Best Dutch progressive band
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Topic: Best Dutch progressive band
Posted By: Moogtron III
Subject: Best Dutch progressive band
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:13
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Okay, going Dutch this time. Call it the Dutch touch... Just being a bit chauvinistic here. True, I'm living in Belgium but my roots are very much..... Oh, should I have included bands like The Gathering and Within Temptation? Well, it's too late anyway, innit? Right, cast yer votes pleez'. |
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:18
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Mine is Kayak by the way. No real weak albums, except maybe a few after the '90's reunion. Still an interesting band. Loved the Merlin show with the orchestra, ballet, stageplay and of course the music... Not much of a progressive band in the true sense of the word, but a lot of great compositions and playing. |
Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:41
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Mine vote goes to Supersister, Present from Nancy and To the Highest Bidder are awesome albums. 'Wow' is my favourite number, very humouristic. Saw them in 1999 at the Paradiso! They were not so orthodox/serious like many other progbands at the time.
Best band now: Ayreon |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:53
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I think that Focus created the second best dutch rock album that I am aware of. Golden Earrings Moontan being the best. Focus 3 and Moving Waves are almost a toss up. I think Supersister's Present From Nancy and Earth & Fires Book of the Marching Children are very good also. Trace, Kayak and Finch also produced a good album at their peak.
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 16:46
| I second Kayak. Earth and Fire, Focus, Supersister and Alquin are also worthwhile. I don;t think I ever heard any of the other bands. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 17:19
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I only know Focus and Kayak.Jan Akkerman is a great guitarist but Kayak have made some beautifull albums. 1. Kayak 2. Focus |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 17:57
| Focus get's my vote but I also like Supersister and Finch very much... |
Posted By: JamesLabrie
Date Posted: April 29 2005 at 17:58
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Where´s Elegy? my vote for them..i love that band. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 02:04
| Elegy? Who are they? |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 02:09
As I've only heard Focus , I voted for them. They were essential 70s prog heavyweights! ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Mr. Krinkle
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 03:13
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I dont know if someone could recomend me some dutch rock bands (not
just prog) happends that im kindda interested in this country. well, if
someone is willing to give me a hand... doei!! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 07:22
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Focus is a very good Dutch progressive rock band. Moving Waves and Focus III are good albums to start with, I guess. It's mostly instrumental prog, with a lot of Hammond-organ, great guitarplaying (Jan Akkerman is one of the best guitarists in the world, just as versatile as Yes' Steve Howe) Earth and Fire has two sides: they had a lot of hitsingles in the Netherlands and in some other countries, but they also made some conceptalbums: Song Of The Marching Children and Atlantis are the standout-albums. Kayak made progrock in the tradition of Yes and Genesis, though more songbased, like Procol Harum. Their first three albums are the best: See See The Sun, Kayak and Royal Bed Bouncer. Also very good is the recent concept-album Merlin, Bard of The Unseen. Supersister is a progressive band in the true sense of the world. They have a unique sound, which is difficult to describe. Ayreon makes state of the art progrock, a bit on the heavy side, and the band is the brainchild of Arjen Lucassen, and he cooperates on his album with many well-known musicians. Not one of my favorite bands, but many people like them, so I mention them anyway. Some good non-prog bands: Golden Earring are a bit like the Dutch version of the Rolling Stones, though with more variety, and they changed their sound several times, like U2 did. Massada had a progressive attitude, but were a mixture of Santana-like rock, funk and Indonesian music. Pukul Tifah shows a lot of different styles and great musicianship. The Ex makes some of the strangest music you ever heard. They have punk roots, and they're originally a very loud band, but they evolved in many different, but very experimental, directions. |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 09:06
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I WIH I COULD HAVE VOTED FOR 3: FOCUS, SUPERSISTER & FINCH. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 09:16
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 09:40
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Posted By: Lunarscape
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 10:17
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Dutch Progressive Rock is defined by excellent musicianship and a superior knowledge to Classic and Jazz. The generation that made music in the 70ies in Holland was indeed a gifted generation, producing talents and fantastic musicians. FOCUS being the most known to the general public with wonderful recordings. They produced Moving Waves, Focus III, Live At The Rainbow and Hamburger Concerto. Four MUST have recordings. Those who have seen Thjiis van Leer in concert knows that he is the absolute master of the Hammond keyboard. Jan Akkerman revealed his talent while with Focus. If you have Focus III or Hamburger Concerto you'll find the finest bass lines of Prog Rock history, Burt Reiter was at his top at that time. Pierre van Der Linden's drumming is imitated to the day of today, and is now back with Focus for the 2005 World Tour. This tour marks the release of the FOCUS 9 album and I have tickets for the Rio de Janeiro and the São Paulo concerts TRACE was by all means the "best" Dutch Prog Rock band ever. IMO...Their compositions were more complex and by far, more classical based than Focus (which had a more jazzistic tendency). Rick van Der Linden is a keyboard player whose skills surpasses all those you can dig up in the UK or the USA for that matter. I believe that only Rick Wakeman is more skilled. Trace made 3 great recordings; Trace, Birds and The White Ladies. Rick van der Linden was the main musician behind Ekseption, and departed to create Trace together with Pierre van Der Linden (no they are not related), and bass player Jaap van Eik. Rick van der Linden then left Trace and joined Kayak in the Starlight Dancer album, and years later re-joined his original band Ekseption. ________ Lunar ------------- Music Is The Soul Bird That Flies In The Immense Heart Of The Listener . . . |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 10:26
