most representative band + sub-genres
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Topic: most representative band + sub-genres
Posted By: philippe
Subject: most representative band + sub-genres
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 13:49
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What is the best or most representative band for each prog sub-genre (Art Rock, Canterbury, Jazz fusion, Krautrock, Space psych rock, Symph rock)?
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Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 14:04
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Phillipe, not again...you change Avatars like underwear Canterbury - National Health, Hatfield and the North and Caravan Symphonic - Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Gentle Giant Art Rock - Hmmm Radiohead Fusion Jazz - Brand X, Mahavisnhou Orchestra Space psych Rock - early Gong, I don't know them but Hawkwind Krautrock - Amon Düül II, Can...and Guru Guru Prog Metal (I know Phillipe, I know Retro - The Flower Kings ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 14:13
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diddy, great picks...ditto for me :) ------------- 'This is a local shop, there's nothing for you here' |
Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 14:15
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Hummmmm... Just some sub-genres: Art Rock: Anekdoten Canterbury: Caravan Jazz Fusion: Brand X Krautrock: Eloy (some elements) Space Psych: Pink Floyd Symph Rock: Genesis Prog Metal: Rhapsody Pop Prog: Kayak Folk Prog: Jethro Tull Italian Symph: Museo Rosenbach |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 15:35
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Sub-genres (in no order of preference) : Pomp-prog : Rush Neo-prog : Marillion art-rock : Supertramp (Your attention please : do not mistake art-rock for hard-prog, art-rock is a more commercial side of prog i.e. bands such as Roxy Music, Supertramp, Mannfred Mann's earth band... hard-prog is the darkest side of prog i.e. bands such as VDGG, KC or Anekdoten. OK ?) hard-prog : King Crimson electronic (aka "New Age") : Tangerine Dream Ambient : Eno Symphonic prog : earlier Genesis Classical prog : Emerson, lake & Palmer Zeuhl : Magma Canterbury : Caravan Space-rock : Pink Floyd Jazz-fusion : Soft Machine (post-Wyatt) Metal-prog : Dream Theater Rock In Opposition : Henry Cow (Chris Cutler founded this sub-genre) Folk-prog : Jethro Tull Continental-prog : Premiata Forneria Marconi Krautrock : Amon Düül II BTW : Gentle giant is symphonic prog and not art-rock and Flower Kings is symphonic prog too.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 15:49
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I found this wicked link - 'scuse me if you've seen it before, but the author clearly both loves his subject and writing about it, so thought I'd share (it's just about on-topic, as it discusses Art rock in depth) http://www.cosmik.com/aa-april01/golden_age_of_art_rock_1.html - http://www.cosmik.com/aa-april01/golden_age_of_art_rock_1.ht ml If the author is here - good show, sir! |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 15:52
Yes, you're maybe right with GG but the Flower Kings are Retro Prog, because for me Retro IS Symphonic, I always thought that Retro means newer bands trying to sound like 70' symphonic bands ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
lucas wrote:
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 15:58
