Would yo sacrifice all DT member to revive Zappa ?
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Topic: Would yo sacrifice all DT member to revive Zappa ?
Posted By: alanerc
Subject: Would yo sacrifice all DT member to revive Zappa ?
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 00:28
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 00:37
Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 01:46
I'd sacrifice all the members of DT, VDGG, ELP, PFM, IQ and TMV if it would bring FZ back...
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 01:55
No!*
*At least not until I see DT live..
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:04
Nah.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:07
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Of course.
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Posted By: mono
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:08
Zappa is the music, the life. When he dies, he dies. Reviving him is like killing him beyond the grave!
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:12
I love how no one actually questions the value of human life here
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:13
mono wrote:
Zappa is the music, the life. When he dies, he dies. Reviving him is like killing him beyond the grave!
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Sheez, a perfectly acceptable excuse for sacrificing DT finally comes up, and it has to be ruined by posts like this one
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:39
Yes. Without question yes. so long as Images and Words - Scenes From a Memory were still around...
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:55
Too ridiculous for words. And if I should have the power to revive one musician, I would choose for Nick Drake, who lived half as long as Frank Zappa. No sacrificing.
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Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 03:08
In the words of Monty Python, "What a stupid concept". First off, the sacrifice of all DT members would require the most exacting Satanic rituals replete with silly costumes, druidic time tables, and pagan rituals breaking any number of international laws. Secondly, the cost of rounding the DT band members up and bringing them all to a suitable sacrificial site would be daunting to say the least. Finally, as anyone knows from watching any number of B horror movies, the resurected Zappa would be nothing more than a hollow shell of the original, probably hell bent on the ultimate spiritual destruction of those responsible for dragging him back from his final rest. Wake up and repent sinner. This entire thread is nothing short of blasphemous.
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 03:14
Zappa put out how many albums in his lifetime? I don't even want to know... if you brought him back he'd be like, "Let me sleep!"
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 03:24
Of course. I would sacrifice them for a good Zappa boxset..
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 03:41
I'd sacrifice them for Rick Wright, as well. DT are cool. I think they as a band are at least worth something like A Zappa, two Wrights, a half a Nick Drake, and one free Gabriel era Genesis reunion tour concert.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 03:47
Alitare wrote:
I'd sacrifice them for Rick Wright, as well. DT are cool. I think they as a band are at least worth something like A Zappa, two Wrights, a half a Nick Drake, and one free Gabriel era Genesis reunion tour concert.
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I'd sacrifice that Genesis tour for the other half of Nick Drake.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 03:52
But a Genesis tour is worth only 1/4th a Nick Drake. That, or a new Wakeman album. Catch is, the album has to be completely sans instruments.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 03:54
HELL YEAH!
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 04:04
Alitare wrote:
But a Genesis tour is worth only 1/4th a Nick Drake. That, or a new Wakeman album. Catch is, the album has to be completely sans instruments.
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Damn. Looks like I'll need to sacrifice a lot of things to bring Drake back in his entirety.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 04:53
NO NO NO
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 05:45
Couldn't we just sacrifice Phil Collins?
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Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 07:20
I would sacrifice Gail and Dweezil also....
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 08:04
Frank is not dead, he just smells funny.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 08:09
proggy wrote:
I would sacrifice Gail and Dweezil also.... |
Why Dweezil? Guess you haven't seen Zappa Plays Zappa, or maybe you have? Personally I like it. Can't speak to Gail though. Personally I'd add Banks and Rutherford to the sacrificial pyre.
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 08:47
This is easy for me because Zappa does little for me. As talented as he was, I still believe he was over-rated. I recall most people I knew really liking his music as being the type who needed to be non-conformists.
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Posted By: SFranke
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 08:50
What comes out of the ground ain't what you put in.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 09:20
Why not? Even if he didn't come back, it wouldn't be a great loss.
Unless I accidentally sacrificed them to an ancient demon who would
wake up from his sleep and devour the whole universe.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 11:04
I would sacrifice all of you to revive Frank.... Sinatra.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 11:15
I feel sorry to do this to you Dream Theater you just can't beat Frank Zappa!
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 12:10
Hmm...keep around a band which I've never liked, or bring back a hyper-intelligent alien composer/guitarist to live life anew...tough, tough decision...
