Purple (symphonic prog/crossover prog) UK
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Topic: Purple (symphonic prog/crossover prog) UK
Posted By: DocDan
Subject: Purple (symphonic prog/crossover prog) UK
Date Posted: March 26 2010 at 10:07
Project Name: Purple
Nationality: UK
Genre: Symphonic prog? I find it hard to categorise, I am too close to it! Long instrumental tracks contantly changing like Tubular Bells, melodic and experimental, sometimes soundscapes like Shine On You Crazy Diamond... you tell me!
Personnel: Dan Hodgson (44) - everything (at the moment).
Status: two self-produced albums, all available for free currently at last.fm ( http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29 - http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29 ). At the moment the intention is to continue on a free + voluntary donations basis. Just about to start work on album 3.
Website: http://purplemusic.org - http://purplemusic.org
Blog (which will focus on creation of 3rd album): http://purplemusicblog.blogspot.com/ - http://purplemusicblog.blogspot.com/
Facebook presence: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Purple-the-music-project/103645846338518?ref=ts - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Purple-the-music-project/103645846338518?ref=ts
Album 1: "11 Bells" 1 track (60:00) "11 Bells"
Stream: http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29/11+Bells/11+Bells - http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29/11+Bells/11+Bells
Download: http://freedownloads.last.fm/download/218551953/11%2BBells.mp3 - http://freedownloads.last.fm/download/218551953/11%2BBells.mp3
Artwork: http://www.purplemusic.org/11bellsart.html - http://www.purplemusic.org/11bellsart.html
Album 2 "Under A Binary Tree"
track 1 "The Ebony Queen" (32:00)
Stream http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29/Under+A+Binary+Tree/The+Ebony+Queen - http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29/Under+A+Binary+Tree/The+Ebony+Queen
Download: http://freedownloads.last.fm/download/359040475/The%2BEbony%2BQueen.mp3 - http://freedownloads.last.fm/download/359040475/The%2BEbony%2BQueen.mp3
track 2 "The Ivory Tower" (32:00)
Stream: http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29/Under+A+Binary+Tree/The+Ivory+Tower - http://www.last.fm/music/Purple+%28Dan+Hodgson%29/Under+A+Binary+Tree/The+Ivory+Tower
Download: http://freedownloads.last.fm/download/359040476/The%2BIvory%2BTower.mp3 - http://freedownloads.last.fm/download/359040476/The%2BIvory%2BTower.mp3
Artwork: http://www.purplemusic.org/Binaryart.html - http://www.purplemusic.org/Binaryart.html
please listen, please comment
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 17:33
Thanks to the slowly growing number of people who have read the post :) I'm sure everybody who posts with a budding band or project feels like this - it can feel a bit like a black hole out there. I have no way of knowing if people are getting to the music from here (but i know a steady, small dribble of people are finding their way to it from somewhere). It would mean a lot to me if anyone could be kind enough to post a comment or two. I resolve to do my bit and do likewise for others Cheers
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 18:00
Welcome DocDan! 
I'm gonna check UK Purple people and post my impression soon (sadly I'll be a bit busy with my duty and conferences this weekend ... ). Thanks much!
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 18:59
Will download and get back to you as soon as I have a chance to listen. I always enjoy hearing independent progressive artists. 
------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 22:34
Alright, I listened to 11 Bells and I have to say that I'm very impressed. As a sometimes composer I have trouble writing instrumental music that stays interesting longer than 4-5 minutes, and you did it for 60. Excellent music, I enjoyed very much. Will definitely listen to your other album before too long!
------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: June 22 2010 at 16:16
Thanks for your positive comments, great to hear you enjoyed it :) Especially good to hear that I managed to make a 1hr instrumental interesting - that was definitely a core aim. If you have a chance to try Under A Binary Tree I'd love your comments on that too.
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Posted By: warrplayer
Date Posted: June 22 2010 at 17:52
There is a lot to like here. On both albums. Some parts are really killer. My only real criticism is that the material seems to suffer from one man band syndrome. The composition definitely seems to outpace the playing ability in many places. You have a great lead tone going, but what it makes me want to hear is someone a bit more accomplished doing the playing. That said, many of the orchestral parts are true works of beauty. I think if you could hook up with the right collaborators you could put out some grade A top notch stuff.
