Recommend some stuff to a Prog-Newbie
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Topic: Recommend some stuff to a Prog-Newbie
Posted By: IDDQD
Subject: Recommend some stuff to a Prog-Newbie
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 20:33
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For starts, exclude the obvious such as KC, ELP, Genesis, Yes, Rush,
and so on. Let's say I really, really enjoy the following bands
and you should base your recommendations off of that. Can Comus Faust Gentle Giant Brian Eno Tangerine Dream Algarnas Tradgard Henry Cow Univers Zero Soft Machine Camel Popol Vuh Neu! *VDGG Other bands I'm in the process of checking out, but haven't formed a firm opinion on: Marillion IQ National Health Magma Guru Guru Museo Rosenbach Excalibur Gordian Knot Brainticket Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso Amon Dull II -Thanks. |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 20:46
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Focus: prog/classical/instrumental/fiolk/jazz/rock/vocal The Enid: classical/prog/rock/instrumental/ Twelfth Night: neo-prog with attitude UK: Sounds like Yes/Genesis/EL&P (supergroup) Ekseption: Reworked versions of classical music (mostly) They are FANTASTIC!!!!!!!! Bill Bruford, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever: Jazz-Rock Argent: Rock/prog, Peter Hammill (Van der Graaf), Brand X: Jazz-Rock, Caravan: Camel-related, AMAZING!!!! Eloy: German symphonic prog! Jethro Tull: You allready know, right? Kaipa: Best Swedish prog ever (70's) Isildurs Bane: Real Art-rock/Chamber/jazz Manfred Mann's Earth Band: Rock/prog/jazz/space Mike Oldfield: Instrumental/classical/folk/space/minimalism Egg, Gong: Jazz/prog/canenbury Phillip Glass: Minimalism/classical/instrumental/orchestral Fripp & Eno: You probably know PFM: Amazing Italian prog, like Genesis, Yes, EL&P... Ragnarök (Swe): Instrumental/own style Tribute (Swe): Instrumental/prog/symphonic/jazz/classical/mike oldfield-inspired .....and of course Pink Floyd |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 20:48
Try The Flower Kings, absolutely amazing mellow Progressive Rock that makes your eyes water 
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Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 20:50
| Descriptions will help. Also, I amazingly forgot to mention that I already listen to VDGG (Pawn Hearts is awesome!) |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 20:52
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Ok, see my edit above |
IDDQD wrote:Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 21:01
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Also, if anyone can think of any non-prog, be it post-rock, electronic,
whatever, that would appeal to me, I'd appreciate recommendations. I
also listen to a broad range of Classical Music (the generalized use of
the term, from Baroque to some Modernists), Heavy to Extreme Metal,
*intelligent* techno music (no rave sh*t),Neo-Folk, some underground
Industrial, Celtic Folk, ambient/soundscape, 'loose' ambient, and even
some classic hardcore and early punk music. I tend to gravitate towards
music that not only excites me on a base level, but music that slowly
envelopes the listener over a period of repeated, close listens - music
that challenges perception - music that shows its artistic intent
first, and technique secondly. Checking out music, for me, is a full
time job. If I didn't have a job, and school, and a girl friend, I
would do little else than explore music... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 21:06
Done...
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 21:09
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As a huge DT fanboy, I'm going to say......
LIQUID TENSION EXPERIMENT- As you know, highly technical and most of all highly "emotional" with the w**king part :) Tony Levin is also in it two :) |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 21:13
FANBOY, FANBOY, FANBOY.....LALALALALALALALALALALA, FANBOY, FANBOY...LALALALALA |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 21:18
Hah, if you ever listened to Liquid Tension Experiment from my point of view, its like soiling in your pants to the Images and Words album except 100 times better 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 21:21
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If u ever listen to Tales from topografic oceans from my point of view. u would know that an orgasm isn't the strongest feeling |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 23:53
Everything that include Mike Patton or John Zorn or Les Claypool. Then prog! 
