You're A Prog Addict When... (Serious Edition)
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Topic: You're A Prog Addict When... (Serious Edition)
Posted By: Textbook
Subject: You're A Prog Addict When... (Serious Edition)
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 17:21
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We've got that thread for jokes about being a super-nerdy/obsessive prog fan, but what about the real/non-joke symptoms, things that make you stop and wonder about yourself? In myself I notice something kind of stupid that I keep doing anyway- if I'm listening to an album and something interrupts me or my attention wanders for some reason and I "miss" a bit, I will often restart the album, regardless of its length, from track one and begin all over again. I've tried not doing it and I've gotten irritable and distracted and ended up doing it anyway. In this way it can take absolute ages to get through one album.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 17:31
| I notice if I try to do homework while listening to prog I get get highly distracted and zone out, listening to the msuic |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 17:41
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Hi,
I live far enough inside the visuals that music create for me, that it is hard for me not to be able to get back into it if there is an interruption.
As you get older this happens a lot less I am thinking, what with no kids to ask for help with their homework, or mom telling you again, that you are not studying for your test!
In general, music has been my wife, lover, teacher, manager, instructor, god, devil, religion and everything else that you can think of to the point where it doesn't matter.
I tend to rate how nice and how good things are by the amount of inner excitement and visuals it creates. And a lot of music has none at all, and I often think that someone just sat there in front of a piece of paper and plugged notes and figured that is called music! There is a lot of that around here in these prog circles I sometimes think! But I'm insulated inside my own art, so it sometimes is easy to say that.
In the end, music is music, just like art is art, and a book is a book. And how you work with it, is not as important as the end result of the interaction between you and that work.
It's all really simple really!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 17:53
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When you decline to buy a new album just because you notice that the band doesn't have a keyboard member in the band. It happened me several times a couple of years ago, I went in a record store, see the album of some new band I've heard randomly wherever, and check the credits on the back and saw that they didn't have a keyboard member, you know, that the keyboards were played by the producer or a guest player, and I didn't buy it... I thought "how this guys could possible make good prog just with drums, bass and guitars?" and to say the true, just few bands can possible be interesting without a key member like a keyboard player... at least in prog... Now it doesn't happen that often, but I think is because my policy now is just to by albums of my favorite bands (all of them have a formal member keyboard player in there so... ) and the fact that I don't buy a physical album in six months or so... ------------- |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 18:03
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When you log everything in into a spreadsheet and then devise a rotation scheme so no albums get neglected. Granted I do include non prog in the scheme, but most of the music in my collection is prog. I used to spend way too much time in the morning trying to figure out what I wanted to load into my CD case. And since I've been collecting CDs since the mid '80's, I try to tilt the balance in favor of the newer titles. Right now I've been going through the newest 700 titles. Right now I have fourteen slots open in the case. I've down to 330 of the newest 700. Here's what generated: Automatic Man Automatic Man 1976 Bowie, David Station to Station 1973 Burton, Gary Good Vibes 1969 Gabriel, Peter Long Walk Home Music From The Rabbit-Proof Fence 2002 Hackett, Steve Cured 1981 Marillion Script For A Jester's Tear (Remaster) 1983 Muffins, The Bandwidth 2002 Oldfield, Mike Tubular Bells 2003 2003 Oregon Moon and Mind 1979 Porcupine Tree Up the Downstair 1993 Prince Musicology 2004 Radiohead Ok Computer 1997 Rush A Farewell to Kings 1977 Sylvian, David Dead Bees On A Cake 1999 ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 18:52
That sounds more like Obsessive Compulsive Disorder than Prog Addiction, to me  =F= ------------- "You must go beyond the limit of the limit of your limits!" - Mr. Doctor "It is our duty as men and women to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
Textbook wrote:Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 01:06
| Exactly what I was thinking. |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 05:51
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I can understand the need to feel an album in it's completeness. A song, composition or epic has a structure and emotional development, but often good prog albums have that same development on a larger scale: the complete album has a sort of complete feel with a beginning and an end (like a sort of ritual).