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 07:23
Thanks for your great comments Warrplayer, having listened casually to the Mirror People stuff it's obvious that you are no mean musician yourself. It means a lot to have your positive comments. The negatives you point to are absolutely fair, and yes I do feel at times that my ambition overreaches my abilities. I do have a competing ambition to make the best music I can within the limitiations I have, favouring listening pleasure over temptations to show off technical ability. I hope that I'm getting better at playing skills, at patience with takes, at creative editing to realise what I'm after and at creating quality music within my limits. Obviously sometimes the two right slow notes played right are more effective than the 30 notes played fast. But sometimes I do wish I could shred with the best. Also the idea of collaborations is appealing. I'll return the favour and comment on Mirror People once I have had chance for a less casual listen Cheers :)
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 11:05
Hi Dan,
just a quick word from me. I downloaded "11 Bells" and am currently still listening to it. I very much enjoy what I hear!
There are maybe one or two parts I didn't like as much as the rest (especially the piano solo around 15'20''), but that doesn't spoil the thing as a whole. What I like about instrumental music is (and please don't take that badly) that you can listen to it while doing something else like reading or (as I did today) writing something. "11 Bells" is excellent background music for reading, in my opinion.
I'll grab "Under The Binary Tree" as well and listen to it. If you want, I'll let you know what I think about it as well.
Cheers and keep on proggin'!
------------- "We've got to get in to get out"
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Posted By: warrplayer
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 18:06
DocDan wrote:
I do have a competing ambition to make the best music I can within the limitiations I have, favouring listening pleasure over temptations to show off technical ability. I hope that I'm getting better at playing skills, at patience with takes, at creative editing to realise what I'm after and at creating quality music within my limits. |
Improving your craft in every area is never the wrong thing to do. Handling everything can make you a much better player at each individual instrument for sure. On the other hand, I always try to play with people who are way better than me. (which is easy to do if I'm not playing solo). Both paths have their advantages.
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 13:21
Guzzman wrote:
There are maybe one or two parts I didn't like as much as the rest (especially the piano solo around 15'20''), but that doesn't spoil the thing as a whole. What I like about instrumental music is (and please don't take that badly) that you can listen to it while doing something else like reading or (as I did today) writing something. "11 Bells" is excellent background music for reading, in my opinion.
I'll grab "Under The Binary Tree" as well and listen to it. If you want, I'll let you know what I think about it as well.
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I absolutely don't take that badly, and I agree. I listen to a lot of instrumental stuff at work, because work is mostly words and I don't like competing words. I'd love to think that if you give it more attention there is stuff there to listen to, but I love the idea of it just washing over you. I'd appreciate any critique you have of "Under A Binary Tree" - my wife thinks it's "weirder" and therefore I guess "less accessible" (but that may be because she has heard 11 Bells more). I'm currently working on album 3 so I'm loving any critiques - positives and negatives, it all helps me to grow as a musician and hone what I'm doing. Even the negatives that I disagree with are helping me define in a better way what it is I am aiming for. BTW if you have any stuff posted that you want me to return the favour on I'd be happy to do so.
Dan
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 01:11
Downloaded 11 Bells and listening to it now thanks;. Will review it soon
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 01:29
11 Bells
Very nice guitar intro, quite spacey in parts, Hackett like you might say. I like the ambient pads in the background. Quite a somber passage as it progresses along with acoustics and a cool synth that sounds like a flute adds to the tranquility. It builds to a jazz beat and frenetic keyboards augmented by the off beat guitars. The keyboard flourishes are fun to listen to. i think the lead guitar parts are well acomplished. Its never over the top or too heavy but has a cool atmosphere. The keys are working well with the overall sound, though I would have liked some full on Hammond or mellotron as I am a fan. It is good to listen to while I am working or on the forums rather than sitting down and just listening to intensely but thats not a bad thing as theres not much out there suitable for background music. I liked it and it has symphonic touches and some jazz fusion.
EDIT: )OK downloaded Ebony Queen
will let you know
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 17:12
warrplayer wrote:
Improving your craft in every area is never the wrong thing to do. Handling everything can make you a much better player at each individual instrument for sure. On the other hand, I always try to play with people who are way better than me. (which is easy to do if I'm not playing solo). Both paths have their advantages.