Welcome back, Frank!
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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 12:23
*Sighs and walks away*
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 12:32
Slartibartfast wrote:
Couldn't we just sacrifice Phil Collins?
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Agreed. Add most any new music group as well as any American Idol contestant to this,.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 12:33
The T wrote:
I would sacrifice all of you to revive Frank.... Sinatra.
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We need the Chairman of the Board back. And the Rat Pack too.
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 12:35
hell yes! screw DT they haven't had a decent output since a change of seasons!
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 13:58
No, Leonard Cohen is worth three Nick Drakes, and Bob Dylan is worth 3 and 1/2 Nicks. But it isn't transitive. Meaning, Bob Dylan is not worth 1 and 1/3rd a Leonard Cohen.
Bob is worth Leonard Cohen directly, but either way, they;d both lose their ability to sing.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 14:07
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Drake is worth more than you say (about half a Cohen) and Cohen is worth at least 1― Dylans.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 14:24
crimhead wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Couldn't we just sacrifice Phil Collins?
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Agreed. Add most any new music group as well as any American Idol contestant to this,.
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I never thought of American Idol contestants. Well, well, well then, as many of them as possible.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 14:48
You're right, vom. I got Drake confused with Nick Menza. And Nick Cave is worth about 2 Dylans.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 14:55
The T wrote:
I would sacrifice all of you to revive Frank.... Sinatra.
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No, no, DT maybe, well yes ! but I'm not too happy with this idea.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 14:56
Alitare wrote:
You're right, vom. I got Drake confused with Nick Menza. And Nick Cave is worth about 2 Dylans.
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Right on!
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 14:57
Alitare wrote:
You're right, vom. I got Drake confused with Nick Menza. And Nick Cave is worth about 2 Dylans.
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Well, I wonder how many Dylans I would need to buy a Neil Young.
Back to the topic: are you sure sacrificing the DT members is the right ritual to bring back Uncle Zappa? I thought the thing would work better with... Well, maybe other bands? Not that I would preserve DT at any cost...
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 15:12
Maybe Frank would be able to do part 2 of Jazz From Hell.
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Posted By: santiagomo87
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 22:46
no because I don't have the time to check out all of Frank's existing material what would I do with more of his albums?? that would be insane... perhaps if he makes a hot ratz tour on mexico city then yes
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 22:50
No.....I hate zombies.
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Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 08:40
Posted By: cmk633
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 12:31
haha thats true
Also, sacrificing five musicians for one seems more like a defect than a surplus. Personally, Cynic and DT are my favorite prog artists. So don't kill me for disagreeing.
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 16:18
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 16:44
CPicard wrote:
Alitare wrote:
You're right, vom. I got Drake confused with Nick Menza. And Nick Cave is worth about 2 Dylans. |
Well, I wonder how many Dylans I would need to buy a Neil Young.
Back to the topic: are you sure sacrificing the DT members is the right ritual to bring back Uncle Zappa? I thought the thing would work better with... Well, maybe other bands? Not that I would preserve DT at any cost...
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The going rate is 1.5 Dylans to the Young due to the fact that the Dylan iscurrently slightly overvalued.. There have been calls for devaluation so I would buy now before your Dylans are only worth one of a CSN.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:13
Poor Crosby. He is barely worth half a Greg Lake, now.
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Posted By: missiongonewrong
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:24
akamaisondufromage wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Alitare wrote:
You're right, vom. I got Drake confused with Nick Menza. And Nick Cave is worth about 2 Dylans. |
Well, I wonder how many Dylans I would need to buy a Neil Young.
Back to the topic: are you sure sacrificing the DT members is the right ritual to bring back Uncle Zappa? I thought the thing would work better with... Well, maybe other bands? Not that I would preserve DT at any cost...
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The going rate is 1.5 Dylans to the Young due to the fact that the Dylan iscurrently slightly overvalued.. There have been calls for devaluation so I would buy now before your Dylans are only worth one of a CSN.
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Looks like Dream Theater is down in the stockmarkets this week.....
time to sell my shares and buy into this whole "Young Dylan" scenario
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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: June 11 2009 at 11:08
Yes and Yes
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 11 2009 at 11:10
If you all love Zappa so much, why don't you collectively sacrifice yourselves on his behalf instead of murdering 5 innocent people?
