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Topic: Yes, Topographic Oceans
Posted By: TheLastBaron
Subject: Yes, Topographic Oceans
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:11
I really enjoy Yes. I only have The Yes Album, Fragile and Close to the Edge right now. I love all these albums. The atmosphere, lyrics and musicianship on all of these is superb. And though my Papa would roll his eyes, I love their cover of America. I love how they took a 3 minute pop song ( the original is great, love Simon and Garfunkel) and made it a ten minute awesome jam.
 
Now with my love for those three albums, should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:23
there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both




Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:44
I think that this is the thread for you. Nothing need be added here I think?

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58713 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58713


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 04:48
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both


I LOVE both...

After those, I'd reccomend DRAMA and GOING FOR THE ONE, but there isn't a YES album I don't love...

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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 06:04
I think Tales is a simply wonderful album, and if anything to these ears it seems to have improved over the years. 
 
It's pretty much as good as anything by Yes (I only prefer Going For The One) and an absolute must-have.


Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 08:13
Go to the post recommended by Snow Dog.  But I just want to say, though I've known this album all my conscious life, I'm extremely happy and perhaps sort of envious for anyone who is about to hear it for the first time!  You are lucky, because it is wonderful.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 08:19
Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

Go to the post recommended by Snow Dog.  But I just want to say, though I've known this album all my conscious life, I'm extremely happy and perhaps sort of envious for anyone who is about to hear it for the first time!  You are lucky, because it is wonderful.

I absolutely agree with you.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 12:29
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

Go to the post recommended by Snow Dog.  But I just want to say, though I've known this album all my conscious life, I'm extremely happy and perhaps sort of envious for anyone who is about to hear it for the first time!  You are lucky, because it is wonderful.

I absolutely agree with you.


A superb couple of posts - I can barely remember the first time I listened to this, and the sense of excitement at buying the gatefold vinyl from my local record shop some 30 years ago. You are so going to love it.

My own review http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=204366 gives my own opinion, which I have not changed - however, Revealing Science & Ritual are two of the most enduring and incredible pieces of music ever written and performed.

EnjoyHug




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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:45
Originally posted by TheLastBaron TheLastBaron wrote:

should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things.


You should venture into because everyone should have their own opinion on this album.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:47
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by TheLastBaron TheLastBaron wrote:

should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things.


You should venture into because everyone should have their own opinion on this album.


yep....Clap


as I said in my review.. and surely said in others...

If you don't have an opinion on this album...   you know jack sh*t about prog.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:50
LastBaron?  Hello?  Ermm Smile


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:51
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT

I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.  Big smile


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:51
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

LastBaron?  Hello?  Ermm Smile


Maybe he's listening to it right now!  Big smile


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:52
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

LastBaron?  Hello?  Ermm Smile


He's probably just getting finished listening to Tales from Topographic Oceans.


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:52
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

LastBaron?  Hello?  Ermm Smile


Maybe he's listening to it right now!  Big smile


f**k!

Beat me to the punch!  Ouch


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:52
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT

I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.  Big smile


I can imagine the two us getting drunk on beer and getting weird looks at the bar.

GETTING OVER OVERHANGING TREES!


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:58
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both


I LOVE both...

After those, I'd reccomend DRAMA and GOING FOR THE ONE, but there isn't a YES album I don't love...


Not even Open Your Eyes??Wink


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:59
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT

I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.  Big smile


I can imagine the two us getting drunk on beer and getting weird looks at the bar.

GETTING OVER OVERHANGING TREES!


We could meet some environmentalists.

"We must do something to protect the trees!"

Me: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGH LET EM RAPE THE FOREST...*hick*.....they might stand and leave em, you know what I'm sayin..."

Pat: "Clearly...let's go home."

Me: "That's to be home, ya git..."


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:00
Anyway, that album is very controversial. I personally like it, but not everybody does. I'd say go for it. It doesn't hurt to try it.

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:03
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT

I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.  Big smile


I can imagine the two us getting drunk on beer and getting weird looks at the bar.

GETTING OVER OVERHANGING TREES!


We could meet some environmentalists.

"We must do something to protect the trees!"

Me: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGH LET EM RAPE THE FOREST...*hick*.....they might stand and leave em, you know what I'm sayin..."

Pat: "Clearly...let's go home."

Me: "That's to be home, ya git..."


LOL




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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:04
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT

I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.  Big smile


I think that may be a Billy Squire song





Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 05:37
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT

I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.  Big smile


Please understand, I'm not writing this to be a corrective jerk.  (Actually Epi, your posts are among the ones I find most enjoyable, and your serious love of this album is something I understand and share Hug.)  But that last lyric is incorrect (if you're talking about that moment near the close of Revealing where Anderson sings over Wakeman) and should read, "they really mean to."

I wouldn't post such a thing at all ever if it wasn't for a funny fact that makes that one lyrical moment stick in my head perhaps more that any other.