Though I also believe music is the most enjoyable when listening to complete albums (perhaps as a ritual of some sort), I do think what the topic-starter has described sounds a bit like an obsession. This obsession however, becomes a disorder when it seriously harms the person and lowers the quality of life (in multiple ways). This important latter part has not been mentioned by Textbook. So there's still no reason to use the term Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. On topic. The only good measure of acquiring information about how addicted some-one is to prog is the time he or she spends listening and/or thinking about it. I do spend very much time with my prog-hobby, but perhaps less then the average time other people spend watching tv (active/in-active). This re-frames the prog-addiction from an addiction to a higher quality of spare time usage. I think watching tv is way more destructive (especially these days). |
Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 06:08
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I'm not addicted to prog (or any other music), I don't go through withdrawal symptoms if I stop listening to it. Music does improve my quality of life a lot: if I'm feeling depressed, or obsessing over something I'd rather forget, music can drown out the errant thoughts in my head. It's also a lot easier to wash dishes (or do other boring housework) with loud music playing in the background. As for the forums, I'm definitely addicted to those  =F= ------------- "You must go beyond the limit of the limit of your limits!" - Mr. Doctor "It is our duty as men and women to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 09:14
| I work on many progressive pieces and it would seem that this so called accusation of being nerdy has more to do with the effect the music has on a large sum of people. The gymnastics of it is quite sportsmen and incorporates breathing exercises and development of the upmost dexterity. Most people define gymnastics in prog with the pompous in the musician. The interesting aspect for me is the fact that the technical side to music was written centuries ago. Whether you are a singer songwriter or a basic rocker there will come a time where you will be required to play something technical. Paginini or whoever, it has all been written before. I am still a prog addict when it comes to collecting titles and I keep the hobby private. Any pressure from the negative side should not be entered into and if you can somehow adapt the attitude of a monk, content with rejection, then solitude becomes a must with your afternoons of prog. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 09:23
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Personally, I spend way too much money on CDs. I often buy CDs I know nothing about because they look cool, and have found some great music that way (a few duds as well.) But the act of collecting strange and unusual music sometimes supercedes the music itself. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 10:43
Apparently i have some serious psychological issues like the rest of you.
Like Slartibarfast i do have a rotation so that each cd gets listened to on a semi-regular basis.Although my rotation includes only what i consider 4 and 5 stars albums. I also feel the need to listen all the way through a cd and not skip anything. Buying cds has been a problem although i've talked myself(yeah that's normal) into not seeking out that one cd that will change my life. Honestly when is enough enough? I should enjoy what i have instead of always collecting and searching(talking to myself again).Do they have a Prog Anonymous? Or PA? Nevermind. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 15:11
this is very much what i feel, but it is more the sign of a musically intellinget person than specifically a prog fan. i have many non-prog albums that i wouln't be the same if the track order would change and the songs work much better in context with the album. an album is an piece of music, the tracks are sections in it. |
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 15:16
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[QUOTE=jampa17]
When you decline to buy a new album just because you notice that the band doesn't have a keyboard member in the band. It happened me several times a couple of years ago, I went in a record store, see the album of some new band I've heard randomly wherever, and check the credits on the back and saw that they didn't have a keyboard member, you know, that the keyboards were played by the producer or a guest player, and I didn't buy it... I thought "how this guys could possible make good prog just with drums, bass and guitars?" and to say the true, just few bands can possible be interesting without a key member like a keyboard player... at least in prog... Now it doesn't happen that often, but I think is because my policy now is just to by albums of my favorite bands (all of them have a formal member keyboard player in there so... ) and the fact that I don't buy a physical album in six months or so... [/QUOTE
So you have'nt got any Rush albums, then????? ------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..." |
Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 16:22
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When you listen to prog so often that you are influencing your young children's tastes in music. Seriously. Over the last few weeks, my 2 1/2 year old daughter has referred to songs from the following albums as "nice music": IQ: Tales from the Lush Attic, The Wake, Frequency Marillion: Marbles by the Sea Arena: The Visitor Magenta: Revolutions, Seven. She has also referred to Yes's The Ladder as "happy music." About half an hour ago, she asked me to put some music on. I put on Tales from the Lush Attic, and she was satisfied. We win.
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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 16:25
Oh, I almost forgot: she also likes Transatlantic's Live in Europe. 
