Zappa's Läther
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Topic: Zappa's Läther
Posted By: mrcozdude
Subject: Zappa's Läther
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 00:22
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I'm unsure whether to by the three disc compilation of Zappa's Läther which includes most of the material from his former albums http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zappa_in_New_York - Zappa in New York (1978), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Tan - Studio Tan (1978), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_Dirt - Sleep Dirt (1979) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestral_Favorites - Orchestral Favorites. As a Zappa fan I want the most from his albums and have read there's alternate versions of songs on Läther.But it also doesn't include some songs featured on the individual albums.For a more in-depth description http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4ther - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4ther. Which would/do you prefer to have? Läther or The Individual albums? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 01:08
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Lather because it's how those songs were meant to be heard. but get Zappa New York too, that's worth having (more songs!) in fact getting everything is cool too because there's even more music on all of them (and different versions, like no vocals on Sleep Dirt.) but get Lather first ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 01:17
I suppose Lather would be cheaper.I also had this problem with Miles Davis's complete bitches brew and In a silent way sessions which would include a lot of stuff from his further releases in his electric phase. Yeah I noticed Lather hardly featured much material from Zappa in New York.I'm still indecisive. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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darkshade wrote:Posted By: Evan
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 01:35
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If possible, get the version of Sleep Dirt without vocals (not sure if its out on CD). It's the best of the material on Lather, but without annoying, song-ruining (IMO) vocals. Zappa in New York is also a good idea. And the differences between the Lather versions of songs is such that unless you are a super Zappa freak, theres really no point in getting both. |
Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 01:46
I know what you mean about the lyrics. I had Sleep Dirt on vinyl and it was one of favorite sides (The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution is awesome, great pun too). I was really surprised when I got it on CD and it had that bizarre story line about Hunchintude the spider. I have grown to like it, but I'm glad I have both versions. ------------- 
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 01:51
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Does Lather actually cover any of the whole albums in terms of track listings?because as mentioned before theres hardly anything from Zappa in new york.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 02:11
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Lather was supposed to be Zappa's 4 LP epic album. The track listing is different (obviously) from the other albums, but they seem like they were supposed to be there, because its a Zappa record. The other albums (except for Zappa NY) had track listings not approved by FZ himself, if im not mistaken. So i say again, definitely go with Lather. I say it every time someone cant decide which album to get. You WILL NOT be disappointed. actually, i think almost half of Zappa NY is on Lather, but there's a lot of stuff that isnt Sleep Dirt does have the better version of The Ocean is the Ultimate Solution  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 05:17
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It's a difficult situation. I discovered IN NEW YORK first, and I loved most of it - especially THE ILLINOIS ENEMA BANDIT! It's definitely one of Zappa's most enjoyable live sets.
Then I got Läther, and I found out much of its best music was actually instrumental. It must have come from some of the other albums, which I have never checked out. The main problem with Läther is "Gregary Peccary", in my view - an entire LP side of wasted time... But I suppose that, if you're a true Zappa freak, you ought to go for Läther, since you want to appreciate the CONCEPT... |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 09:59
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Get Lather. This is how FZ intended the music to be heard. However, you'll not be disappointed with the four albums WB released in its place. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 10:08
| I don't have Lather, but do have the individual albums and as far as does go, Zappa in New York is a essential live album, while Studio Tan is worthy because of RDNZL. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 13:53
------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: llamalime
Date Posted: September 20 2009 at 21:48
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Lather because it has exclusive material. But I do love Thana Harris' vocal overdubs from Sleep Dirt.
------------- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." -Frank Zappa |