I grew up pretty poor, but my brother had a vinyl record collection of great music that I listened to religiously, almost all of which was this stuff which would later come to be called prog rock.  An easy favorite of mine, deeply meaningful to me then as now, was Tales.  But the record was getting old, tight money prevented the thought of replacing it, and the record developed a bad scratch that became a skip.  It would go...

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THEY REALLY
MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) ...

LOLWhenever I listen to the CD now, and that part comes, I think of that skip.  I remember making a tape of it for carrying around (so I could geek out in public and not just at home!).  The skip was on the tape too, about five skips before I succesfully nudged the needle past that point and into Howe's little volume pedal accents that follow.  That further reenforced the skip in my mind, almost as if it was a part of the song.  Like, Jon really can't believe they mean to!

Anyway, man is that album the greatest!StarStarStarStarStar
Star


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 06:13
Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT

I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.  Big smile


Please understand, I'm not writing this to be a corrective jerk.  (Actually Epi, your posts are among the ones I find most enjoyable, and your serious love of this album is something I understand and share Hug.)  But that last lyric is incorrect (if you're talking about that moment near the close of Revealing where Anderson sings over Wakeman) and should read, "they really mean to."

I wouldn't post such a thing at all ever if it wasn't for a funny fact that makes that one lyrical moment stick in my head perhaps more that any other.

I grew up pretty poor, but my brother had a vinyl record collection of great music that I listened to religiously, almost all of which was this stuff which would later come to be called prog rock.  An easy favorite of mine, deeply meaningful to me then as now, was Tales.  But the record was getting old, tight money prevented the thought of replacing it, and the record developed a bad scratch that became a skip.  It would go...

THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THEY REALLY
MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) ...

LOLWhenever I listen to the CD now, and that part comes, I think of that skip.  I remember making a tape of it for carrying around (so I could geek out in public and not just at home!).  The skip was on the tape too, about five skips before I succesfully nudged the needle past that point and into Howe's little volume pedal accents that follow.  That further reenforced the skip in my mind, almost as if it was a part of the song.  Like, Jon really can't believe they mean to!

Anyway, man is that album the greatest!StarStarStarStarStar
Star


No offense taken, friend...

...but you're wrong.  Smile

You see, Anderson sings that melody more than once.  The second time (19:37) is the location of  the lyrics you mentioned.  The lyrics I noted begin at 11:41, the first time that melody is sung.

But I'm glad you got to share that anecdote (there's been more than one time that a ruined copy of a beloved song ingrained something like that into my memory). LOL


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Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 06:28
^ Aaaaah, right.  Followed by, "There's someone / to tell you..."  Got it.  The part I was talking about was the return reference to that earlier music, which moment you would agree is one of the greatest nods to symphonists ever to take place in rock, and the chills it produces, the epic close of the piece, wouldn't have been possible without that earlier section.  Yeah, those fellas were pretty good.

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Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 02:41
Originally posted by TheLastBaron TheLastBaron wrote:

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Now with my love for those three albums, should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things.
 
Of course you should venture. Be a crazy man, be your own man. Decide for yourself, then report back to us!


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:33
You can imagine my surprise when I heard TFTO, considering my first experience of Yes, as a fledgling progger, was 90125!! I was just getting into prog and had no real idea what to expect from album to the next.

TFTO wrestles with CTTE for my third favourite Yes album, behind Fragile and GFTO. It's mainly on the strength of 'The Revealing Science of God' which is my all time favourite Yes track.

You must check this album out!


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:07
Originally posted by meptune meptune wrote:

Originally posted by TheLastBaron TheLastBaron wrote:

I
Now with my love for those three albums, should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things.

 

Of course you should venture. Be a crazy man, be your own man. Decide for yourself, then report back to us!

WORD...

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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 20:38
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both.

Both are an "acquired taste."  I acquired my taste for Relayer long before Tales...


Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: July 03 2009 at 05:31
Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both.

Both are an "acquired taste."  I acquired my taste for Relayer long before Tales...
I heard Tales way before I heard Relayer, but I totally reserve my right to say that the truth is I love both

OK, perhaps a small knock to Relayer for "To Be Over", which has a first third that I frankly find sort of lazy sometimes (but then other times I like it), but then again the lyrics even speak to lazing, and even so it all leads to a second two-thirds that's fantastic(!) so I can't really complain.  Whereas I find nothing at all wanting in Tales.  But again, I love both records.  Relayer isn't trying to be Tales (not that that's what anyone was suggestion), because nothing ever will or can.


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Posted By: Lodij van der Graaf
Date Posted: July 21 2009 at 06:29
Originally posted by TheLastBaron TheLastBaron wrote:


Now with my love for those three albums, should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things.

 
You have to. But about Tales, some call it Prog's motherlode, some call it motherf**ker Big smile
Let's see yours after listening the album by yourself.



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