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 17:40
Now THAT is one cool girl with great taste  In answer to the question, I do not think I am addicted to prog, I just have to listen to some every day ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: StrangerByTheMinute
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 17:47
| I almost never buy albums that don't have 10+ minute long songs. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 17:48
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I have the homework procrastination issue... While I'm doing homework I always have music on and progarchives open, both of which tend to distract me. I get good grades, but I usually hold things off to the last day or two.
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Posted By: MaxerJ
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 19:19
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You don't get Relayer. You listen to Relayer again. You don't get Relayer. You listen to Relayer again. You don't get Relayer. You listen to Relayer again. OR You start the week with $350. You walk into JB Hi-Fi and come out with $14 ------------- Godspeed, You Bolero Enthusiasts  'Prog is all about leaving home...' - Moshkito
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 19:33
That is so true! And the ironic part is that after 20 listens it can become one of your favorite albums! -------------
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 19:47
Substitute Relayer for Third, and that's me I still don't like it, but I'm sure it must be good if everyone loves it so much. Better try again |
Posted By: LastDaysofParadise
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 22:01
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The albums you own have less than ten songs a piece, but the album is an hour or longer. ------------- "If the universe is the answer, what is the question?" |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: May 13 2010 at 07:15
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Mine is more of a statement on rock music as opposed to just prog rock on its own. I actually do get withdrawal symptoms from my music! For example, after about a week of not listening to anything, I am very, very miserable for what seems to be no reason, until I decide to put an album on. All of a sudden it goes away and I feel very good indeed when I remember what I've been missing. I also genuinely thirst for new rock music to the point of great irritability in the event that I do not find any. It also takes up most of my thinking time. So much so, that my imagination is more like a personal radio to me.
I go through phases where I get a little taste of grunge and so proceed to seek out and listen to as much grunge as I can. Then I settle down for a bit and before I know it, I'm seeking out every morsel of prog...then metal...and back again! These phases can last months...even years.
...If I am not an addict of rock music, then Progarchives is a Mongolian yak. ------------- "Man is nothing else but that which he makes of himself" - Sartre |
Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: May 13 2010 at 08:30
I'm with you, FusionKing. I'm always listening to somethng, even if I'm the only one who can hear it--and no, I am not referring to headphones.
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Posted By: shockedjazz
Date Posted: May 13 2010 at 11:20
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When you get Relayer at the second time. Prog-adict yeah! |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 13 2010 at 17:17
I don't spend one tenth of what I want to spend ... who the heck are you kidding? And I am not a collector ... at all although I have been told and asked to part with certain things ... that I simply can't ... I love them too much!
Excuse me I need to go kiss and unzip those lips! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: MaxerJ
Date Posted: May 13 2010 at 18:26
Exactly this.
Grr. ------------- Godspeed, You Bolero Enthusiasts 'Prog is all about leaving home...' - Moshkito
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: May 14 2010 at 07:13
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When you get relayer the FIRST time around!!!
YEAH! CHAMPIOOOOON!!! I am the lord of the Yes fanboys!   ------------- "Man is nothing else but that which he makes of himself" - Sartre |
Posted By: shockedjazz
Date Posted: May 14 2010 at 09:56
Yeah you are.....the truth is the first time i listened to it i was not very intrigued by the popish begining of "Gates"...Mea culpa! Man it is a conceptual song.....and the second comandment of the prog bible is:
"Dont judge the song or album if you didnt hear it enterily, especialy if its conceptual"
My respect to the lord of Yes fanboys
 And dont be angry with us...were just progadicts top fanboys
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Posted By: drmfreek
Date Posted: May 14 2010 at 11:25
| When you see iPod (or other mp3 players) advertisements that list their capacity based on number of songs and just laugh. |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: May 14 2010 at 17:47
And on the flipside, if you buy albums simply because they have songs longer than 10 (or 20) minutes long. That's why I bought Beardfish's Sleeping in Traffic, Pt. 2, which ended up being a great decision. However, it's also the reason I end up with lots of super-cheesy prog of questionable quality.  ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 14 2010 at 18:41
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This!
