"What if" He joined a group
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Topic: "What if" He joined a group
Posted By: two steves
Subject: "What if" He joined a group
Date Posted: December 04 2009 at 21:44
| LOT'S OF CHANGES IN YES AS PEOPLE QUIT OR WERE FORCED OUT OR NOT INVITED IN---I HAVE WONDERED WHAT IF---LIKE WHAT WOULD GATES BATTLE SOUND LIKE IF VANGELIS JOINED (NUCLEOGENESIS PART 2 ---PERHAPS) SO---WHAT WOULD YOU MOST LIKE TO HEAR IF YOU COULD OR MAYBE WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAVE TURNED OUT BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL? |
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 04 2009 at 21:53
| I was tempted to say Vangelis on Relayer for curiosity about how that would have worked, but I guess the reason Vangelis didn't join was the right reason: the stiles weren't quiet so compatible; and the end result with Moraz instead of Vangelis was unbeatable (Gates of Delirium!!!) If Squire had been around for ABWH then it wouldn't have been ABWH at all, ofcourse, instead it would have been a reunion of the very best incarnation of Yes, and that would have been fantastic, so I voted for this option (though surely they wouldn't have hit the height they achieved on Frigile and CttE). |
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: December 04 2009 at 23:55
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Agree 100% with Dellinger....If Squire had been on ABWH then that would have been Yes, in the most classical line-up, and I bet the album (ABWH) would have been even better...
------------- To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica) |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 04:34
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Squire on ABWH to make the line-up complete. The other options are hardly an improvement, or not at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 04:37
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The only reason why ABWH wasn't called Yes is because of a legal matter, so Anderson on Drama takes the cake for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 06:03
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Moraz on GFTO ------------- http://mlyk.bandcamp.com/ |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 06:43
| WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR IF YOU COULD LEARN TO NOT TYPE IN UPPER CASE FOR AN ENTIRE POST. |
Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 07:52
| Anderson on Drama - Shame on You......I chose Squire....... |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 08:29
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Bruford on tales
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 06 2009 at 00:35
I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU'RE TYPING BECAUSE THE THE OTHER GUY TYPED ALL IN CAPS!  By the way, you can actually hear Jon Anderson on Drama if you get the remaster which has bonus tracks where he and Wakeman do some rehearsal tracks before they split. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: December 06 2009 at 02:04
------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 14:39
| Buford |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 14:51
Thanks for another non-contribution to a thread about classic prog. |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 14:53
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Bruford in Relayer -------------  |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 14:56
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Eddy Offord on ABWH. The sound on that album is bordering on unlistenable. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: amwvb
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 15:18
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Squire on ABWH because, as mentioned earlier, that would have been CttE Yes ------------- Guitar: Ibanez AS100 |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 16:23
Good call, but that's mainly due to the drum sound. This is an interesting poll actually, I would have to go for Squire on ABWH. The others are interesting ideas but I certainly wouldn't replace Moraz on Gates, he did a brilliant job there. How about Wakeman on Time and A Word as an option? |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 16:30
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No way Squire on ABWH, I believe Levin is far a better bassist than Chris (Who is already outstanding)
I would vote Moraz in Going for the One.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 17:53
At least he usually says things that make sense and add to teh discussion, unlike you who in every non-classic-prog thread only say "post 89 rock is garbage".... ------------- 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 22:10
I read an interview with Levin about his playing with different bands and artists. He said that when he was playing for Peter Gabriel, he was given The Lamb lies down on Broadway to listen and he was like very cool music. When he joined King Crimson he was given another album (I don't remember which) and just the same he liked it a lot. But when he was going to play for ABWH, he was given Close to the Edge, and he was just like he didn't know how the **** he was going to play the beginning to that song. He then was asked if he had liked the song, and he said he had been too worried about playing it to think wether he liked it or not. In the end he had to invent some weird techinque in order to give the song an adequate sound. |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 22:18
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Anderson on Drama, definitely. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 23:38
Lets be honest The Lamb (The track), is probably one of the simplest ones of the album, more if you listen the Peter Gabriel solo version (Rockpalast Rocknight September 15, 1978) which is more Rock than Prog.
I don't believe Close to the Edge is as complex as most King Crimson music, probably Levin feel more cofortable with the music
I heard CttE in the ABWH tour and it's simply amazing version, but a musician who can adapt his playing to Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, etc, has to be absolutely versatile,
I consider Tony the best living bass player (his competitors Entwistle and Gary Thain passed already).
But that's my opinion
Iván -------------
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 00:24
| Maybe Bruford would have straightened Tales out a little. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 22:35
What do you mean by hearing the ABWH tour? Did you attend, or hear the album or the DVD? I mean, Tony Levin, unfortunatly, doesn't play in the ABWH live album, but I don't know wether you mean the album or some other source... |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 22:38
| By the way, the interviw is in the Yes page, notes from the edge, (nfte.org), you go to Archives, and at the end of the page is a list of interviews with several Yes related people, there's only one interview with Tony Levin. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 22:49
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I guess Bruford on Tales, but I don't think that could salvage the album for me. Alan is a great drummer anyway. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 23:03
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VANGELIS ON RELAYER Oh God yes! ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 23:42
Yes, I know Jeff Berlin appears in the album and DVD, but I had the luck to see them on August 1989 in NY, remember the month because it was close to my sister's birthday and she was pissed that I didn't went to dinner with her.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 22:37
I'm envious. I would have loved to see yes with Wakeman (well, this wasn't exactly Yes, but it's just the same anyway), but I didn't know them back then (I was too young and barely knew any music at all). Even the last time Yes toured with Wakeman I was barely beginning to know them (2003 or 2004? something like that). I wish the recorded show from the tour had been one with Levin, though. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 23:08
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Well, the only time I saw Yes with Wakemanand Squire together was in the "Onion" tour, and I found it a bit disappointing (still good though).
But it pisses me more having only seeen Genesis once in the "Invisible Touch Tour"...That was terrible, never had the chance to see them with Gabriel and/or Hackett.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 22:02
| Why oh why has the union tour DVD not been released? I would love to see/hear that. Well, I've seen it on You Tube, but it's not quiet the same. Now, why was it a dissapointment? |
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 12:24
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Patrick Moraz on Going for the One. As good as the album turned out, re-hiring Wakeman was a step backward: more a 'regressive' than a 'progressive' personel move. And I've always thought Chris Squire's justification was sorta tacky, something like, "well, how many Swiss rock stars are there?" Clearly it was a strictly mercenary decision. Maybe Moraz wasn't as congenial a person (or as famous a star) as Wakeman, but his performance on Relayer was phenomenal. Imagine what he could have done with Awaken (and didn't he have some compositional input there before being fired?) ------------- "we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 22:55
| I don't think I would have liked better Awaken with Moraz. That song's just awsome the way it is, and Wakeman did a superb job in it. The piano at the beginning and the organ in the middle are perfect, and I don't think it would have been good to change them (well, Wakeman himself did perfect them on later live versions, as far as I'm concerned). |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 01:00
| Bruford on Tales. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 00:41
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Yesterday's night on a reunion at a friend's house we listened Drama after some time, I wouldn't change a song or a member of the band. Fantastic album. Iván
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 14:11
| As much as any of these would be interesting, I'm going to go off the menu and say Jobson on 90125. |