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Topic: 10 Albums For Someone New
Posted By: The Switch Blade
Subject: 10 Albums For Someone New
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 13:43
If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"


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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 13:49
The first six you mentioned, plus:

07. Crucis- Crucis/Los Delirios del Mariscal
08. King Crimson- Discipline
09. Marillion- Misplaced Childhood
10. Genesis- Selling England by the Pound


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 15:53
01. Yes - Close To The Edge
02. King Crimson - Lizard
03. Genesis - Nursery Cryme
04. Jethro Tull - nearly any anthology
05. Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Trilogy
06. Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti
07. Roxy Music - Roxy Music
08. Magma - Attahk
09. This Heat - Deceit
10. Univers Zéro - 1313

But that's a just personal opinion...


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:34
It totally depends where they're at, if they're interested in prog, they've probably already heard some and liked it. You go from there. The staple entry points are not necessarily the big albums. I would hand a beginner Fragile or the Yes Album before CTTE. Similarly, Aqualung is a much better entry album than TAAB, and SEBtP better than Foxtrot and especially the Lamb.
 
Damnation, Awake, Second Life Syndrome, Crack the Skye are excellent metal entry points. In Abstentia is not a bad example of modern prog.
 
The old schtick of giving Univers Zero and Magma to newbies....I guess it's still funny.
 
 


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:59
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

The old schtick of giving Univers Zero and Magma to newbies....I guess it's still funny.


Well, my father told me once that I would enjoy Magma: I was a 15 year-old metalhead. And I think Henry Cow or Art Zoyd are much harder to get into than Magma and UZ (of course, I won't even talk about giving Kluster to a newbie).


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:09
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Yes - The Yes Album
Genesis - Foxtrot
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Jethro Tull - Stand Up
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent
Camel - Mirage


Posted By: paulwalker71
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:10
in no particular order

Genesis 'Selling England by the pound'
Yes 'Close to the Edge'
Marillion 'Misplaced Childhood'
ELP 'Brain Salad Surgery'
Frank Zappa 'One size fits all'
Pink Floyd 'Dark side of the moon'
Dream Theatrer 'Images and Words'
The Flower Kings 'Unfold the future'
The Enid 'Aerie Fairie Nonsense'
Transatlantic  SMPT



Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:16
Tarkus
The Yes Album
Meddle
Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Pictures at an Exhibition
Birds of Fire
Crossings
Hemispheres
Octopus
Thick as a Brick




Posted By: paulwalker71
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:23
Hmmm.... in retrospect my 10 would need to include some Rush - how could I have left them out...

For a totalnewbie it would be Moving Picture, for some a bit more clued-up probably A Farewell to Kings Smile


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:10
Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"


interesting.... but too anglo-centric... PT has no place there..  what is 'progressive' about them.  We can kick the decayed corpse of DT and ask just what is progressive about them... they have been making the same album for 10 years hahha.  Complex music doesn't make it prog.. much less progressive.

I'd spread the wealth... if they are into 'progressive music'  where is the vast wealth of music from Germany.


again though... progressive v. prog... a shame the two don't mean the same.   They should...  but someone had to genrify  prog and make complex synonymous with progressive.   What bunch of sh*t that is hahha.


I'll take a stab of course....

1. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans ( all bases are covered.. and  the shear scope of the album has never been approached.  Bands are too worried about pleasing fans.. and selling albums see DT)

2. ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition  (debatable if it was a successful attempt to merge classical with rock music.  But it is the one to start with.... )

3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (teach our young prog newbie early on that you don't have to be English.. or rock the house ... to be prog.. or progressive)

4.  Radiohead - OK Computer ( modern prog...  which was progessive... prog.. and just as importantly.. not ripping off what others did best 30 years ago)

5. Magma - Kobaia ( you can't have a top 10 albums for a prog newbie without including Magma... probably the most unique band in prog and once they hear them.. they'll be hooked. .and as I posted in my review.. THIS is the album for the newbie)

6. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (as much as I hate giving this band props.. this album was one song short of absolute perfection.. and a prog newbie probably has little clue that Genesis existed before stinking up the 80's)

7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)

8. Osanna - Palepoli ( call me a homer... but I'd bet everything I own.. that if Osanna were from England.. all the blinkered fans who equate prog with England would be sh*tting their pants over the album. It's that good.. that prog.. that progressive.. and it doesn't hurt that it rocks harder than any of the stuff in Prog Metal)

9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries ( a prog metal album so good.. even those who have made an internet career throwing sh*t at prog-metal ... love it to death. )

10.  Can -Tago Mago  (make a top 10 list without Can...  and you should be demoted to prog newbie yourself. Not my favorite from them.. but this one is the most essential.  The Krautrock starter) 


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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:32
Why not?
 
1. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
2. Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
3. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
4. Pink Floyd - Meddle
5. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey and Pink
6. Rush - A Farewell to Kings
7. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
8. Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory
9. King Crimson - Red
10. And for something newer - The Tangent - A Place In The Queue
 
 


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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:46
10- Le Orme's Uomo di Pezza
9- Änglagård's Hybris
9- Univers Zero's Hérésie
8- Caravan's In the Land of Grey and Pink
8- Miles Davis' Bitches Brew
7- Genesis' Selling England by the Pound
7- Frank Zappa's Hot Rats
6- Dün - Eros
5- Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick
4- Van Der Graaf Generator's Godbluff
4- Gentle Giant's Free Hand
3- Pink Floyd's Animals
2- Genesis' Foxtrot
1- Yes' Close to the Edge


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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:17
1. Marillion Brave
2. Genesis Selling England By The Pound
3. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever
4. Dream Theater Scenes From A Memory
5. Kansas Leftoverture
6. Camel The Snowgoose
7. Yes Close To The Edge
8. The Flower Kings Paradox Hotel
9. Spock's Beard Snow
10. Riverside Anno Domini High Definition

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:25
1. YES - Relayer
2. Genesis - Nursery Cryme
3. YES - Close To The Edge
4. Porcupine Tree - IN ABSENTIA
5. Peter Gabriel - UP
6. Marillion - Marbles
7. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
8. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
9. Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun
10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon

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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:48
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

1. YES - Relayer
2. Genesis - Nursery Cryme
3. YES - Close To The Edge
4. Porcupine Tree - IN ABSENTIA
5. Peter Gabriel - UP
6. Marillion - Marbles
7. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
8. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
9. Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun
10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
 
Weird list. Two Marillion, two Porcupine Tree, Peter Gabriel?


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:00
^^

^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums...

...And I just love Peter Gabriel


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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:08
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^

^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums...

...And I just love Peter Gabriel
 
I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)
As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:12
this is hard!

Yes - Fragile
Genesis - Selling England
KC - In the Court
ELP - s/t
Hatfield and the North - s/t
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
RTF - Romantic Warrior
SMM - Maltid



Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:16
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^ ^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums... ...And I just love Peter Gabriel

 

I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)

As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile


Fair enough...

But not on FOABP - I can't really see anything amazing in FOABP, other than the last 6 minutes of ANESTHETIZE and SENTIMENTAL aswell...

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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:36
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^ ^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums... ...And I just love Peter Gabriel

 

I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)

As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile


Fair enough...

But not on FOABP - I can't really see anything amazing in FOABP, other than the last 6 minutes of ANESTHETIZE and SENTIMENTAL aswell...
 
What about the Sky Moves Sideways then?


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:38
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^ ^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums... ...And I just love Peter Gabriel

 

I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)

As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile
Fair enough... But not on FOABP - I can't really see anything amazing in FOABP, other than the last 6 minutes of ANESTHETIZE and SENTIMENTAL aswell...

 

What about the Sky Moves Sideways then?


Their best, easily, but I wouldn't reccomend it to a new listener of Porcupine Tree or Prog.

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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:44
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^ ^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums... ...And I just love Peter Gabriel

 

I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)

As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile
Fair enough... But not on FOABP - I can't really see anything amazing in FOABP, other than the last 6 minutes of ANESTHETIZE and SENTIMENTAL aswell...

 

What about the Sky Moves Sideways then?


Their best, easily, but I wouldn't reccomend it to a new listener of Porcupine Tree or Prog.
 
Why not?


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:45
^^Its alot less accessible than their other albums... Its great, but it takes more consideration than their other albums in my opinion.