As for the forums, I'm definitely addicted to those
Yes, everyday I think about it and post reviews but the real addiction comes from spending so much time here on the PA. The music is listened to everyday but sometimes I need to withdraw to a straight 4/4 band such as The Sweet or industrial such as Gary Numan or something, just to clear out the syncopated rhythms in my brain. The prog beats get in there and you cant get rid of them. its weird. Even if I get on guitar or especially synthesiser I want to play a proggy rhythm. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: May 14 2010 at 18:43
Oh man me too! It's kind of hard to do homework without music either, so I have to play at low volumes, which is no fun. |
Posted By: daria
Date Posted: May 16 2010 at 12:51
| growing up on downloading... if I ever do buy CD's, they are almost definitely always prog. Partially because I know the artwork is going to be thought-provokingly stare-worthy, but mostly because I find it is the only music worth purchasing. |
Posted By: daria
Date Posted: May 16 2010 at 13:49
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Oh! When you buy a messenger bag (which you wear everywhere) with the large words 'Enjoy Prog Rock' printed on it, in the font of coca cola.. so you that you can let everyone know how you're NOT part of the anonymous flock of normal people who are into Indie and saying 'awrright' and never giving more than 3 words in response to EVERY question. I'm done :) |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: May 16 2010 at 15:42
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Don't Agree that Keyboard is Essential in Progressive , The Proof was Flairck ( Variations on a Lady) , Still , I Love keyboards in Progressive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 17 2010 at 07:13
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When I listen to something for the very first time and if it's progressive, it takes me less than 5 seconds to decide if I like it or not. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 17 2010 at 19:56
It's one of my biggest complaints about most "prog" listings here. And then separating things almost because of it. It's just bizarre. For all intents and purpoises, things like Incredible String Band and Guru Guru are so progressive for what they do, and their irreverence for what would otherwise be considered a conventional concept of music, that no one can deal with it. Some of the early Guru Guru is to my ear what Jimi Hendrix probably wanted to do that people around him didn't! ... and the results can be seen in their early stuff and even in their most composed album (Tango Fango) they have a cut that blows it all out and even explains their madness and method. Robin Williamson still talks about wanting to do more with music and even within a theatrical and experimental environment ... but somehow this is not "prog" enough when in the end this is so gutsy and so scary and so adventurous ... and too many bands are being defined with the term progressive simply because they DO have a keyboard, and their music is no more adventurous and "progressive" in every sense of the word, as these, for example, and there are a lot of others.
And that is where the terms come in for various different definitions of "prog" ... I love the "goth" one ... and you know that the difference is between this one and any other metal or hard stuff out there, right? ... one special effect on a guitar or voice! ... and that is totally counter the definition and process of what music is all about and specially what "progressive" is all about. Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson, and all the major bands we love and still ddiscuss, almost none of them were about the "effect", they were actually about adding, and experimenting with new instruments, which is incredibly different from the simplicity of just using another effect on the guitar or the mix that so many bands use today ... you would think they are experimenting, and sure it could be said they were, but all in all, I am inclined to believe that the guts to do what these bands are doing today opposite what those bands did years ago .. it's not even close. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 17 2010 at 20:04
You know ... it's funny ... I always thought this was an album to tell a lot of YES fans to stuff it and shut up and either listen up and enjoy it or give it up. Sadly, in the end, and 30 years later ... it's still about the hits, and not "Relayer" ... and it was an issue then, too, when folks heard ToTo and the first complaint out of KMET? ... it ain't Roundabout! ... and in the end, the real issue was that they did not want to play long cuts and they did not, and some folks still DON'T, believe in the music and these people's ability to create a "symphony" a "concert" that is akin to classical music ... too many people are demanding a 4 or 5 minute song for their satiety! I really thought "Relayer" was about this ...
It is one of those albums that I really enjoy listening to ... like TOTO is ... timeless pieces of music that just take you away ... and I like the fact in "Relayer" that ... there might not be anything to get ... just music to enjoy! And what great music it is! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: May 17 2010 at 20:12
Where can you buy those? I want one!  ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: LastDaysofParadise
Date Posted: May 17 2010 at 20:49
This is too funny. ------------- "If the universe is the answer, what is the question?" |
Posted By: daria
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 14:07
Haha sure, it's not like it's popular :\
Would be awesome to bump into someone wearing this
 http://www.redmolotov.com/catalogue/tshirts/all/enjoy-prog-rock-tshirt/black-messenger-bag.html - http://www.redmolotov.com/catalogue/tshirts/all/enjoy-prog-rock-tshirt/black-messenger-bag.html
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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 14:41
Niiiice! But I'd like one with the Pepsi or Mountain Dew font.  And welcome to another girlie!  ------------- Property of Queen Productions... 