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It's true that in some ways I'm starting to feel like a Jack of all instruments, master of none, but if you cut right into me there is a bassist at the core. I do play regularly with other musicians and in recent years have been exposed to some truly excellent keyboard players. I find that every new musical venture or experience improves my abilities in the others. With this project I have never felt it has to be all me, but for practical reasons that's the way it has been so far. This way I can get it done in short bursts when I have an hour or two at a time, without having to pre-arrange things. Also this way at least in this one project I have total artistic control.
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: warrplayer
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 17:20
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 17:30
Heard all Doc Dan, I believe it's a great candidate for Crossover.
Iván
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 08:08
Hi Dan,
here we go again! I did indeed download "Under A Binary Tree" and gave it a couple of listens. Very well done is all I can say. I guess your wife is correct (aren't women all the time? ) in calling it weirder than "11 Bells". Especially "The Ebony Queen" I find harder to grasp, whereas "The Ivory Tower" get's hold of me and my attention all way through. I'm really glad that you didn't mind me saying that "11 Bells" great reading music. Next time I listen to it I'll try to pay more attention. But let me tell you something: A couple of weeks ago I got "The Natural World Trilogy" by Rick Wakeman. Although it's not bad, I just don't find it as interesting as your stuff. While I can stand listening to that triple CD only once at a time, I hit replay on my WinAmp after both of your albums as soon as the music ended. Thanks for letting us have it for free!! 
Cheers!
------------- "We've got to get in to get out"
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 06:17
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
11 Bells
The keys are working well with the overall sound, though I would have liked some full on Hammond or mellotron as I am a fan. It is good to listen to while I am working or on the forums rather than sitting down and just listening to intensely but thats not a bad thing as theres not much out there suitable for background music. I liked it and it has symphonic touches and some jazz fusion.
EDIT: )OK downloaded Ebony Queen
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Thanks for your positive words, as you'll see above other people are finding it to be good "background" music, and people outside this forum have made that comment too.
Interesting you should say that a bout the keys - there is a fair use of organ on "Under a Binary Tree" in one section, but still no Mellotron. My hankering for Mellotron grew and grew and so album three (in process right now) has some - I found a great free mellotron softsynth. I'm loving the fact that it uses sounds sampled from a mellotron, which in turn uses "sampled" sounds - double sampling!
Looking forwards to comments on "Under A Binary Tree" if you can (no pressure)
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 06:25
Guzzman wrote:
I hit replay on my WinAmp after both of your albums as soon as the music ended. |
That's gotta be my favourite compliment yet  .
I'm now so glad I posted here and so pleased that some people are enjoying the music. When I started the project it was pretty much for my own enjoyment of the process, and to see if I can. It's a hugely affirming thing to get positive comments from strangers.
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: July 04 2010 at 18:41
I'd like to thank everyone who has commented so far.
I hereby pledge that if anyone is kind enough to listen and comment, I will give quid pro quo - I'll do the same for you.
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: Marcusmax
Date Posted: July 06 2010 at 17:44
Hi DocDan. I've just finished listening to 11 Bells. This is really interesting music. I think your playing on all instruments is plenty competent enough for this material, I mean it works really well and I totally agree with what you say about music not necessarily being about technical wizardry, as long as you can realise your material competently enough, which you certainly can. It's difficult to give detailed feedback based on one listening but I think your composing is imaginative and adventurous, ranging from nice melodies and chord sequences to much more gutsy and rocky. Like some others have said, I am drawn to some sections more than others and wonder about the length of this piece - perhaps it could have been somewhat shorter and more punchy for that but you clearly set out to produce something large-scale which is very difficult to do and still maintain interest, which you do manage to do. All-in-all, I think you've done a great job here. Some sections are really exciting and immediately appealing. Will try and listen to the other pieces though some people have set me a large syllabus of listening requirements over on my 'newbie' thread so it might take a while!
