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Hammond Deathmatch: Keith Emerson vs Jon Lord

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Topic: Hammond Deathmatch: Keith Emerson vs Jon Lord
Posted By: crimson87
Subject: Hammond Deathmatch: Keith Emerson vs Jon Lord
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 22:42

Both Classically trained , both Putting ROCK into prog  ( Right Mr Banks??LOL)Twhich is your favourite keyboard god??




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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 00:24
Much as I like Lord, Emerson buries him in a landslide of a billion blistering boulders (er, really big pebbles). 

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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 03:16

Jon Lord, easily



Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 03:58
LORD. emerson may have had the technique and the flamboyancy...

but lord has THAT sound.


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 05:56
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

Both Classically trained , both Putting ROCK into prog  ( Right Mr Banks??LOL)Twhich is your favourite keyboard god??



This is stretching things a tad in Emerson's case surely ? he did receive piano lessons as a child but so did my mum, and she can barely bash out London Bridge. There is no evidence to suggest that Keith studied under the tutelage of a music teacher. Don't know anything about Lord's formative training so can't comment. Wink

I love em' both but voted for Emerson as to my ears, Lord was often relegated to a rhythm role in his main band Purple.

Perhaps Classically influenced would be more apt ?


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 06:14
Ray Manzerek.

But on this blatantly Jon Lord.


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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 06:32
No vote here.

From  a technical standpoint, there's no reason to compare them.

About the sound: Jon wins because oh his overdriven sounds. But credit should be given to Emerson's Hammond percussion too.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 08:22
Jon Lord, that lengthy solo that comes after Space Truckin finishes on Made in Japan, Emerson can't do that.


Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 08:37
Lord, only due to preference. 


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 08:57


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 10:58
Think of Hammond organ, think of Jon Lord. The best.

And Emerson was NOT classically trained. Wakeman had some classical training but dropped out of the RCM before completing his course; nevertheless, he spanks Emerson for technical accuracy, though maybe not for excitement and showmanship.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 11:12
Anyone responsible for Child in Time never deserves to come second in such a poll.

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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 11:56
John Lord is way ahead of Emerson technically, but Emerson is a lot more creative IMO. Gonna have to go with Lord though, watching Emerson makes me cringe.

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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 14:21

Emerson



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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 14:43
Emerson by miles and miles...
 
I almost tought this was a joke how can you put sutch a boring unintresting and uncreative player as Lord agains a master like Emerson, nothing Lord did stands out in anyway cant think of anything intresting he did.


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 15:27
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:



Clap Highball Shooter, Highway Star, Never Before, Pictures of Home, Flight of the Rat, Child in Time, Hush, Fireball, No No No, Burn, Might Just Take Your Life, Concerto, Windows, Smooth Dancer, This Time Around, You Keep On Movin', and many, many MORE!!!


Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 18:08
Emerson, the guy could do anything, classical training or not. The fact that Lord had classical training and Emerson didn't just goes to show how much more talented Emerson is. Besides, Emo has that jazz aspect too that Lord never had, check this out I'm sure many of you have seen it but it's Emerson playing this insane improv with classical and jazz overlapping, two different melodies on the same piano:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjyrVL8bKOI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjyrVL8bKOI


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 18:11
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Anyone responsible for Child in Time never deserves to come second in such a poll.


What he said (though I love Emerson too)Clap. Jon is the man!


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 20:10
Keith Emerson easily.  It's not even a fair matchup.  Maybe Emerson vs Wakeman (maybe?).


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 20:39
All Lord fans are posting but Emo is winning Wink


Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 20 2009 at 02:54
Here's an Emo fan posting.
 
Lord = excellent player and a great contributor to the Purple sound, but a bit one dimensional for me.
 
Emerson = THE ultimate prog keyboard player.  Technically outstanding, not afraid to take serious risks, groundbreaking use of synths/technology (Robert Moog's guinea pig!) and just a bit of a showman too.  The man had it all in his pomp.
 
Chalk up another vote for Emo.


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 20 2009 at 15:35
Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

All Lord fans are posting but Emo is winning Wink


That means Emo fans haven't yet heard THE real hammond-organ playerWink


Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: May 20 2009 at 20:52
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

All Lord fans are posting but Emo is winning Wink


That means Emo fans haven't yet heard THE real hammond-organ playerWink
 
Actually most Emerson fan's may have never heard of Keiko Kumagai so you are right.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 21 2009 at 07:22
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

All Lord fans are posting but Emo is winning Wink


That means Emo fans haven't yet heard THE real hammond-organ playerWink
 
Actually most Emerson fan's may have never heard of Keiko Kumagai so you are right.


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Posted By: magicmarty666
Date Posted: August 26 2009 at 16:11
Jon Lord
If you dont believe me just listen to Malice in Wonderland
He made THAT sound, and he does not use knives on stage or smash his hammond up


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 26 2009 at 20:15
KE for me. I saw both at Cal Jam. 


Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: August 27 2009 at 10:54
Think HAMMOND deathmatch. I thought of this as how they USE their instrument.... If you guys have the time, have a look at the B-3 Hammond organ: Drawbars, percussion, leslie speed, etc. are all important parts in creating the sounds Emo and Lord created. Jon Lord put some distortion on his organ, so what? He's talented, so what? EMOOOOOOOO

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 27 2009 at 11:26
Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

Think HAMMOND deathmatch. I thought of this as how they USE their instrument.... If you guys have the time, have a look at the B-3 Hammond organ: Drawbars, percussion, leslie speed, etc. are all important parts in creating the sounds Emo and Lord created. Jon Lord put some distortion on his organ, so what? He's talented, so what? EMOOOOOOOO

Not to mention the bass pedals! Hence neither of them gets my vote.


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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 27 2009 at 11:33
I prefer Jon Lord over Keith Emerson, mostly because I prefer Deep Purple to ELP 99.9% of the time.  They're both great players, but something about Lord's style fits my musical vision better. 

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 02:35
Beacuse this poll concerns the Hammond I vote for Jon Lord.

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Posted By: SonicDeath10
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 10:01
Keith. I like Deep Purple and Jon Lord and everything, but during an extended Lord solo my mind can wander. Not so much with Keith. I will so that Lord's solo on "Hush" is still incredible after all this time.

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Posted By: Zebedee
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 14:31
Lord by miles. I've never really cared for Emerson's musical exhibitionism and stage antics.
And like others have already said, Lord had THAT sound. His solo work is also superior imo.


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 15:41
Ah.
Well.

Can I have a joker?

Oh, Jon Lord. "Made In Japan" shows he was a great improvisator and that counts to my opinion.


Posted By: SonicDeath10
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 15:49
Thinking it through, Lord probably is better on the Hammond. It's his natural instrument. Emerson is better technically and more diverse, but his true forte is the piano forte.

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Posted By: Badabing666
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 16:41
Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

LORD. emerson may have had the technique and the flamboyancy...

but lord has THAT sound.


Yes indeed. And what a great sound.


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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 04:41
Lord rocks 'n Emerson dunt.


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 04:47
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Keith Emerson easily.  It's not even a fair matchup.  Maybe Emerson vs Wakeman (maybe?).


Wakeman would've gotten my vote if that was the case, but as it is, Emerson.

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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 07:38
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Think of Hammond organ, think of Jon Lord. The best.

And Emerson was NOT classically trained. Wakeman had some classical training but dropped out of the RCM before completing his course; nevertheless, he spanks Emerson for technical accuracy, though maybe not for excitement and showmanship.


Can't say I would agree on this. Emerson's phrasing is way superior to Wakeman's (IMHO). And while both (in fact most keyboardist) have that tendency to try and play 'faster' than the next guy, Rickie has never even attempted anything like the 'ol rotating grand piano or the wild buck-a-roo L-100 ride. Not that that has anything at all to do with the question at hand...I'm just sayin' !


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 07:45
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Emerson by miles and miles...
 
I almost tought this was a joke how can you put sutch a boring unintresting and uncreative player as Lord agains a master like Emerson, nothing Lord did stands out in anyway cant think of anything intresting he did.


Oh come on...are you just looking to pick a fight with someone?? While I certainly prefer Emerson to Lord, he was a pioneer in the pre-metal genre and did some fine work in DP. To say 'nothing' he did stands out is not just unfair, I'd go as far as to say it's uninformed. I'd put him in my top 5 organ players any day.


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Posted By: SonicDeath10
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 08:29
Like I said, Lord is probably the better hammond player but Keith is stronger overall. Keith is fast, but sometimes his playing is so shallow.

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Posted By: wreckfan1
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 08:43
Jon Lord just plays rhythm parts to Blackmore in the majority of DP songs, and his solos are normally fast but simple phrases in his right hand
 
Keith Emerson can play lead, rhythm and counterpoint all at the same time


Posted By: GX-1
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 17:54
Kinda like comparing God to Jesus.......God being Emerson and jesus being Lord!Wink


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 18:03
Emerson is like 1 man army.

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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 18:28
I would think that this poll would undeniably go towards Emerson (he is winning, but only by 20%.)  Then again, I haven't heard much Deep Purple aside from the hits.


Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 10:28
Emerson by a fingernail. Lord had to play much more in the context of a band, playing lots of rhythm to support Blackmore's guitar, but he could solo when given the chance. Got to love his use of overdrive on a keyboard! Emerson was front and center almost all the time. Both are great though!


Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 10:44
...one need only listen to this to be a convert from Emerson to Lord:
 
album.asp?id=12603 - Deep Purple In Concert
 
Lord, indeed, has THAT sound.


Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 06:13
Emerson


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: March 30 2010 at 07:46
My wife tells me she saw Jon Lord take the lead for a 'Purple reunion encore when Blackmore couldn't be a*rsed to come back out on stage for it and he played an absolute blinder...
 
They both play fantastically but of the two I really have to go for Emerson. Wakeman was the one that first caught my ears but when it comes to playing the Hammond,  I do think Emerson was the "bees knees". And I wouldn't get to hung up on who finished their classical training. It's not the be all and end all. The ability to express yourself and make a sound that is only yours is key. For me, Emerson has managed to achieve a more distinctive, recognisable sound than Jon Lord.



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