neo Progressive Rock like The Flower Kings and Spock's Beard will definitely do. Buy Snow, V for Spock's Beard. Since you are a DT fanatic try TransAtlantic. 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:53
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dont get me wrong, i like genesis. i own trespass, nursery cryme, foxtrot, selling england..., and lamb...(all the good stuff, i'm told), but i cant listen to them very often (they depress me)
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:00
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Now that makes me even more interested in recommending you light, mostly happy The Flower Kings
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:17
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thank u much KING O LOSS ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:19
If you like symphonic but with a heavier approach you should try out some ARENA albums. I think you'd like 'Contagious' 'Immortal' & 'The Visitor' |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:28
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And if you like The Flower Kings,try Kaipa and The Tangent.Roine Stolt's all instrumental solo cd Hydrophonia is excellent too.I am really digging the band Karmakanic,another side project by a FK member(Jonas Reingold).Their first album "Entering the Spectra" has a lot of FK members playing on it(Roine Stolt,Tomas Bodin,Zoltan Czorz,Jaime Salazar).Their second "Wheel of Life" is also very good,heavier,sounding like more of a band effort and less like FK.Roine only contributes guitar on a few tracks,and Bodin on one track.Very good band,I hope to see more work from them in the future. ------------- |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:33
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Also,I have made this suggestion before in another thread.If you happen to dig Transatlantic(Morse,Portnoy,Stolt,Trewavas,it doesn't get much better),and buy the cd SMPTe,try to get your hands on SMPTe:The Roine Stolt Mixes.I had SMPTe and then later was fortunate enough to get my hands on a copy of Roine's mixes and the difference is HUGE(for the better,IMHO). ------------- |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:46
| TransAtlantic is so awesome, those 20 minute+ tracks are some of the best epics I've heard. |
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:48
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I agree, 'Stranger In Your Soul' is in my all time top 5 |
Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:17
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If you want to listen to something happy listen to Van der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill.
or Mr. Bungle (Disco Volante). ..or... Tool (Lateralus/Aenima) ....or Amon Duul II (Phallus Dei, Yeti..?) ..Can, Ash Ra Tempel, Faust, Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Mars Volta, Tangerine Dream... what else am I forgetting?
[hint: don't listen to these bands if you find Genesis depressing] |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:19
| Hah, Tool is happy???? Well, I laugh at their lyrics and the band overall is a joke IMO. |
Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:23
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Hey, I actually like tool, I think they're really awesome. [The lyrics aren't great for the most part, you're right, but the music/vocals are really great I think] And no, Tool isn't happy, I wasn't being serious --- look at all the others I listed. |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:25
I'd indicate their first instead. ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:28
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Wow king.I agree TOOL is not a happy band,and their lyrics are sorta out there.But the band overall is a joke?I am a veteran of many,many concerts and live TOOL is the best band I have ever seen.Hands down.Period.Everything perfect and flawless,they sound even better than they do on cd.And you seem to like good drummers(Portnoy,who I worship),you don't think Danny Carey is an incredible drummer? ------------- |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:35
I like the band's talent, but Carey is IMO a huge waste of talent, just like Tool. I don't want to start a large argument here, because its not about Tool, its about recommending music to this dude. I'd not recommend Tool first of all because its so strange and its so inexcessible at first. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:41
Hey King,I wasn't trying to start an argument with you at all.Your musical tastes are quite similar to mine and I was just surprised at that statment.No harm,no foul. ------------- |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:42
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Maynard is a lord. I'd love to be able to watch their shows...
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:45
| Yes with Numetal, mallcore kids? No. IMHO, you wouldn't be able to enjoy it. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:52
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I didn't buy floor seats to see TOOL last year because I actually wanted to SEE and HEAR the band and didn't want to get the crap knocked out of me in the pit.So I got first tier seats and a friend of mine who had floor seats said the concert sucked for him.I had a great time.Did the same with Slipknot when I saw them last. ------------- |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:53
Slipknot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:55
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They are a guilty pleasure of mine.Along with Mudavyne. ------------- |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:56
Mudvayne  Except they ACTUALLY HAVE Talent.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:57
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Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:18
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I never even thought of that. Nu Metal = sh*t. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:21
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Yea, ITS REALLY obvious. Tool happens to one of their favorite bands along with Korn, Slipknot and Mudvayne.
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Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:27
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I really enjoy Tool, but too many people are obsessed with Maynard. Sure, he has fine vocal chords, but the man isn't a god, people. The same goes for A Perfect Circle - if Maynard hadn't been the vocalist, I never would have liked the band, but now that doesn't even matter because I don't like the band even with Maynard involved. . . ------------- "Don't listen to me." |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:42
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try these Camel - Mirage Gentle Giant - Free Hand Nektar - Remember the Future Strawbs - Hero and Heroine King Crimson - Islands/ Larks Tongues in Aspic Ayreon - Into the Electric Castle try some Italian stuff like Banco and PFM Aaron |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:44
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Ayreon- The Human Equation is better because of the variation, the emotions and better instrumentation. Really interesting song on The Human Equation is Day 16: Loser. There is a piccolo, flute, keyboards and Devin Townsend's roaring Mike Patton-like screaming, really weird. |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:45
If he is a god I don't know (Mike Patton and John Zorn are, for sure). But I'm sure he's not a human. ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:48
| Maynard can hold his voice for inhumane amounts of time right?? |
Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:51
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That'd be him, yeah. ------------- "Don't listen to me." |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:53
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Well, one of my favorites, Daniel Gildenlow has an inhumane falsetto range.
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Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:57
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Again, I still haven't given Pain of Salvation a try. . . I really need to, though. ------------- "Don't listen to me." |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 20:49
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I dont think The Human Equation is better than Into the Electric Castle. I think the only reason the Human Equation is so popular is because LaBrie is on vocals. Aaron |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 21:27
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Of Nektar I would rather recommend "Recycled" than "Remember the Future". -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |