A bit of cleanup in Transatlantic
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Topic: A bit of cleanup in Transatlantic
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Subject: A bit of cleanup in Transatlantic
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 16:39
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1343 - This album does not belong, as it is just a limited edition of the album right next to it. Also, their Roine Stolt Mixes version of SMPT:e makes me a little unsure as well. I understand that it is a separate entity from the regular SMPT:e, however, does it necessarily belong in studio albums? It probably fits best in the category it's in, but I figured I'd raise it as a point. Any thoughts? ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 16:57
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I agree , it could all be put under the ome album.
Not sure about the Roine Stolte mix though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:02
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Bump on account of no moderator action or further discussion. Thoughts? -------------
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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 02:07
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Um, what about to ask Mike ? I myself don't know where to put them, but remember, they were considered as USA group for certain amount of time, before somebody changed it recently, so you may be right. Errors happen, but how to recognize error, or how to support your claims, that's the question. More people needed. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:02
I will sort them out, and put up the linjks for deletion. I hadn't forgotten.....well maybe I had a bit.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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LiquidEternity wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:12
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Ok, done it and now we await deletion. Not sure abouit the Stlote mix tho... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:28
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Just been informeed that it can't be deleted, because the special edition has reviews. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:34
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We can't delete albums that have reviews attached without losing the reviews. We do not have the facility to move the reviews.
This problem is further complicated where two solo artists colaborate and the album gets added twice - then decide to create a band entry for the duo but can't because that would add the album a third time, (see Fripp & Sylvian) ------------- What? |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 07:12
| ^ hey Dean, I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I've moved reviews by going on the admins page and typing in the review number under edit review and when the review comes up you change the album ID at the top of the page. We had two entries for Soft Machine Legacy and I'm pretty sure I moved one review and deleted one of the entries. At least that's how I remember it. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 07:13
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We used to be able to do that, but the field is read only now.
(I'll give it a try anyway) ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 07:17
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...and failed. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 07:20
| huh ... 'we used to be able to do that' is probably what happened, oh well. |
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 08:10
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Well, nuts. You guys can't move reviews any longer? That's a bummer. I mean, I can move albums myself, but it was the currently existing reviews I was having trouble with. I guess all that's left is PMing the folks who wrote reviews and asking them to take their own time to consolidate so that we can clean up the page.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 28 2009 at 02:44
| Unfortunately, moving reviews screws up the ratings calculations. mailto:M@x - M@x will need to do some development work to resolve this. Meanwhile, the earlier we catch such situations, the easier it is to resolve them. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 28 2009 at 02:51
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^ Just noticed that we couldn't move some of the reviews and ratings even if the facility were there - some people have reviewed/rated both versions. ------------- What? |
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 28 2009 at 18:58
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Just curious if anything is happening here. It's messing with my OCD! Also, I would vote to put in the EPs/singles/fan club/etc. category another listing, something like "alternate versions." That way, English copies of PFM's releases don't confuse the heck out of everybody who doesn't speak Italian in addition to their English--and that way the Roine Stolt Mixes will have somewhere they actually belong. I have lots of mildly helpful but likely incredibly problematic ideas to share. Sorry. -------------
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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 21:01
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Also, The Flower Kings have two entries for The Rainmaker, one being an illegitimate listing of a deluxe edition.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 07:23
I think I already reported this, same problem though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: November 21 2009 at 22:57
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Because I don't know where else to put these (and because the original intent of the thread wouldn't hurt to be bumped), there are three duplicate studio albums on Henry Cow's page--and they only had four studio albums in the first place. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=608 I'm sure plenty of people have seen this before, and some may have commented. Are they staying for any good reason? I think they should be consolidated with the original release pages. I'm willing to do the modification for the albums' track listing and release notes if someone with proper pull does the rest of the legwork (provided, of course, that existing reviews don't bar them from doing so). -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 06:59
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I'll check it out later!
EDIT. Just realised that I noticed this a few days ago myself. Problem is reviews again. But it is such a shame. Ruins the dicography completely. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 07:46
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We just need to ask those people who reviewed them to resubmit their reviews to the proper ablum. I'm not so bothered by the ratings only as several are duplicated on both versions. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 08:03
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I understand Dean, but is a long and bothersome process. Can't M@x come up with something so you can move them? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 09:28
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I have asked in the past... it will take me a while to find the answer (I know is was No, but I can't remember the reason) ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 09:31
Ok...meanwhile I'll get in touich with the reviewers. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 09:39
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This Henry Cow Leg End original mix...what is it? http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3064 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3064 not a remaster? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:04
These were the original LP mixes that were reissued by ReR a few years back. Prior to that there were alternative mixes of Leg End, Unrest, and In Praise of Learning that were issued by East Side Digital in the early 1990s. I've only heard the two versions of In Praise of Learning and I can attest that they are quite different. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:10
Thanks. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:12
I have suggested already...Boxsets, compilations and Alternative Releases. What do you think? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:33
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^ I remember now we've had this Henry Cow discussion before (before the 40th Anniversary box-set fiasco).
Certainly Ian's suggestion would clean up The Beatles and Henry Cow, but could make a total mess (well a different kind of mess) of Yes and still not help Rick Wakeman very much. I think it would also invite too many unsolicited additions of albums with regional bonus tracks. Just about every release now-a-days comes as a limited edition digipak and from a collector's point of view it would be nice to have those documented separately. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 11:31
Yes but with bonus tracks we would do as now, and add the info to the basic album release, making only the one entry into the database. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: November 22 2009 at 21:00
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I stand behind Snow Dog on this one. What is the problem it would create with Yes? I mean, aside from the fancier remaster versions with the bonus tracks, which could not be included as a different version according to current rules, why would having a subcategory as handy as "Alternative Releases" bungle Yes? -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 04:50
I have asked people to move their Henry Cow reviews, so far one person has, but I'm worried about this Leg End (Original Mix). Seems a perfect one to go to an Alternative release category. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 05:02
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I have changed the details of Leg End, what do you think? http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3058 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3058 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 06:48
| Good work Ian. |