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 11 2009 at 11:33
The T wrote:
If you all love Zappa so much, why don't you collectively sacrifice yourselves on his behalf instead of murdering 5 innocent people? |
So, you think the people from DT are innocent?
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 11 2009 at 11:46
Innocent as a bird....
Like Baal, Zappa has already two of the same letter.. it's a good deity you could all sacrifice yourselves to... And if he comes back to life, he could play in his band (Zappa plays Zappa) and be the opener for Dream Theater!! Yes, my DT boys would give him 30 minutes to try to conquer audiences... they're so generous...
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: June 11 2009 at 12:48
lmao..... amusing question.... I guess I'd do....
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Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 10:26
Certainly NOT!
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 12:18
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:14
Well, I might be a little shakey on the fact that I just killed a bunch of people, but yeah, it's Frank Zappa!
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 17:57
I'll do them all in myself if I have to
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 24 2009 at 08:39
For once an easy question
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 24 2009 at 11:21
after you revive Zappa, I'll be more than happy to murder him cruelly and swiftly so DT can come back to live...
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Posted By: Sangria
Date Posted: June 24 2009 at 16:49
I would rather revive John Denver than Frank Zappa.
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Posted By: Gustavo Froes
Date Posted: June 24 2009 at 16:55
Sangria wrote:
I would rather revive John Denver than Frank Zappa. |
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Posted By: Gustavo Froes
Date Posted: June 24 2009 at 17:01
To have Hendrix back I wouldn't hesitate in sacrifice DT and all of their fans.
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Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:39
Nearly voted 'yes' until I saw choice four, to revive another dead musician. Zappa was of course great and everything, but if I had such occult power I'd see Mozart revived. Not kidding. He was cut off in his prime and all of music history would likely have been different had he lived.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:48
Gustavo Froes wrote:
To have Hendrix back I wouldn't hesitate in sacrifice DT and all of their fans.
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Gee, thanks.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 09:12
No way in hell
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Posted By: Etneciv
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 09:20
It's not a hard question...... ZAPPA is GOD, DT is.... well DT and nothing more than that
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:49
Gustavo Froes wrote:
To have Hendrix back I wouldn't hesitate in sacrifice DT and all of their fans. |
Damn!
I better go hide the body.....
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 21:25
Gustavo Froes wrote:
To have Hendrix back I wouldn't hesitate in sacrifice DT and all of their fans.
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Maybe I should sacrifice all of Hendrix's fans
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 21:42
If ou do it..................With who will you talk about Zappa's music????????
Iván
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Posted By: camilleanne
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 07:46
Noooo!!!!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 18:29
hell yeah..
then again I'd sacrifice them for a pack of Winstons and a can of Pabst Blue Ribbon...
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Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 19:30
Absolutely. I think that Zombie Zappa would be a great name and also would probably make some cool new music that no one has ever heard before as a result of being dead.
Alternatively we could call him Zappa the Zombie, which is just as cool, or Fred, which is not.
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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: July 14 2009 at 04:59
Posted By: llamalime
Date Posted: September 20 2009 at 21:54
This is the funniest joke of all time.... FZ rules
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Posted By: paulwalker71
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 16:36
Best......poll....ever
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 17:56
"Let's see....I'll trade you the souls of Mike Portnoy, Jordan Rudess and James LaBrie for Frank Zappa and Jimi Hendrix...."
"No way, man! Throw in Myung and it's a deal, though"
"How about I give you his bass and one of Petrucci's arms?"
"Ok, fine"
.....this is the dumbest poll
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 18:44
No. Thank you
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 18:47
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
"Let's see....I'll trade you the souls of Mike Portnoy, Jordan Rudess and James LaBrie for Frank Zappa and Jimi Hendrix...."
"No way, man! Throw in Myung and it's a deal, though"
"How about I give you his bass and one of Petrucci's arms?"