I'd be interested in hearing your comments on my material if you wish to listen. I've posted it here:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68928 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68928
Thanks for letting us hear your music, Mark
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 16:39
Marcusmax wrote:
Hi DocDan. I've just finished listening to 11 Bells. This is really interesting music. I think your playing on all instruments is plenty competent enough for this material, I mean it works really well and I totally agree with what you say about music not necessarily being about technical wizardry, as long as you can realise your material competently enough, which you certainly can. It's difficult to give detailed feedback based on one listening but I think your composing is imaginative and adventurous, ranging from nice melodies and chord sequences to much more gutsy and rocky. Like some others have said, I am drawn to some sections more than others and wonder about the length of this piece - perhaps it could have been somewhat shorter and more punchy for that but you clearly set out to produce something large-scale which is very difficult to do and still maintain interest, which you do manage to do. All-in-all, I think you've done a great job here. Some sections are really exciting and immediately appealing. |
Thanks for the encouraging words 
The scale of "11 Bells" was definitely deliberate, as was the structure (exactly an hour, twelve 5-minute sections) which was inspired by hearing of Dream Theater making tracks of exact lengths. I was in two minds as to whether I should have made it twelve separate "tracks" despite it being continuous (on vinyl it wouldn't have mattered).
"Under A Binary Tree" similarly has a rigid structure, but this time there are two tracks, one with 4-minute sections, one with 8-minute sections. I am currently working on the third album for the project (probably called "B:M:S") which has three-minute sections. I have found that each different length leads to different approaches. Having 3-minute sections definitely makes things punchier than the 5-minute sections, but conversely I have less freedom to explore ideas, and I have to work harder not to make it feel disjointed.
Of course you like some sections more than others - so do I (it would be very hard to like them all the same). I'd love to hear which you like better - and why, and which you like less and why. So far I have been totally unable to predict which sections have been best received and maybe different sections will appeal to different people. I guess two of my main aims are to "make it diverse" and "keep it interesting".
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 04:28
The Ebony Queen begins with a majestic orchestrated synth, electric piano sound. The melodies trade off one another strongly. Alsmost brass like, but royal. regal and reminiscent of bombastic ELP in some ways. At about 3 minutes in i like the way the guitars echo the melody which becomes quite infectious. The duel guitar playing is certainly dynamic. The juxtaposition of guitars over a layered wall of keyboards works well. Acoustic guitar flourishes chime in at 4:10 changing the atmosphere and then a delightful lead solo with phased wah wah pedals, very strong sounds, squealing pitches and down sweeps on lead. The moderate tempo picking style emulates the synth chord structures. That Spanish flavour of acoustic vibrations at 6 minutes in transforms the time signature. It is vibrant and energetic. The wah wah lead breaks in again repeating the main motif melody. At 8:20 there is a chime or tubular bells sound thta works on a number of musical levels. It is serena nd calming at first then builds to a rather erratic musical metrical pattern. There are sporadic shifts in tempo and it quitens down so the high pitched chimes can create a dynamic pitch.
At 13 minutes there is a strange ethereal sound like a high sonic flute. The piercing sound takes some getting used to but it is whimsical like early Genesis and a joyous sound overall. An almost Parisian accordion piano sound comes in to the mix at 14:30, and this continues as a piano trades off various melodies. Some backwards guitar adds a pysychedelic flavour, transient and mystical; a highly effective addition to the soundscape.
At 20:20 a distorted guitar crashes in, a welcome change to the ethereal hyper strangeness of previous sounds, then a soaring lead guitar played with virtuosic skill.
At 24:00 a brass sound, almost jazz fusion, breaks the atmosphere. It feels as though we are in a jazz cafe at this point listening to two jazz players. It is quite humourous the way the brass sounds bounce off one another.
At 28 minutes the time sig changes and a guitar with hi hat percussion begins. There is even a whistle and some rattles; a wildly experimental vibe is the result. Then an ancient medieval feel with acoustics and old style picking enters. It ends at about 32 minutes with the twin acoustic guitar picking. A very compelling style of music.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 05:38
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Heard all Doc Dan, I believe it's a great candidate for Crossover.
Iván |
Technically Purple do not qualify for addition as the project falls into our "unsigned" criteria (the albums are only available as "free downloads"), and our policy is not to add unsigned bands.