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Artist -- Song -- Album -- Year 01 - Alan Parsons Project -- The Fall Of The House Of Usher -- Tales Of Mystery and Imagination -- 1973 02 - Allman Brothers -- In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed -- Idlewild South -- 1970 03 - Allman Brothers -- High Falls -- Win Lose or Draw -- 1976 04 - Arthur Brown -- The Fire Suite -- The Crazy World of Arthur Brown -- 1968 05 - Be Bop Deluxe -- Modern Music Suite -- Modern Music -- 1977 06 - Beatles -- Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band -- Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band -- 1967 07 - Beatles -- Abbey Road (Side 2) -- Abbey Road -- 1969 08 - Camel -- Lady Fantasy -- Mirage -- 1974 09 - Caravan -- 9 Feet Underground -- In The Land Of Grey and Pink -- 1971 10 - Caravan -- The Love In Your Eye -- Caravan and The New Symphonia -- 1973 11 - Caravan -- For Richard -- Caravan and The New Symphonia -- 1973 12 - Caravan -- The Dabsong Concerto -- Cunning Stunts -- 1975 13 - Chad & Jeremy -- The Progress Suite -- Of Cabbages and Kings -- 1968 14 - Chicago (C.T.A.) -- Liberation -- Chicago Transit Authority -- 1969 15 - Chris Squire -- Safe -- Fish Out Of Water -- 1975 16 - Deep Purple -- Child In Time -- In Rock -- 1969 17 - Electric Light Orchestra -- Kuiama -- ELO II -- 1972 18 - Electric Light Orchestra -- El Dorado -- El Dorado -- 1974 19 - Emerson Lake and Palmer -- Tarkus (Side 1) -- Tarkus -- 1971 20 - Emerson Lake and Palmer -- Karn Evil 9 (3 Impressions) -- Brain Salad Surgery -- 1973 21 - Focus -- Answers Questions -- Focus 3 -- 1973 22 - Focus -- Anonymous II -- Focus 3 -- 1973 23 - Focus -- Hamburger Concerto -- Hamburger Concerto -- 1974 24 - Genesis -- Supper's Ready -- Foxtrot -- 1972 25 - Genesis -- Cinema Show -- Selling England By The Pound -- 1973 26 - Genesis -- The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway -- The Lamb Lies Down On Braodway -- 1975 27 - Grateful Dead -- Terrapin Station -- Terrapin Station -- 1977 28 - Harry Nilsson -- The Point -- The Point -- 1971 29 - Iron Butterfly -- In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida -- In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida -- 1968 30 - It's a Beautiful Day -- It's A Beautiful Day (Side 2) -- It's A Beautiful Day -- 1969 31 - Jade Warrior -- Floating World -- Floating World -- 1974 32 - Jade Warrior -- Waves -- Waves -- 1975 33 - Jade Warrior -- Kites -- Kites -- 1976 34 - Jade Warrior -- Way Of The Sun (Side 1) -- Way Of The Sun -- 1978 35 - Jefferson Airplane -- How Suite It Is -- After Bathing At Baxter's -- 1968 36 - Jethro Tull -- Thick As A Brick -- Thick As A Brick -- 1973 37 - Jethro Tull -- Passion Play -- Passion Play -- 1974 38 - Jimi Hendrix -- Voodoo Child (side A) and 1983 (side C) -- Electric Ladyland -- 1968 39 - John Anderson -- Olias of Sunhillow -- Olias of Sunhillow -- 1975 40 - John Sebastian -- The Four of Us -- The Four Of Us -- 1971 41 - Kevin Godley and Lol Crème -- Consequences -- Consequences -- 1976 42 - King Crimson -- Moonchild -- In the Court Of The Crimson King -- 1970 43 - King Crimson -- Lark's Tongue in Aspic -- Larks Tongue in Aspic -- 1973 44 - Love -- Revelation -- Da Capo -- 1967 45 - McDonald & Giles -- The Birdman -- McDonald & Giles -- 1971 46 - Mike Oldfield -- Tubular Bells -- Tubular Bells -- 1973 47 - Moody Blues -- In Search Of The Lost Chord -- In Search Of The Lost Chord -- 1968 48 - Moody Blues -- On The Threshold Of A Dream -- On The Threshold Of a Dream -- 1969 49 - Moody Blues -- To Our Children's Children's Children -- To Our Children's Children's Children -- 1969 50 - Moody Blues -- A Question Of Balance -- A Question of Balance -- 1970 51 - Nektar -- Remember The Future -- Remember The Future -- 1973 52 - Nektar -- A Tab In The Ocean -- A Tab In The Ocean -- 1975 53 - Nektar -- Recycled -- Recycled -- 1976 54 - Pablo Cruise -- Ocean Breeze -- Pablo Cruise -- 1975 55 - Patrick Moraz -- I -- I -- 1976 56 - Paul Kantner -- Blows Against the Empire -- Blows Against The Empire -- 1970 57 - Pink Floyd -- Sysyphus -- Ummagumma -- 1969 58 - Pink Floyd -- Atom Heart Mother -- Atom Heart Mother -- 1970 59 - Pink Floyd -- Echoes -- Meddle -- 1971 60 - Pink Floyd -- Dark Side Of The Moon -- Dark Side Of The Moon -- 1973 61 - Pink Floyd -- Wish You Were Here -- Wish You Were Here -- 1975 62 - Pink Floyd -- Animals -- Animals -- 1977 63 - Pink Floyd -- The Wall -- The Wall -- 1979 64 - Premiata Forneria Marconi -- Alta Loma Nine To Five -- Cook -- 1974 65 - Procol Harum -- In Held Twas In I -- Shine On Brightly -- 1968 66 - Quicksilver -- The Fool -- Quicksilver Messenger Service -- 1967 67 - Rick Wakeman -- Music Reincarnate -- No Earthly Connection -- 1976 68 - Rush -- 2112 -- 2112 -- 1975 69 - Santana -- Black Magic Woman Suite -- Abraxas -- 1970 70 - Small Faces -- Happiness Stan -- Ogden's Nut Gone Flake -- 1968 71 - Soft Machine -- Thirds (four different side long songs) -- Thirds -- 1970 72 - Steve Hillage -- Aftaglid -- Fish Rising -- 1975 73 - Steve Miller Band -- Children Of The Future Side 2 -- Children Of The Future -- 1968 74 - Styx -- Movement For The Common Man -- Styx -- 1972 75 - The Chambers Brothers -- Love Peace and Happiness -- Love Peace and Happiness -- 1969 76 - The Nice -- She Belongs To Me -- The Nice -- 1969 77 - The Nice -- Ars Longa Vita Brevis -- Ars Long Vita Brevis -- 1969 78 - The Rascals -- Once Upon A Dream -- Once Upon A Dream -- 1968 79 - The Strawbs -- Hero And Heroine Suite -- Hero and Heroine -- 1973 80 - The Who -- The Who Sell Out Side 1 -- The Who Sell Out -- 1968 81 - The Who -- Tommy -- Tommy -- 1969 82 - The Who -- Quadrophenia -- Quadrophenia -- 1974 83 - Todd Rundgren -- International Feel (The Wizard Side) -- A Wizard/A True Star -- 1973 84 - Todd Rundgren & Utopia -- The Ikon -- Utopia -- 1975 85 - Todd Rundgren & Utopia -- Singring And The Glass Guitar -- RA -- 1977 86 - Traffic -- The Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys - The Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys -- 1973 87 - United Kingdom -- In The Dead Of Night -- United Kingdom -- 1978 88 - Webber and Rice -- Jesus Christ Superstar -- Jesus Christ Superstar -- 1971 89 - Yes -- Close To The Edge -- Close To The Edge -- 1971 90 - Yes -- Heart Of The Sunrise -- Fragile -- 1972 91 - Yes -- Tales From Topographic Oceans -- Tales From Topographic Oceans -- 1974 92 - Yes -- The Gates Of Delerium -- Relayer -- 1976 93 - Yes -- Awaken -- Going For The One -- 1977 94 - Zappa -- Absolutely Free -- Absolutely Free -- 1967 95 - Zappa -- We're Only In It For The Money -- We're Only In It For The Money -- 1968 96 - Zappa -- Lumpy Gravy -- Lumpy Gravy -- 1968 97 - Zappa -- Billy The Mountain -- Just Another Band From LA -- 1972 98 - Zappa -- Don't Eat The Yellow Snow -- Apostrophe -- 1973 99 - Zappa -- Greggary Peccary -- Studio Tan -- 1976 100 - Zappa -- Joe's Garage -- Joe's Garage Volumes 1 & 2 -- 1979 http://www.cosmik.com/bios/rusty_bio.html - (C) 2001 - Rusty Pipes
So Art-rock is everyone then??!!
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Posted By: Stormcrow
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 16:17
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Naw! Some of those aren't art rock, but other genres of prog. I think he's painting with too wide a brush. I know what he's saying, but I disagree with his terminology. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 16:41
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A few prog sub-genres...major representative bands: Art Rock: King Crimson Canterbury: Gong Metal prog: ??? neo- prog: Marillion Krautrock: Faust Fusion Jazz: Mahavishnu Orchestra Symph prog rock: Wallenstein Space rock: Brainticket
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Posted By: arqwave
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 16:56
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to me: just look at the main page of progarchives peace |
Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 19:02
| I think mr. Pipes, as well as countless other people who study music, fail to subdivide prog into its separate categories. All Music Guide made the same error (if anyone has visited the site, you will know what I mean) |