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Topic: A Little Afternoon in the StudioPosted By: Negoba
Subject: A Little Afternoon in the Studio
Date Posted: February 13 2010 at 22:08
I had a day alone and spent it trying to learn my new recording software. I made this little mess. I have no idea how to categorize it but everything is just my acoustic guitar and EQ.
I know it's rough, just stuff to enjoy the process of making music.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
Replies: Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 00:09
I think it's pretty neat. Sorta 'Django's missing fingers grew back and he's jamming with Steve Howe' to my untrained ears.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 00:24
well if it's not Scottish it's crap, but I liked it nevertheless, great harmonies and very jazzy
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 00:40
Atavachron wrote:
well if it's not Scottish it's crap, but I liked it nevertheless, great harmonies and very jazzy
If only that were true David.
You may have heard of:
The Bay City Rollers Slik The Krankies Big Country Run Rig Marmalade Lena Zavaroni
That's not a list, it's a crimescene
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 00:50
before we write-off the Bay City Rollers, let me just point to the unusual and difficult circumstances the band went through, from Wiki: Since the band's quick rise to, and subsequent fall from fame, the
members have endured numerous and varied struggles regarding royalty
payments, substance abuse, and personal legal problems.
my God man, when a band has loved and lost like these guys, it's no wonder they stink
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 01:04
Atavachron wrote:
before we write-off the Bay City Rollers, let me just point to the unusual and difficult circumstances the band went through, from Wiki: Since the band's quick rise to, and subsequent fall from fame, the
members have endured numerous and varied struggles regarding royalty
payments, substance abuse, and personal legal problems.
my God man, when a band has loved and lost like these guys, it's no wonder they stink
So what yer saying is that had it not been for groupies, addictions, poverty, litigation, dress sense, blind barbers and zero talent, the Rollers could have made Yes sound like the Sex Pistols ?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 01:11
that's right
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 08:45
Bay City Rollers aside, thanks for taking the time to listen guys. I had fun making it, thought a few here might enjoy one time through.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 09:06
Very nice, Jay!
It reminded a little bit of this great though unknown tune from the Age of Empires 2 credits:
(the last bit)
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 09:21
All my lessons way back when were mostly metal or jazz related, with a little classical thrown in. I guess it shows, The jazzy stuff comes through on pretty much everything I do whether I like it or not.
Back when I fancied a chance in selling music, Video games was one of the most open markets for non-professionals. There are actually some great little pieces out there on video games these days.
There are parts of that medley that are right up my alley, the kind of music I make. It makes me want to clean up the ideas and make something a little more serious.
Thanks for listening Pablo.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 02:52
Well you have certainly got to know your new software...
and you know your fretboard.
Which part went down first- the bass or the melody. And did it evolve from one track or was the concept complete when you started recording?
It sounds both impromptu and polished at the same time.
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 08:09
I always start with rhythm guitar, which interestingly is the least audible thing in the mix (this is pretty typical for me). This give both basic harmonic and rhythmic structure. This time the drum loop came first and then rhythm guitar and then experimentation. The runs are pretty much stock scalar things over the chord changes. The melodic elements were actually last, as I tried to make the thing sound a little more musical. I actually then cut sections to add a little dynamics.
It's still a mess. It's more a style I'm trying to evolve into something a little more musical.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:17
How did I miss this?
Anyway, amazing work, as always. Jay, I swear, it takes you a day to come up with something like that, yet it takes me six months to create something even half as good. It's enough to make a guy wanna just quit, sometimes.
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 08:59
Thanks Micah!!!
I've spent many many hours doing home recording, starting with a 4-track over 15 years ago. For a long time it was my only musical outlet. I've done 3 albums now, so hopefully I've learned something over the years.
BTW, this program is called Cakewalk Guitar Tracks Pro 4. For the money, it's an amazing piece of software. Virtual drums, strings, piano, bass, fully MIDI compatible, better effects. I've used earlier versions of this program for all my albums, though in recent years I've been using Cubase.
I have only one major glitch right now which is a minor synchronization issue. Then there are some other things that are less important. But I'm very happy with it. It's basically SONAR with some bells and whistles taken off. But for even a user like me, those bells and whistles are past what I'm doing.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:33
Apologies for getting sidetracked into a Bay City Rollers discussion
I did mean to ask you if you are a fan of Django Reinhardt, as I can hear a flavour of his style in some of the jazzier moments in yer piece ?
The 'growing his missing fingers back' statement was a reference to how the 3rd and 4th fingers of his left hand were rendered useless due to his being burnt in a fire. Whenever I hear Django play (especially with jazz violinst Stephane Grappelli) it sounds as if he actually has 12 fingers - like yourself, an incredible guitarist.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 14:51
Negoba wrote:
Thanks Micah!!!
I've spent many many hours doing home recording, starting with a 4-track over 15 years ago. For a long time it was my only musical outlet. I've done 3 albums now, so hopefully I've learned something over the years.
BTW, this program is called Cakewalk Guitar Tracks Pro 4. For the money, it's an amazing piece of software. Virtual drums, strings, piano, bass, fully MIDI compatible, better effects. I've used earlier versions of this program for all my albums, though in recent years I've been using Cubase.
I have only one major glitch right now which is a minor synchronization issue. Then there are some other things that are less important. But I'm very happy with it. It's basically SONAR with some bells and whistles taken off. But for even a user like me, those bells and whistles are past what I'm doing.
Do they make a Mac-compatible version?
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 16:47
I'm not sure Cakewalk does Mac...I'd have to ask our Mac users. I'm not actually as familiar with Django as I should be. I've listened to some, but not enough.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 00:06
Sonar has always been Windows/Mac.
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 08:18
Let me go look at my literature, because the program I use is a stripped down version of SONAR. The thing I liked best about using this program previously was that you can save a project as a bundle file and then bring it to someone else. For the 3rd album I did, I took the tracks I recorded over months in my basement and had a pro mix and master using SONAR and his better array of plugins and outboard gear.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.