------------- And above all, is punk 
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 00:08
CAMEL - Anything by them 
------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 03:54
I've heard a couple of songs. Mildly amusing. |
Posted By: Henkka
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 03:55
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Opeth - Definitely my favorite band. Prog death metal. Get the albums "Still Life" and "Blackwater Park" for starters, or if you'd like to hear their mellow stuff first and no death metal stuff, get "Damnation". Don't let the death metal brand scare you away, this is probably the most melodic death metal band you'll ever hear. :) Ayreon - New prog from the Dutch multi-instrumentalist Arjen Lucassen. Some albums feature artists you've heard of for sure. Get the album "The Human Equation" for starters, and if you want something a bit more sci-fi, get "Into the Electric Castle", both are excellent concept prog albums. Mellow Candle - Fantastic folk prog. They only made one album, "Swaddling Songs", released in 1972. Two female singers and it all just sounds very pleasant. :) Renaissance - Symphonic prog, featuring male and female vocalists. Great stuff. Get the albums "Turn of the Cards" and "Ashes Are Burning". Klaatu - Awesome prog rock in the vein of Beatles, some still think it's actually Beatles behind this. ;) Get the release "Two Classic Albums from Klaatu", it features both "3:47 E.S.T." and "Hope". Even though they were already recommended in this thread, I'd also like to mention Jethro Tull, Premiata Forneria Marconi (PFM) and Camel. All are wonderful. Get "Songs from the Wood" and "Aqualung" from Jethro, "Per Un Amico" from PFM and "Moonmadness" from Camel for starters. And some non-prog recommendations: October Falls - Acoustic atmospheric folk music from Finland. Only the acoustic, piano and some other instruments can be found here. Beautiful. Only released the albums "Tuoni" and "Marras", I've only heard "Tuoni" so far. Elfonìa - Featuring the singer Marcela Bovio who sang the part of "Wife" on Ayreon's release "The Human Equation". You could almost count it as prog (you can find it in progarchives), but meh, it's not really all that prog to me. But it still is great. Experimental folk with some uh.. mellow metal thing going on.. or something. :) You can even buy a signed copy of their album from their site. Amon Amarth - Some metal for you. I guess this would best be described as Viking metal. :D It doesn't really sound that cheesy, even though the genre could give you that vibe. ;) Get the album "Once Sent From the Golden Hall". Oh, and I'd like some recommendations on Baroque Classical music, and also something beatiful folk type of music with only acoustic or lutes and not much more stuff in it. I'd like to get my hands on the compilation album 'English Lute Duets' but no one seems to have it. :\ Oh well. So, any recommendations? |
Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 03:59
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^I'm not looking for ANY Metal recommendations, since I spent enough of
my life with that genre - doing research, that is. I could probably
list like 40 Swedish Death Metal bands, alone, that I've heard. Amon
Amarth are pretty good. I don't like Opeth at all, too dullards - also,
the Death vox are misplaced. If I want Death Vox, I'll listen to
Demilich, or Brutality. I'll look into the other bands, though. Thanks! NP: Brian Eno - Textures |
Posted By: Henkka
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:01
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Thanks for those recommendations, I'm gonna check out some of that stuff too! |
Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:04
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It's just that I'm a Metal board mainstay, so it would be silly to come here and get Metal recommendations. ;) |
Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:07
| With the exception of TD you've listed the bands I can't seem to be able to get into. However try Arena (symphonic), Porcupine Tree (can't think of a proper label but I listen to PT when I am in a thoughtful mood). Agree with the Ayreon recommendations. |
Posted By: silvertree
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:08
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I'm afraid I disagree with you. Not "anything". I wouldn't recommend I Can See Your House From Here or The Single Factor at first to discover Camel... I think you should check out (as has already been said) Moonmadness and their first three... and then move forward in time. |
Posted By: Progerial
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:13
| two words: ozric tentacles!! psychodellic space rock at it's best. i haven't listened to all of their albums yet but so far, i haven't heard a single bad album |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:13
Well, THANKS ps. Are the pretty girl you??? |
Yes, do so, I hope you find something worthwhile
Posted By: Keke
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:16
I do believe that may be Mikael Akerfeldt. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:22
A kid? In her avator, r u sure??? |
Posted By: Henkka
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:25
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Oh damn, sorry! I'm a retard, I thought your post said that you want recommendations on all those genres you listed. :P Well, I hope you enjoy the rest though. |
Posted By: Henkka
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 04:28
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Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not a girl. ;) That would be Mikael Åkerfeldt of Opeth, like someone already said. Oh, and of those bands you recommended, I'm gonna check out at least Focus, Ekseption and Enid. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 05:16
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For the ignorant masses..........Bo Hansson ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 06:04
No problem, but he looks like a girl. Anyway I've allready have the most lovely girl on the planet earth |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 06:07