Still unmissable, and who knows, it might turn someone on to prog

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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:51
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^Its alot less accessible than their other albums... Its great, but it takes more consideration than their other albums in my opinion.

Still unmissable, and who knows, it might turn someone on to prog
 
That's what I think. What about Opeth? I'd recommend Still Life or Ghost Reveries


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:54
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^Its alot less accessible than their other albums... Its great, but it takes more consideration than their other albums in my opinion. Still unmissable, and who knows, it might turn someone on to prog

 

That's what I think. What about Opeth? I'd recommend Still Life or Ghost Reveries


I only have DAMNATION, DELIVERANCE, STILL LIFE and BLACKWATER PARK...

For a beginner, I'd reccomend BLACKWATER PARK and STILL LIFE

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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:59
^  Still Life is probably their best! Smile
But get Ghost Reveries. It's as good as Still Life (or almost)


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 21:01
It's really hard to sum up every different "flavour" of prog into a 10 album list, but I would try to expose someone to as many different genres as possible.

Caravan - In the Land of the Grey and Pink
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Rush - Permanent Waves
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire
Can - Tago Mago
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Henry Cow - Western Culture
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Genesis - Selling England by the Pound

Even though I tried to space out my selections I still didn't cover any modern bands or metal, although I don't really know any metal anyways. I know that some of the ones I picked are the top album in there genre but they seem to me to be the best representatives of the genre they are from.


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 21:58
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

^  Still Life is probably their best! Smile
But get Ghost Reveries. It's as good as Still Life (or almost)


Thanks - I'll grab it sometime soon


-Joel

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 22:09
this is not very helpful. everyone's got a different idea of what albums are best for newbies. Although i agree with whoever said that the BIG albums are not necessarily the best ones to start out with (ex. Fragile or Yes Album over Close to the Edge)

but again, depends on the person. maybe they like classical music, and rock music, but never knew progressive rock existed. Someone gives them a copy of CttE and they crap themselves at how good the music is and cant believe theyve never heard of any of it before.

as a prog rock fan, i can say it was a slow (not too slow though) process, becoming a fan of all this music, what with being exposed to even so much more at the same time.


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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 22:24

In my opinion, you first need to start with more accesible things, maybe even Prog-related stuff, and work your way up to the more classic albums. Rule of thumb: Don't start with Pink Floyd! My friends at least, thought it was boring and gave up on prog immeadiately



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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 03:53
Selling England
Going for the One
Discipline
Songs from the wood
10.000 days
Deadwing
(')
Prog related :
Crime or Breakfirst (supertramp)
Houses of the Holy
 
Think most people interested in music would like something outa this pole
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 03:54
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

In my opinion, you first need to start with more accesible things, maybe even Prog-related stuff, and work your way up to the more classic albums. Rule of thumb: Don't start with Pink Floyd! My friends at least, thought it was boring and gave up on prog immeadiately

Yes, i tried to pick from the "easy" end

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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 05:38
OK, if I were talking to somebody new who wanted a list of prog albums to listen to, I'd probably refer him to the progarchives top rated album list and then tell him to omit all of the Floyd albums.
 
But if he didn't trust that, then I'd go with this.
 
1.  Close to the Edge -- Yes
2.  Selling England by the Pound -- Genesis
3.  Permanent Waves -- Rush
4.  Space Revolver -- The Flower Kings
5.  Mirage -- Camel
6.  Captain Beyond -- Captain Beyond
7.  Spectral Mornings -- Steve Hackett
8.  Per Un Amico -- PFM
9.  UK -- UK
10.  Red -- King Crimson


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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 09:34
It would be something like this... though I'm not completely sure. I think this list shows most of the different sides of prog, though there's of course much more to be discovered after these albums.

1. Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
2. H to He, Who Am The Only One - VDGG
3. Foxtrot - Genesis
4. Close To the edge - Yes
5. Songs From The Wood - Jethro Tull
6. Permanent Waves - Rush
7. Larks' Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson
8. Deadwing - Porcupine Tree
9. Lateralus - Tool
10. Free Hand - Gentle Giant


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Posted By: markodream
Date Posted: September 06 2009 at 14:06
   1.pink froyd;dark side of the spoon:
   2;dream thunder;imegares and wreads:
   3;king creamsons;inte spourt of the creamsons king:
   4;opeth;watersheader:
   5;dreaming theaters:six deegres of outer space:



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Posted By: Mladen_Serbia
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 13:22
1. Pink Floyd - Dark side of the moon
2. Yes - Close to the edge
3. Genesis - Nursery cryme
4. King Crimson - In the court of the Crimson King
5. Camel - Mirage
6. Gentle Giant - In a glass house
7. Van der Graaf generator - Pawn hearts
8. Rush - 2112
9. Dream Theater - Images and words
10. Symphony X - Divine wings of tragedy


Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 14:05
Yes - Fragile
Rush - Permanent Waves
King Crimson - Islands
Jethro Tull - Aqualung
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear
ELP - Tarkus
Genesis - Foxtrot
Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink


Posted By: geddyx12112
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 14:41
1. Yes-- Close to the Edge
2. Porcupine Tree-- Fear of a Blank Planet
3. Rush-- Permanent Waves
4. King Crimson-- In the Wake of Poseidon
5. Dream Theater-- Images and Words
6. Jethro Tull-- thick as a Brick
7. Queensryche-- Operation: Mindcrime
8. Renaissance-- Turn of the Cards
9. ELP-- Emerson, Lake and Palmer
10. VDGG: H to He who am the only one

I tried to cover most of the niches of prog, because someone new would want to learn a bit about the metal side as well as the symphonic side of prog and so on and put some recent and older albums on there for the same reason.


Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 14:49
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

10- Le Orme's Uomo di Pezza
9- Änglagård's Hybris
9- Univers Zero's Hérésie
8- Caravan's In the Land of Grey and Pink
8- Miles Davis' Bitches Brew
7- Genesis' Selling England by the Pound
7- Frank Zappa's Hot Rats
6- Dün - Eros
5- Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick
4- Van Der Graaf Generator's Godbluff
4- Gentle Giant's Free Hand
3- Pink Floyd's Animals
2- Genesis' Foxtrot
1- Yes' Close to the Edge
 
LIST EDITED


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira

- Paul Éluard


Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:18
Genesis - Foxtrot
Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste
Magma - Wudah Itah
Comus - First Utterance
Bacamarte - Depois do Fim
Dun - Eros
Anglagard - Hybris
Yezda Urfa - Boris
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona


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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:04
You know, it really does depend where this "someone new" is, musically. For instance, I tried this very thing on a friend of mine recently who's into the heavier rock that gets airplay. So i suggested some Mastodon and I handed him Dream Theater, SFaM. It worked.
 
But for the overall intro to prog rock? I'd have to choose:
 
Rush - Moving Pictures
Yes - Fragile
King Crimson - ITCotCK
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
and a few others.
 
When it comes to this, you just can't beat the tried and true classics, IMO.
 


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:13
I'd give them a little bit of every type of prog. Some symphonic, some prog metal, a little bit of RIO, some psych and some progressive death metal.

In no particular order:

1. Close to the Edge- Yes
2. Still Life- Opeth
3. Scenes From A Memory- Dream Theater
4. Foxtrot- Genesis
5. Snow- Spock's Beard
6. Wish You Were Here- Pink Floyd
7. Hot Rats- Frank Zappa
8. Abbey Road- The Beatles
9. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:18
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I'd give them a little bit of every type of prog. Some symphonic, some prog metal, a little bit of RIO, some psych and some progressive death metal.

In no particular order:

1. Close to the Edge- Yes
2. Still Life- Opeth
3. Scenes From A Memory- Dream Theater
4. Foxtrot- Genesis
5. Snow- Spock's Beard
6. Wish You Were Here- Pink Floyd
7. Hot Rats- Frank Zappa
8. Abbey Road- The Beatles
9. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile


There's no RIO there, Zappa is Avant, and that album by him is Jazz RockWink


Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:24
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile
 
Evil Smile I second that  Clap


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:26
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I'd give them a little bit of every type of prog. Some symphonic, some prog metal, a little bit of RIO, some psych and some progressive death metal.

In no particular order:

1. Close to the Edge- Yes
2. Still Life- Opeth
3. Scenes From A Memory- Dream Theater
4. Foxtrot- Genesis
5. Snow- Spock's Beard
6. Wish You Were Here- Pink Floyd
7. Hot Rats- Frank Zappa
8. Abbey Road- The Beatles
9. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile


There's no RIO there, Zappa is Avant, and that album by him is Jazz RockWink


I originally had Sleepytime Gorilla Museum in there, but then I got rid of it, but forgot to edit the top.


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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 07:23

If the idea is not to be too challenging then we may steer clear of Magma, Gentle Giant and Comus.

Dark Side of the Moon
ELP
Caravanserai
The Valentyne Suite
Grave New World
In and out of Focus
Atom Heart Mother
Stand Up
A Question of Balance
The Snow Goose
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 19:36
Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"
 The first 4 that you mentioned plus numbers 6 and 8.
 
#5 Octavarium- Dream Theater
#7 Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
#9 The Kindness to Strangers- Spocks Beard
#10 V- Spocks Beard
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Posted By: Horny Watermelon
Date Posted: September 17 2009 at 10:11
Images and Words- Dream Theater
The Human Equation- Ayreon
Colors- Between the Buried and me
Foxtrot- Genesis
In a Flesh Aquarium- Unexpect
A Gentleman's Hurricane- Mind's Eye
Sola Scriptura- Neal Morse
Remedy Lane- Porcupine Tree
Second Life Syndrome- Riverside
Bridge Across Forever- Transatlantic

I think that covers a nice range of prog, maybe add in a little LTE to cement the instrumental side


Posted By: markodream
Date Posted: September 20 2009 at 15:11
   awake-dream theater
  opeth-watershed
  slayer-god hates us all
  korni grupa-put za istok
 indexi-modra rijeka
 king crimson-in the court of king crimson
 megadeth-simphony of destruction
 metropolis 2-dream theater
 on an island-david gilmour
 


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Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: September 20 2009 at 16:46
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"


interesting.... but too anglo-centric... PT has no place there..  what is 'progressive' about them.  We can kick the decayed corpse of DT and ask just what is progressive about them... they have been making the same album for 10 years hahha.  Complex music doesn't make it prog.. much less progressive.

I'd spread the wealth... if they are into 'progressive music'  where is the vast wealth of music from Germany.


again though... progressive v. prog... a shame the two don't mean the same.   They should...  but someone had to genrify  prog and make complex synonymous with progressive.   What bunch of sh*t that is hahha.


I'll take a stab of course....

1. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans ( all bases are covered.. and  the shear scope of the album has never been approached.  Bands are too worried about pleasing fans.. and selling albums see DT)

2. ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition  (debatable if it was a successful attempt to merge classical with rock music.  But it is the one to start with.... )

3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (teach our young prog newbie early on that you don't have to be English.. or rock the house ... to be prog.. or progressive)

4.  Radiohead - OK Computer ( modern prog...  which was progessive... prog.. and just as importantly.. not ripping off what others did best 30 years ago)

5. Magma - Kobaia ( you can't have a top 10 albums for a prog newbie without including Magma... probably the most unique band in prog and once they hear them.. they'll be hooked. .and as I posted in my review.. THIS is the album for the newbie)

6. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (as much as I hate giving this band props.. this album was one song short of absolute perfection.. and a prog newbie probably has little clue that Genesis existed before stinking up the 80's)

7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)

8. Osanna - Palepoli ( call me a homer... but I'd bet everything I own.. that if Osanna were from England.. all the blinkered fans who equate prog with England would be sh*tting their pants over the album. It's that good.. that prog.. that progressive.. and it doesn't hurt that it rocks harder than any of the stuff in Prog Metal)

9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries ( a prog metal album so good.. even those who have made an internet career throwing sh*t at prog-metal ... love it to death. )

10.  Can -Tago Mago  (make a top 10 list without Can...  and you should be demoted to prog newbie yourself. Not my favorite from them.. but this one is the most essential.  The Krautrock starter) 



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 13:32
Selling England by the pound - Genesis
Red - King Crimson
Going for the one - Yes
In Absentia - Porcupine Tree
Moving Pictures - Rush
Wish you were here - Pink Floyd
Songs from the wood - Jethro Tull
Erpland - Ozric Tentacles
Damnation - Opeth
Ok Computer - Radiohead

A reasonably accessable mixture of albums to break them in gently, and if that wins them over I'll hit them with some VDGG and GG..