"Ok, fine"
.....this is the dumbest poll |
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 18:58
J-Man wrote:
No. Thank you
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im with you guys.. i would sacrifice hendrix ten times before i miss petruccis guitar play, hes so much better IMO
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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 02:51
^
Okay Petrucci is pretty ace and a superior technical guitarist I happily admit, but he'll never became quite the icon Hendrix did - I was around 12 years old when Hendrix first appeared on "Top of the Pops" and at that time (67-ish) no-one had seen or heard anything like him before.
I'm afraid dear old DT have a fair split of fanboys and detractors on this site. For me, I love Train of Thought. but not much else. But I am getting old
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 06:27
el dingo wrote:
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Okay Petrucci is pretty ace and a superior technical guitarist I happily admit, but he'll never became quite the icon Hendrix did - I was around 12 years old when Hendrix first appeared on "Top of the Pops" and at that time (67-ish) no-one had seen or heard anything like him before.
I'm afraid dear old DT have a fair split of fanboys and detractors on this site. For me, I love Train of Thought. but not much else. But I am getting old |
ofc hendrix was in his time something very special, unique and something noone had seen before. but as times changed petrucci now is even better technically - and yes - emotional ( i refer to an evening with JP and JR ) so i think hendrix today is overrated. and itīs a matter of taste but i really didnīt get into his music as well as i did with petruccis soloing. for me petrucci wrote the most powerful and beautiful melodies.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 13:36
I would, but Necromancy is banned here in Cyrodiil.
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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:32
Mind_Drive wrote:
el dingo wrote:
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Okay Petrucci is pretty ace and a superior technical guitarist I happily admit, but he'll never became quite the icon Hendrix did - I was around 12 years old when Hendrix first appeared on "Top of the Pops" and at that time (67-ish) no-one had seen or heard anything like him before.
I'm afraid dear old DT have a fair split of fanboys and detractors on this site. For me, I love Train of Thought. but not much else. But I am getting old |
ofc hendrix was in his time something very special, unique and something noone had seen before. but as times changed petrucci now is even better technically - and yes - emotional ( i refer to an evening with JP and JR ) so i think hendrix today is overrated. and itīs a matter of taste but i really didnīt get into his music as well as i did with petruccis soloing. for me petrucci wrote the most powerful and beautiful melodies.
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I agree with you - Hendrix originals weren't earth-shattering, looking back. I genuinely admire Petrucci (and all of DT as musicians, no question about it) but for some reason only ToT does it for me (although I like quite a few individual tracks off other albums)..
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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:42
Mind Drive: When Hendrix are in his prime time, Petrucci have: 1 year old!!
Did you realize the time between 1968 when Hendrix was playing and when Petrucci record his first DT record???
Did you realize that compare guitarist of different time, is the most subjetive comparison of all?
Many Many guitarist and techniques evolves in that period of time...
After all is a matter of taste.
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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:43
Burning them on a pyre right now
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:49
Wherever Zappa is now, I suspect he has little desire to come back to this rock.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:52
^^ I'm guessing from some of his music he's not in heaven
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:54
GoldenSpiral wrote:
I would, but Necromancy is banned here in Cyrodiil. |
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Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 01:53
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 02:06
sydbarrett2010 wrote:
this poll is ridiculous
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Your anti-Zappa attitude is disheartening.
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Posted By: Weirdamigo
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 02:40
How about we sacrifice the Jonas brothers instead? Or any other Disney affiliated "musician" ..... Would be nice to have the ol' Zappa back.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 03:34
Weirdamigo wrote:
How about we sacrifice the Jonas brothers instead? Or any other Disney affiliated "musician" ..... Would be nice to have the ol' Zappa back. |
Yeah, I'd move them to the front of the line. Since Zappa is a singularity, can we pick just one member?
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 07:24
How about sacrificing the members of a whole group of bands whose total numbers of albums released match that of Zappa? I think we could nuke the whole of math-rock for example
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Posted By: JonteJH
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 07:36
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 08:10
Who was sacrificed to revive this dead thread?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 08:53
Evolver wrote:
Who was sacrificed to revive this dead thread? |
Apparently Syd. You might want to watch your back.
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 10:12
sydbarrett2010 wrote:
this poll is ridiculous |
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Posted By: kole
Date Posted: August 15 2010 at 11:02
Sacrifice like musically, definitely yes. Sacrificing as in khm, literally ... wtf?! I hope the the OP meant the first one.
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