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Posted By: daria
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 14:59
hmmm, maybe.. but this was more than I could ask for when my previous bag fell apart. *feels 'hip' wearing it*
Wooo, warm welcome! :) There needs to be more girls in prog damnit!
We are among the first..
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 12:44
I stand up and say "I'm Juan Pablo, and I'm addicted to prog..."
The circle around me applaud and the next one stands and say... ------------- |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 12:46
What!!!!??? another girl... this site is became popular guys... we need to get Britney Spears and Madonna into the site...!!! we'll be bigger than facebook...!!!
welcome to the new girl..!!! this site is addictive...!!! ------------- |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 13:53
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i once listened too the lamb lies down on broadway 3 times in a day then when i fell asleep dreampt the entire storyline and i was Rael. that was quite an obsessive prog day, and i also dedicate one day a year where i listen too classic prog rock none stop all day. Yes i think i fit the description of obsessive prog fan
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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 15:22
Only one day?
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 15:32
i try too listen too other genres on other days but suffer from severe withdrawal symptoms
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Posted By: rosenbach
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 22:04
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I think you're a prog addict when you keep buying the same albums of your favourite bands over and over again (vynil > cd > remastered cd > remastered with bonus cd > minilp sleeve cd > SACD or SHM cd ...), play it once and keep it in your collection.
But i have to say some of my prog friends are more addicted to prog than me (at least a couple of them have bought twice the same cd in japanese minilp sleeve just to keep one sealed for etenity!), i just hope my wife understand this. |
Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 11:17
I haven't restarted an album! ...but I have restarted a track because I was interrupted. ------------- If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud! |
Posted By: WileyMarshall
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 12:39
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You won't buy an album if anyone in the band is remotely attractive at all I'm kidding, but doesn't that seem to be the case? On a serious note though, I'll usually exclude obtaining an album if I don't see any kind of "unusual" instruments. When I say unusual, I mean something other than just guitars and drums. Usually, a violin, flute, or saxophone will do it for me, but if I see oboe or cello it's a definite buy. I've pretty much covered everything that interests me in prog music, so I feel the need to venture out to even MORE unusual prog than what I was already getting. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 14:35
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Speaking of dreaming, I dreamt that their was a new Pink Floyd album released and almost cried when I woke up ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 16:05
| When you spend hours listening to samples of bands from all over the world so you can find more prog that you like and your wife looks at you and just rolls her eyes! |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 06:31
I'm a bit like this too. I spend tonnes on CDs, some from bands I've never heard. I've discovered some gems this way, but quite a bit of muck, too.After a while, it becomes more about the collecting than the quality of the music. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 06:34
Guilty. I have the bare bones and anniversary reissue CDs of Yes' Close To The Edge, two copies of Led Zep's Physical Graffiti, two copies of PT's In Absentia (the US version, and European special tour edition)... ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 13:04
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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:36
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You have the following conversation with your not-quite-three-year-old daughter: Daughter: Can we get out of the car now? Father: As soon as this song's over, sweetie. Daughter: Is the song almost over? Father: Almost. Only six or seven minutes to go.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:59
Relayer was my first Yes album. I've had it for years, don't know how many times I've listened to it and still can't stand it. AND I went out and bought Close to the Edge and Tales from Topographic Oceans despite not liking the only Yes album I knew. (I do like those two, though) -------------
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 00:44
Relayer was my second Yes album (first was 90125). I didn't get it, but I still knew I loved it. I distinctly remember thinking, the first time I listened to it, "this album was made by geniuses."
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 20:04
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Hi,
Listening to Relayer in those days, was like you listening to Achilles' Last Stand by Led Zeppelin. You were so used to hearing something else, like another song for radio, that all of a sudden ... something totally different that left rock'n'roll mentality in the dust ... just left you there hanging. In general, I like that because it tells me that the artist is trying to be himself ... and sometimes it is an internal storm, and then ... the softness ... long ago, so clear ... you know, in my book, Yes died with that piece of music! After that I heard Olias of Sunhillow and realized what Yes might have been if they had been able to get Vangelis to replace Rick Wakeman ... and I kinda think the problem might be that Vangelis was already too well known, to be going back and playing rock'n'roll with kids. You listen to Olias of Sunhillow, and you wonder ... how the heck could Vangelis ever play Roundabout or TfTo. I don't think he could. But any new music? ... ohhh yeah, baby ... ohh yeah ... and the couple of albums he did with Jon were excellent and exactly what YES was missing!