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 13:50
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"


interesting.... but too anglo-centric... PT has no place there..  what is 'progressive' about them.  We can kick the decayed corpse of DT and ask just what is progressive about them... they have been making the same album for 10 years hahha.  Complex music doesn't make it prog.. much less progressive.

I'd spread the wealth... if they are into 'progressive music'  where is the vast wealth of music from Germany.


again though... progressive v. prog... a shame the two don't mean the same.   They should...  but someone had to genrify  prog and make complex synonymous with progressive.   What bunch of sh*t that is hahha.


I'll take a stab of course....

1. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans ( all bases are covered.. and  the shear scope of the album has never been approached.  Bands are too worried about pleasing fans.. and selling albums see DT)

2. ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition  (debatable if it was a successful attempt to merge classical with rock music.  But it is the one to start with.... )

3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (teach our young prog newbie early on that you don't have to be English.. or rock the house ... to be prog.. or progressive)

4.  Radiohead - OK Computer ( modern prog...  which was progessive... prog.. and just as importantly.. not ripping off what others did best 30 years ago)

5. Magma - Kobaia ( you can't have a top 10 albums for a prog newbie without including Magma... probably the most unique band in prog and once they hear them.. they'll be hooked. .and as I posted in my review.. THIS is the album for the newbie)

6. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (as much as I hate giving this band props.. this album was one song short of absolute perfection.. and a prog newbie probably has little clue that Genesis existed before stinking up the 80's)

7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)

8. Osanna - Palepoli ( call me a homer... but I'd bet everything I own.. that if Osanna were from England.. all the blinkered fans who equate prog with England would be sh*tting their pants over the album. It's that good.. that prog.. that progressive.. and it doesn't hurt that it rocks harder than any of the stuff in Prog Metal)

9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries ( a prog metal album so good.. even those who have made an internet career throwing sh*t at prog-metal ... love it to death. )

10.  Can -Tago Mago  (make a top 10 list without Can...  and you should be demoted to prog newbie yourself. Not my favorite from them.. but this one is the most essential.  The Krautrock starter) 
 
7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)
 
First, if as you said above Mars Volta is the future of prog, I must stop listen to prog and begin to colect stamps. Why everybody praise this band so much like Porcupine, two bands very overrated in my opinion, there are hundreds of new bands that sound mileas away good than this two. Second here is my top ten for you not in this order necesarly
 
1.Genesis - Trick of the tail - 1976
2. Renaissance - anything from Prologue to Azure d'or is recommended
3.Gentle Giant - The power and the glory - 1974
4.Pagan's Mind - Celestia entrance - 2002
5.Jethro Tull - Songs from the wood - 1977
6.Marillion - Misplaced chillhood - 1985
7.Uriah Heep - Demons and wizards - 1972
8.Iq - The wake - 1985
9.Nektar - Recycled - 1976
10.ELP - Tarkus - 1971


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 14:04
1. Selling England by the Pound
2. Fragile
3. Meddle
4. Space Shanty
5. Damnation
6. Second Life Syndrome 
7. One Size Fits All
8. Octopus
9. Traced In Air
10. Si on Avait....
 
 


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Posted By: Bravejester
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 18:23
Brave - Marillion
In Absentia - Porcupine Tree
Out Of Myself - Riverside
Clutching At Straws - Marillion
Vigil In The Wilderness Of Mirrors - Fish
Round Midnight - Moongarden
Damnation - Opeth
Empire - Queensryche
Fate Of A Dreamer - Ambeon
01011001 - Ayreon
 
 
 


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 18:40
Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

First, if as you said above Mars Volta is the future of prog, I must stop listen to prog and begin to colect stamps. Why everybody praise this band so much like Porcupine, two bands very overrated in my opinion, there are hundreds of new bands that sound mileas away good than this two. Second here is my top ten for you not in this order necesarly
 


As usual, 'overrated' here means 'I don't like it'Confused.... Personally, I find those Prog-Metal bands you listen to not only anything but progressive, but extremely boring and repetitive as well, but don't go posting this every time I get the opportunity. You don't like TMV? Fine - I happen to love them, but I realize they are not everyone's cup of tea. However, I can see the difference between something I don't like and something that is not progressive.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 18:42



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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 18:48
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why is it recently, whenever and wherever I see this name I see a post or posts that are annoying and irritating?




Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 19:10
I need to post more...  someone has stolen my crown of annoyance and irratation...

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 19:32
In fact, I wonder if I shouldn't choose the albums I found and/or heard/listened at my father's? In this case, the list would be the following path of initiation:

1) Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
2) Yes - Close to the Edge
3) Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Center of the Earth (remember, I talked about initiation)
4) Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti / Joe's Garage (I spend a whole summer only listening to these tapes)
5) Emerson, Lake and Palmer - The Best of...
6) Eno, Moebelius & Roedelius - After The Heat
7) Mike Oldfield - Crises
8) Alan Parsons (no title, it was a home-made anthology)
9) Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express
10) A global atmosphere including songs by Pink Floyd, Pat Metheny, Jean-Luc Ponty...

Please, note that it's more or less the steps of my discovery of progressive music. I won't say it's the path to follow, I just say it was how I discovered the genre.


Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 19:46
01. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
02. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
03. ELP -Trilogy
04. Rush - Permanent Waves
05. Supertramp - Cryme of the Century
06. Jethro Tull - Aqualung
07. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
08. Kansas - Leftoverture
09. Yes - Fragile
10. Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory - Metropolis Part II



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Posted By: guitargods2009
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 23:19
In no particular order...
 
01. King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
02. King Crimson - Red
03. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon
04. Pink Floyd - Wish You Where Here
05. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus
06. Yes - Close To The Edge
07. The Moody Blues - In A Threshold Of A Dream
08. The Moody Blues - To Our Childrens Children
09. Rush - 2112
10. Rush - Moving Pictures
 


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 00:41
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

First, if as you said above Mars Volta is the future of prog, I must stop listen to prog and begin to colect stamps. Why everybody praise this band so much like Porcupine, two bands very overrated in my opinion, there are hundreds of new bands that sound mileas away good than this two. Second here is my top ten for you not in this order necesarly
 


As usual, 'overrated' here means 'I don't like it'Confused.... Personally, I find those Prog-Metal bands you listen to not only anything but progressive, but extremely boring and repetitive as well, but don't go posting this every time I get the opportunity. You don't like TMV? Fine - I happen to love them, but I realize they are not everyone's cup of tea. However, I can see the difference between something I don't like and something that is not progressive.
 
Hmm maybe you are right, it happen' sometime to be excited more then usual.Embarrassed


Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 02:03
Well, It was "Italian Night" for a film event at my school so I burned my teacher (who's a musician but doesn't know any prog) some PFM, Banco, Le Orme, and Museo Rosenbach. Smile It's not a good starter set for prog as a whole but it was just for the occasion. I like this idea though.

Unfortunately I've never had any freinds interested in Prog.


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Posted By: Lewa
Date Posted: September 26 2009 at 14:24
LOL Noooooooooooooooooooo! Don't scare them away please! LOL


I agree with those who mentioned that newbies should hear more accesible albums first. They may represent the genre well but scaring someone of doesn't help.

I mean, if you wanted to get someone into clasical music you woudn't give her Bruckner, Strawinsky or atonal music first. Starting her on Bolero and Carmina Burana would make more sense.

Similarly some prog-related stuff or 'easy albums' should be a good starting point for a future prog-lover.  It's also important to pay attention to their tastes, of course (rock or folk?).

Good transition albums for the old stuff are IMO:

Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
Moody Blues - This Is The Moody Blues
Deep Purple - Shades Of Deep Purple
Jethro Tull - Aqualung (anything but Thick... or Passion Play really)
Alan Parson's Project - Tales Of Mystery And Imagination
Mike Oldfield - Five Miles Out
Queen - Queen II
Rush - Moving Pictures
Fairport Convention - What We Did On Our Holidays
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic


For newer stuff I'd think:

Green Carnation - Acoustic Verses (or anything with short songs)
The Decemberists - Hazards or Crane Wife
Dead Can Dance - Spiritchaser
Radiohead - Ok Computer
Gazpacho - Bravo
Motorpsycho and Jaga Jazzist Horns - In The Fishtank
Phidaux - Doomsday Afternoon
Neal Morse - ?
Agalloch - The Mantle
Therion - Lemuria/Sirius B
(for those ok with metal)


We are going to convert them all! Wink






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