I am prepared to accept this nomination on behalf of Crossover Prog for further evaluation if all Subgenre Team Leaders agree to my suggestion of allowing artists that permit free-downloads of all their mateial to qualify as "signed". (re: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62095 - my proposal in the SCZ )
@Dan - sorry, this isn't meant to be a downer on your music or this thread, I'm just pointing out a technical hitch to inclusion into the database, I haven't had chance to listen to your material yet, but will do in the course of time. Perhaps this thread would be better in http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=82 - this section of the forum.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 06:15
Great idea Dean. If the music is available as a download it could be worth adding to the archives. This is something i have not considered before but it seems to make sense.
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Posted By: Marcusmax
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 17:54
Have downloaded both albums onto my iPod and will listen again to all tracks. Hope to come back with more comments soon. Thanks again Dan for making this music available.
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 16:33
Dean wrote:
Technically Purple do not qualify for addition as the project falls into our "unsigned" criteria (the albums are only available as "free downloads"), and our policy is not to add unsigned bands.
I am prepared to accept this nomination on behalf of Crossover Prog for further evaluation if all Subgenre Team Leaders agree to my suggestion of allowing artists that permit free-downloads of all their mateial to qualify as "signed". (re: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62095 - my proposal in the SCZ )
@Dan - sorry, this isn't meant to be a downer on your music or this thread, I'm just pointing out a technical hitch to inclusion into the database, I haven't had chance to listen to your material yet, but will do in the course of time. Perhaps this thread would be better in http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=82 - this section of the forum.
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Thanks for this Dean, and I don't at all take this as any kind of downer, I am fully aware that this project is unsigned, hence why I am here. Of course I would be totally up for it to be included in the database, if deemed suitable. Is there anything I should be doing towards that or should I just sit back and see? Thanks for pointing me to the "Official "Review Our Music" Board" board - as far as I read it from the stickies on the board though, I should wait for if/when the project is included for that? Dan
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 05:49
Dean wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Heard all Doc Dan, I believe it's a great candidate for Crossover.
Iván |
Technically Purple do not qualify for addition as the project falls into our "unsigned" criteria (the albums are only available as "free downloads"), and our policy is not to add unsigned bands.
I am prepared to accept this nomination on behalf of Crossover Prog for further evaluation if all Subgenre Team Leaders agree to my suggestion of allowing artists that permit free-downloads of all their mateial to qualify as "signed". (re: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62095" rel="nofollow - my proposal in the SCZ )
@Dan - sorry, this isn't meant to be a downer on your music or this thread, I'm just pointing out a technical hitch to inclusion into the database, I haven't had chance to listen to your material yet, but will do in the course of time. Perhaps this thread would be better in http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=82" rel="nofollow - this section of the forum.
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Hi guus - it's been a while, initially I was waiting to see what happened here and then I guess I got distracted by several shiny things. Meanwhile teh website went down for a while without me noticing - it's back up now and so as before curious people can access the music through http://www.purplemusic.org/" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
I just wanted to give a little nudge and ask if there's a chance of this happening, and I pretty much agree that if I were to be graciously brought into the official realms of Prog Archives, that Crossover would be the best home.
Cheers.
P.S. Album number three is underway and is even more epic than the previous two 
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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Posted By: DocDan
Date Posted: July 01 2011 at 18:37
Hi - 3 things:
First I am now my own official "record company". It didn't take much (aparantly for digital download and streaming you don't need much). While I am no "signed" the albums are now official releases. Does that change my status? Second, for anybody who is interested, album number three will be release in quarter 4 2011 (provisional date, 11.11.11) there is a blog about the creation at http://purplemusicblog.blogspot.com/ " rel="nofollow - http://purplemusicblog.blogspot.com/ , is you are a facebooker and you "like" it ( http://www.facebook.com/Purpleproject" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/Purpleproject )you will get snippets of news and factiods, advance access to the music, rough mix snippets and all sorts (and I will be launching a viral marketing game when the album comes). Oh and the website is revamped. Third - just bumping the post up back tot he top to see if anyone's watching, still no answer on whether I could make it onto the database (I know you guys are busy ) Cheers
------------- The purple music project is an instrumental prog rock project.
http://www.purplemusic.org" rel="nofollow - http://www.purplemusic.org
Dan
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