By that time I was done with the addiction part ... I was too busy with school at UCSB and directing at night and working 40 hours a week to pay rent and survive!
But again, prog was never an addiction. The good music was! And 30 years later I have Amon Duul 2 ... but no Emerson Lake and Palmer! Why? ... sorry ELP's only worthwhile albums are the first 4 and it's over and they became nothing but an electrical idiocy instead of concentrating in the music. That was not "prog" ... that was pretentious!
Why the heck would I have stayed with that kinda stupid stuff when there was better out there? A LOT better! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 20:56
That's the single coolest thing I've ever heard.
------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 21:08
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I have a minor OCD when if the album is a concept album, all of the songs have to have equal play counts, I also hesitate to buy an album if it has no tracks that are 7+ minutes |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 06:10
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 07:52
i have that and sometimes spend a good hour listening to odd tracks from an album to get them to the right play count -------------  
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Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 14:58
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You don't get Relayer. You listen to Philip Glass - Music in Twelve Parts. Halfway through the second track, you frantically scramble for Relayer
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 17:00
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There's probably an alarming (to the uninitiated, anyway) ratio regarding time joined PA and the number of posts therein.
We know who we are.
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 17:19
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a new one for today When you wake up in the morning with 352 emails all from forum replys -------------
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 05:16
| When You cant work without Prog Music and buy everyday prog albums. When your younger brother die, you go to your room and listen "In the cage". When Progressive be your savior.......... |
Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 10:35
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When I download music onto an IPod it has to be an entire album...not just 1 or 2 songs from it. Also I have downladed all my albums into it or plan to anyway, which means I currently have from A-G on one IPod.
When I leave my car, I will always restart the song I left off on getting back in.
I NEVER buy greatest hit albums or compilations.
I hate shortened single versions to songs..i.e... Cinderella Search, or In A Gadda Da Vida for example.
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 10:38
That I can relate to.
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 10:41
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Posted By: daria
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 11:13
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When you start to lose sanity if you haven't heard or found an original-sounding band in over 7 days... |
Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: August 08 2010 at 14:09
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Woah! Thats terrible. Very sorry for your loss. This discussion is a great forum for us progressive fans to discuss the importance of music beyond "simple listening pleasure". It can have healing qualities to it.
One of my life mantra's has been that "music never lets me down". No matter what I've gone through in my life, I've always had the music there with me. To mourn, to celebrate, to help me work, and even to write about and collect and keep lists and provide some backbone structure to my life.
Hell, I manage a large company, and I attribute Rock n Roll (Prog being my favorite) as being a big part of that. I call myself a R&R Manager, and I've always got music blasting in my office. I find the whole attitude helps me focus and be creative in certain ways that I can see non-music people don't get. I'll often kick up the discussion in a meeting because its not working, and I think "this certainly is not Rock n Roll, lets get some R&R infusion in here."
My brother on the other hand has very little music in his life. I often wonder how he goes through his day with all that silence.
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Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: August 09 2010 at 10:33
Haha, I'm the same way -------------
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 10:53
| I will almost never buy remastered CDs unless I have the original edition without the bonus tracks |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 18:57
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You know you're a prog fan when you can headbang in 9\8.
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Posted By: lensag
Date Posted: August 13 2010 at 06:36
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when you start visting PA too often
when your 8 gb mp3 is small to put the entire discography of the bands you love and the ones you´re still trying to get into
when none of you friends listen the same that you do
when you can´t listen to radio on you car
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 18 2010 at 12:38
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I know I'm a prog addict because I defend the genre passionately whenever somebody insults it; I don't do it with any other types of music I like. It's seems silly, but if we all counted the percentage of our lives spent listening to prog music, we would realise just how significant it is- becoming part of our personalities. I also do the obsessive play-count thing where every song must have even number of plays......
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