Dragonforce??
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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
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Topic: Dragonforce??
Posted By: J-Man
Subject: Dragonforce??
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 13:34
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I discovered these guys from Guitar Hero III with their song "Through The Fire and the Flames". I really liked the song, so I went out and bought the album that it is off of. It is certainly a progressive album! It's still ultimately power metal, but there are many prog hintings. I would suggest them for prog related or crossover because they aren't quite prog metal, but they are without a doubt more progressive than Radiohead or Muse! Your thoughts? ------------- 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 13:39
| Hell no. Every Dragonforce song sounds like the Power Rangers theme. |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 13:41
| It's probably been discussed several times. I'd give a big no. They are just a rather bland metal band in my opinion. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 13:43
| Good thinking that they wouldnīt fit into progressive metal even though they have lots of elements that could serve as an illusion to many. Totally over the top noodly power metal. I remember being blown back the first time I heard one of their albums. You probably wonīt get very far by mentioning that they are more progressive than both Radiohead and Muse though. Artists are generally not added to PA because they are more progressive than whatīs already included. Only on their own merits. Íīm not sure about their inclusion on PA ( I simply havenīt listened to enough of their music to be sure), so lets hear what others have to say about it. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 13:51
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Well, plenty of other cheesy DT-wannabes are here, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were added. I would be very sad, though. It might interest you to know that the guys in Dragonforce strated this band as a joke with the intent of making fun of Power Metal. So they went as over-the-top as possible. Problem was, people started taking them seriously.  |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 14:09
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Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 14:21
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They have been rejected by the PMT as recently as a couple of months ago. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112" rel="nofollow - http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112 Colt - Admin Team MMA 
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 14:45
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Poppy, lessy proggy than Muse, can have a no. ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 15:01
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Agdrominatio |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 15:01
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At first I wondered how a respected Prog Reviewer could even fathom Dragonforce as a progressive band of any kind . . . . . . then I saw where he gave ''Let It Be'' 2 stars, and it all made sense!  |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 15:14
| No. They are the antithesis of prog. |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 15:43
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Dragonforce=good musicians making fail music
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 16:01
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russellk wrote:Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 16:12
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LOL
Hell no, there is nothing progressive about compiling everything people hate about power metal and forming the most generic, awful power metal band Conor Fynes has ever listened to.
Blind Guardian and Rhapsody of Fire are progressive power metal bands, even Symphony X are progressive power metal. Listen to them, and then listen to Dragonforce and you can easily tell that those three bands are certainly operating on a different echelon.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 16:42
| Maybe progrocker2244 simply started this topic to get us riled, and nothing more. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 16:45
| STRATOVARIUS LOL |
Posted By: Gustavo Froes
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 17:04
| I would much rather see the Rolling Stones in the archives.They even have flutes in a song and one of them used to dress in Indian fashion,that's closer to prog than Dragonforce will ever get. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 17:06
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This thread is a total joke.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 17:19
| This thread makes the Metallica thread look like a sunny day in France. |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 19:49
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The day Dragonforce is considered prog, I will lose all hope in humanity. |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 21:07
| Dragonforce has been rejected by the PMT, sorry. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 23:50
| Well he didnīt suggest Dragonforce for PMT David. He did say crossover or prog-related. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 23:59
Xover? Put everything in Xover that we can't get into another sub!  I'm surprised he didn't say eclectic.Related...? Don't even make me go there. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 00:11
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Dragonforce? Now I've heard some outrageous suggestions but that's nuts. No offense if you like them, but prog?? Every single song sounds the same. I don't know anything about their newest release...but I doubt it is close to progressive. Even if it is, I think 1 album does not a prog band make. Especially considering the first 3 before it. But hey, I've been saying this for lots of bands that are here......so who knows |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 00:14
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Dragonforce does have some pretty inventive album art, though. Maybe a new category? "Bands who aren't Prog but should be Prog because they have cool album art". |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 01:18
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 01:44
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I could see PR, but I don't know why that category seems so derned important to so many. This is, after all a prog site.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 04:51
Just to make it clear. I havenīt got an opinion about their inclusion. I was just pointing out that he didnīt suggest them for PM.
And whatīs with all the ridicule ( and here I donīt mean you post David
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 04:54
| and sarcasm in this case also qualifies as ridicule of the man IMO. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 05:06
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Dragonforce aren't and shouldn't be included in Xover or Prog related. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 05:11
Xover is not a place to put bands that are not quite something else, it is a subgenre in its own right and a subset of Art Rock that recognises that Progressive Rock can sometimes be a bit commercial. While we do have some heavy and metalic bands within the sub (eg Paatos, TSO, Haggard, 3, The Dear Hunter, Coheed and Cambria, etc) they have an Art Rock element to them that DragonHeart does not possess.
As for Prog Related, personnally I don't see it - while they are undoubtably influenced by Metallica and Iron Maiden (probably more the latter than the former), they do not have any direct Prog Rock or Prog Metal influences any more than any other Power Metal band.
...I'll ignore the Radiohead and Muse comment
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 05:12
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^^
I agree! aaaaaaaaand You mean DragonFORCE, not DragonHEART -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 05:17
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DragonForce were called DragonHeart for the first 3 or 4 years of their existence but were forced to change their name when a Brazilian band of the same name objected. Since their music has changed diddle-squat since then I'm more than happy to keep calling them DragonHeart in much the same way that I'll still call Snickers by their proper name of Marathon.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 08:23
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I was at a Yes w/ Asia concert last night, so I missed out on this thread! I see I'm not getting all of the support I expected, so sorry for even starting this, I guess  -------------
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Posted By: rpe9p
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 08:33
fixed |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 09:00
ha ha check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPp9rImK670&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPp9rImK670&feature=related ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 09:04
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also . . . to be on topic i think this video gets to the point. listen to the diversity!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIleK5CRcjo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fshapirog.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F08%2Fand-its-back.html&feature=player_embedded - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIleK5CRcjo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fshapirog.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F08%2Fand-its-back.html&feature=player_embedded ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 13:52
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 13:54
Exactly my point.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 14:02
After you watch that crap video which is actually the real thing, go watch this parody someone did of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwPAewBFVQs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwPAewBFVQs The sad thing is . . . pretty much everything in that parody sounds better than what they actually played. |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 16:02
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 22:49
I agree with that ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 23:49
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 08 2009 at 00:30
| They should have named themselves Dragonfarce, IMO. |
Posted By: Terrest Cephalopod
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 23:57
I hate Dragonforce , lineal music, zero improvisation, zero original, non progressive. I have a friend who says: "Dragonforce is the best band".... uhhhh, the silly poor not knows the real music 
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