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Sounds interesting- any more info/ best albums? I voted for Focus, BTW...hard to beat. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Moogtron III wrote:Posted By: Idioglossia
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 12:05
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I picked Ayreon, I think Arjen Anthony Lucassen is a genius composer and he plays awesome synthesizers and keyboards. ------------- The weak dress in hatred to hide their fear.. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 13:54
Sure! The band originates from an anarchistic squatter environment in Amsterdam and the surrounding area. They started as a real punk band (1st album in 1980), with a simple guitars, bass and drums basis, but they evolved since then. They made a lot of albums over the years, but I’ll restrict myself to a few highlights. On their 4th album, Blueprints For A Blackout (’84), they combined their punk-based sound with instruments like oboe, violin, accordion and oil drums. It’s an experimental album with a lot of improvisation. Their album Joggers And Smoggers (’89) is even more experimental, and has a jazzy touch. In ’91 they team up with the N.Y.C. based cello player Tom Cora, still moving further away from the conventional rock-field, and they make two albums together, Scrabbling At The Lock (’91) and And The Weathermen Shrug Their Shoulders (’93). In 1999 they make an album together with the well-known band Tortoise, called In The Fishtank (’99). |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 13:56
And in my last reply I was talking about The Ex of course, not Kayak 
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 14:37
Thanks! I'm a big fan of the 'post-rock' bands that I've heard, and it sounds like they could definitely fit into that category. I'll have to look them up.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:29
| You're welcome. The Ex are not really 'post-rock' themselves, I think, although that depends on the meaning of the word. But they're quite original and yes, they did play with Tortoise, so there definitely is a connection. |
Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: May 01 2005 at 12:09
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Absolutely Ayreon.
I've worked my way back in their catalogue all the way to Actual Fantasy so far, and I still haven't heard a bad thing out of Arjen Lucassen yet. The synth-playing...and the utterly awesome sound quality...as well as the music as a whole are extremely impresive, that's for sure. My copy of The Final Experiment reissue will be arriving hopefully tomorrow or so, and I'm really looking forward to it. (Yes, AF does get a bit less consistent, but that's to be expected with older albums, which I'm more forgiving of than newer ones.) |
Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: May 01 2005 at 12:35
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 05:58
Agree 100% |
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 08:55
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Focus ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 09:19
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SUPERSISTER MUCH BETTER THAN FOCUS! |
Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:28
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I got The Final Experiment by Ayreon a few days ago. While, as should be expected of a band's first album, it was noticeably weaker, I can say now that Ayreon has never put out a bad album.
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 22:23
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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 22:32
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 11 2005 at 11:06
What about Egdon Heath, or aren't you counting Neo-Prog? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: May 11 2005 at 20:30
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Earth And Fire
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 12 2005 at 04:39
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Sorry Fandango, didn't want to make you cry I should have included Egdon Heath, you're quite right. They deserve to be in the poll. There's some great stuff on In The City and Nebula, to name but a few. Okay, that's one vote for Jaap Mulder and his musical mates, right? |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: May 12 2005 at 08:06
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Hi gang. My pick Earth & Fire. They made some truly excellent prog with a healthy dose of mellotron. Did see them warm up for Focus way back and they were much better than them.IMHO. But I have a weakness for Dutch prog in general.There are a lot of goodies from over there. |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: May 24 2005 at 12:02
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Kayak! I'm going to see them next tuesday live. looking forward to it. Only know their last two albums Merlin: Bard of the Unseen and Nostradamus: The Fate of Man, but those are great! ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: May 24 2005 at 14:59
| Hey...who all sings for Kayak? |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 24 2005 at 21:55
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ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, ABSOLUTELY AYREON!!!!! |
Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 11:56
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Wot, no 2Unlimited (2Untalented) or DJ Sven?
I'll have to vote for Focus then. ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: abyssyinfinity
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 14:26
Coda, what a symphony is simply fantastic... 
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Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 14:38
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Dude, you're missing a pretty excellent called Now. I think they're Dutch, certainly BeNeLux. They're an 80s band, some neo-prog, some symphonic prog. They're recommended. ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: June 07 2005 at 18:48
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Focus
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Posted By: felixxx
Date Posted: June 08 2005 at 11:52
I only know Focus and Ayreon and these are great both |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 08 2005 at 12:22
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I chose Ayreon, I'm more a 90s guy ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 17:09
FOCUS 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 17:51
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FOCUS IS A GREAT BAND, ONE OF THE GREATEST IN ALL TIME.....BUT ARJEN LUCASSEN´S PROJECT... AYREON... WOW!!! I CHOOSE AYREON, THEIR MUSIC IS EXCELLENT, THEIER GUESTS ETC... AYREON! ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:26
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Kirklott wrote: Dude, you're missing a pretty excellent called Now. I think they're Dutch, certainly BeNeLux. They're an 80s band, some neo-prog, some symphonic prog. They're recommended. My reaction: |