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I've got everything he've done, even "Mitt i livet" on Lp and CD-R |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 09:20
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From your list of bands to check out, definitely give Magma a good listen! For a bit of metal I'd suggest, if you've never listened to any doom before, listening to Worship's "Last Vinyl before Doomsday" or "Last CD before Doomsday". I don't know exactly what you'd mean by neo folk since all sorts of stuff related to industrial seems to get called that, but if you're talking about bands like Tenhi, Empyrium, Agalloch (slightly), then have a listen to any of those that you haven't. You said you like modern classical music and two symphonic/gothic groups that draw heavily from modern(ish) opera are Devil Doll, who're in the archives, and Anigizia, who aren't nearly as good but I still like them. http://www.archive.org/audio/netlabels.php - http://www.archive.org/audio/netlabels.php < free ambient/electronica, do a bit of sifting and you may find some gems. For post rock there's a fairly unknown band from London who played a gig local to me called Detwiije. I suppose you'd know what to expect if you've listened to anything like it before, but they do it well. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 09:31
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Camel - Mirage Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear and Brave The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars Twelfth Night - Live at the Target (Fact and Fiction is not really for newbies!) Can - Ege Bamyasi Not on your list, but essential anyway; PFM - Photos of Ghosts King Crimson - Discipline |
Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 12:03
By Neo-Folk, I mean bands such as Sol Invictus, Death in June, Current 93, Darkwood, Of The Wand & The Moon, and Nature & Organisation. I do listen to some Doom Metal, Skepticism, Saint Vitus, Candlemass, Evoken, Disembowelment, Thergothon, Pentagram, Esoteric -- to name a few. I've heard of Worship, but I haven't checked 'em out yet, thanks. I've heard Agalloch one time, but don't remember much about them, other than that they were Metal with folkish melodies and longish compositions. Thanks for all the other info. |
Posted By: Henkka
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 16:26
| Oh yeah, Agalloch is definitely worth checking out. I'd recommend the album "The Mantle". Good and very atmospheric stuff. |
Posted By: Henkka
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 16:28
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Dude. I downloaded a live video of Focus doing the song Hocus Pocus, and damn, that's some crazy sh*t right there. |
Posted By: Dragomir
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 17:02
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Hmmm... perhaps you're interested in modern prog-songs? You could try Spock's Beard (their best album is "5"/"V") or Flower Kings (allthough it's not SOOO modern)> You could try "The Rainmaker"! ------------- If we misunderstood that god made us drift in wood, how can we know before we are there? |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 18:49
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And what Metal board would that be? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 21:23
It makes me happy friend |
Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 23:10
metal-rules.com/bb I don't endorse the views of the site, but the forum community is sometimes worth my while. Although there are enough morons there to get on one's nerves... |
Posted By: RUM26
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 23:08
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i dont know what you guys are talken about LOL
------------- SHEP get with the program |
Posted By: Mr. Floyd
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 23:21
| If you like Metal and Prog AND Folk then try this spanish band ... Mägo de Oz. They're rather good. Vionlin and flute arrangements. For me, musically, they are somme kind of metalized Jethro Tull. But conseptually they are sort of different. The emphasyse more on the depelopping actions more than in the ideas (they don't have Ian Anderosn as songwriter). |
Posted By: magiluke
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 01:21
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Mr. Godmode: As far as intelligent techno is concerned, I've always been a fan of Underworld. They are a very groovy-type electronic band. I endorse them. Fantômas is absolutely right about Mike Patton. And his Abomination picture is cool too. |
Posted By: sonic wizard
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 01:28
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I highly reccomend the band Anubis Spire; get the album Old Lions In a World of Snarling Sheep. It is some of the most amazing guitar work I've ever heard. If you like techno/electronic, pick up St. Germain. They have a definate jazz sound with a techno feel to it. Everyone else's reccomendations sound good. If your not already into it, grab some Dream Theater. ------------- Arguing on the internet is a lot like the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded. |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 01:30
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IDKFA IDCLIP IDCLEV |
Posted By: RUM26
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 20:15
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does your posts have anything to do with stars ------------- SHEP get with the program |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 21:32
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IQ is well worth your time, except Nomzamo. First four Marillion albums are great. ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: RUM26
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 22:18
do any of you remember ivan_2068's signiture, man that was kooky ------------- SHEP get with the program |
Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 22:28
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The CD 801 Live is great for fans of Brian Eno's pop material.
