Something REALLY dark and heavy this time
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Topic: Something REALLY dark and heavy this time
Posted By: The Pessimist
Subject: Something REALLY dark and heavy this time
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 21:36
Well here is my second installment to the progressive metal world. If you would've cared to listen to the first (Pictures in Mirrors Part 2), then you will definitely enjoy this one a lot more. This one contains yours truly doing a few low pitched death growls. This ones also more complex and features some polymetric(ish) riffs and a very post-metal air about it. Have a butchers please  And give me your conclusions  http://www.upload-mp3.com/files/14895_9vjmr/Liberty.mp3 - http://www.upload-mp3.com/files/15231_0is3f/Liberty.mp3 - Liberty.mp3 or to http://www.upload-mp3.com/files/download/15231_0is3f/Liberty.mp3 - download ... Edit: These are now the remastered versions. I took some advice from you guys and EQ'd it all properly, so now you can hear every instrument. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 23:56
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rather good.. I'm partial to the last half of the cut, the building riffs |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 05:18
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Cool, downloaded it, I'll tell you what I think.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 05:48
Very good stuff. I like the vocals, but also the use of different styles within one song. The first part is really atmospheric but my prefered section is the middle section with vocals ( the section between the post metal start and the ending more technical riffing). I must admit that I agree with Atavachron that the ending riffs might not suit the cohesiveness of the song that well. Interesting song though. Letīs hear more .
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 09:36
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Again, this music is really good, but the mix on the recording needs quite a bit of work. The biggest thing again is that the drums are way too low compared to the melodic instruments. Have you read about mixing and EQing things so they each have their own space in the mix? Right now the parts are all over each other.
The transitions also need something to hold them together a little more. But there are some awesome building blocks, well on their way. Great stuff man. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 20:57
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Downloading the remastered/mixed version.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 21:05
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Good man
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 22 2009 at 15:31
Been kinda digging it man, listened to it a fair few times already, good stuff.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 22 2009 at 17:21
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Thanks dude. Plenty more on its way
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 22 2009 at 17:34
| i listened the track , and i like it, it is dark indeed. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 09:31
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Wow, this mix is much much better. The middle section still has a massive amount going on in the high mids, but this certainly is an improvement.
I love the end sections now so much better, heavier, nastier, more headbanging. Great job. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 11:49
I tried my best  Thanks man, I'm glad it is a marked improvement. Hear me out on the middle section though  There is a triangular polymeter going on there, where the guitars are playing a 21/8 rhythm, the drums a 7/4 and the bass 7/8. So the bass is very important for the groove here (although it isn't that noticeable, it's still there). So I suppose the middle-high EQing was my effort to make the bass stick out a bit more. Any suggestions how I could eradicate the heaviness of the middle tones?------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Negoba wrote:Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 13:01
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What I'm talking about is probably at the low highs (I'm guessing between 2000-1000k, I used to know these things by number better, I'm out of practice) but basically, the rasp of the voice (also some effects), some of the cymbal sound, and some of the distortion sizzle are all occupying about the same EQ space. The bass sounds good. Distortion on the guitar I think is the big culprit on this one. (My oldest recording tip in the book, less distortion...I could go on but that's not the point here) What's suffering is that the voice is getting pushed back in the mix. Voice, virtually always, need to sit on top...center, drier, more compressed (within reason) and with it's fundamentals intact. The other stuff gets pushed back to more or less degree by EQ sculpting, pushing out in the stereo field, down in volume / less compression. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 13:37
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Yeah, I see what you mean man. I'll try my best But I can't be arsed to re-upload, so I'll stick it on the website i'll create for the entire album. Thanks for your help.
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