------------- If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud! |
Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 00:34
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 04:07
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Embryo (a band that deserves a lot more attention and has a big output.
Hardly anyone ever mentions them or even seems to know them. One of
the most important bands in Krautrock). Gong and Mother Gong. High Tide. Continue your exploration of Magma, Guru Guru, Amon Düül II and National Health. Try the British Amon Düül too (their records are "Hawk Meets Penguin", "Meetings with Men Machines - Unremarkable Heroes of the Past", "Die Lösung" and "Fool Moon"). Hatfield and the North. Egg. Matching Mole. Gryphon. Hawkwind. To give you a start. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Jools
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 07:51
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Anathema, Porcupine Tree and Amplifier. None are metal but have enough crunch to satisfy the cravings. None are strictly prog but have enough tension and dynamic and extended arrangements to reward repeated listenings. None are strictly ambient but textured sounds and feeling of proximity are essential. ------------- Ridicule is the burden of genius. |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 10:25
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Anekdoten - mellotrons, dark moods Rufus Zuphall - Krautrock |
Posted By: progreviews
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 10:38
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Yo IDDQD (nice name - brings back memories )
With no offense to the folks offering recommendations, I feel like some of them are off-base. Your list of bands includes ONE symph band (Camel), yet some of recommendations have been pretty much proggy-prog symphonic rock (Flower Kings?!?). Weird. Based on your tastes I would say you MUST give Magma a shot, and also Present (who were formed by Roger Trigaux, formerly of Univers Zero, and are AMAZING - try High Infidelity). Also, since you like Henry Cow, try Art Bears, who kind of do the Henry Cow (circa In Praise of Listening) thing minus the improv and with concise, short song-form compositions and lots of Dagmar. I'll run with the RIO thread, given that you like UZ and Henry Cow, and recommend a few of the modern bands that are sort of along similar lines: Thinking Plague - try any of them; I started with In Extremis U Totem - the self-titled first is a masterpiece - sounds somewhat like Henry Cow's Western Culture French TV - wacky American prog kind of like Samla Mammas Manna but with more of a fusion bent. The Violence of Amateurs is easily their best IMHO. Don't know much about Krautrock, but you should definitely pursue Guru Guru and Amon Duul II. Also try Boredoms from Japan - Vision Creation Newsun is a great tribal freakout in the best Krautrock tradition. In general I feel like many of the bands on the Cuneiform label ( http://www.cuneiformrecords.com/ - cuneiformrecords.com ) would appeal to you, since the owner of this label is a monstrous fan of Soft Machine, Canterbury in general, UZ, RIO in general, and the kind of stuff you listed in general. Great label. Hope these are helpful! ------------- http://www.progreviews.com/"> 
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Posted By: Retroventuremod
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 21:40
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Traffic - Mr. Fantasy, it takes a couple of listens to get into it, at
first I was like "why the hell did i buy this!" but i've been listening
to it constantly after deciding to give it a second go
------------- I asked Bobby Dylan I asked the Beatles I asked Timothy Leary But he couldn't help me either They call me the seeker THE WHO! |