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Topic: More and more reviews...
Posted By: AlexUC
Subject: More and more reviews...
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 13:41
Just received the weekly PA feed, and I was curious about the most popular albums:

3 Most Popular Albums or DVD/Videos of the week

  • ../album.asp?id=1827 - YES - CLOSE TO THE EDGE Symphonic Prog, Studio Album (1972) | 11 ratings/reviews
  • ../album.asp?id=1441 - PINK FLOYD - WISH YOU WERE HERE Psychedelic/Space Rock, Studio Album (1975) | 9 ratings/reviews
  • ../album.asp?id=1903 - KING CRIMSON - IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING Eclectic Prog, Studio Album (1969) | 9 ratings/reviews

Seems we're stuck on the same albums... And I'm sure Selling England, Foxtrot, Dark side, Animals... etc.. are not too far. I've noticed lately more and more reviews of 100+ reviews albums (well, just like always) even from prog reviewers. I'm not sure if this is very useful (please don't got me wrong, I know this is a public site and everybody can post any reviews as they want and I'm OK with it), do you guys and girls read all those reviews of OVER-known albums? Are these reviews useful for you? What do you think?

No offense or accusation intended, please let's take it as positive feedback Thumbs Up


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 13:44
I think it's a good point! Though wouldn't know really how to solve this "issue"...


Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 13:45
Well you can't review something that's lesser known everyday. I just reviewed "The Power To Believe" mostly to get it off my list of things to review and to keep my writing sharp. Some people such as myself just want to review everything in their collection.

Personally I think a review of something that's already got a lot of reviews is better than no review at all, although I do try to review stuff that's a little lesser known whenever I can.

Classics are classics for a reason, they inspire people.


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 13:45
Stop having people review these albums?


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 13:52
Originally posted by AlexUC AlexUC wrote:

Just received the weekly PA feed, and I was curious about the most popular albums:

3 Most Popular Albums or DVD/Videos of the week

  • ../album.asp?id=1827 - YES - CLOSE TO THE EDGE Symphonic Prog, Studio Album (1972) | 11 ratings/reviews
  • ../album.asp?id=1441 - PINK FLOYD - WISH YOU WERE HERE Psychedelic/Space Rock, Studio Album (1975) | 9 ratings/reviews
  • ../album.asp?id=1903 - KING CRIMSON - IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING Eclectic Prog, Studio Album (1969) | 9 ratings/reviews

Seems we're stuck on the same albums... And I'm sure Selling England, Foxtrot, Dark side, Animals... etc.. are not too far. I've noticed lately more and more reviews of 100+ reviews albums (well, just like always) even from prog reviewers. I'm not sure if this is very useful (please don't got me wrong, I know this is a public site and everybody can post any reviews as they want and I'm OK with it), do you guys and girls read all those reviews of OVER-known albums? Are these reviews useful for you? What do you think?

No offense or accusation intended, please let's take it as positive feedback Thumbs Up


I want to know who hasn't ever heard those and then we should track them down and force them to.


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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:00
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

Stop having people review these albums?


Why?


Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:07
I see a contradiction. Most of the lasts reviews of these albums starts like "Nothing else can be said about this album". I can't understand, then what's the use?

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Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:09
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

Stop having people review these albums?
This is not the point


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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:12
Originally posted by AlexUC AlexUC wrote:

I see a contradiction. Most of the lasts reviews of these albums starts like "Nothing else can be said about this album". I can't understand, then what's the use?


True, those are kind of annoying, but some people just like to say something about the album - even if it is simply that they appreciate it.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:23
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Some people such as myself just want to review everything in their collection.

Personally I think a review of something that's already got a lot of reviews is better than no review at all, although I do try to review stuff that's a little lesser known whenever I can.

Classics are classics for a reason, they inspire people.
 
QFT.
 
The classics make for a "music in common" reference point for users of other reviews and since this site somewhat frowns upon just rating albums without reviews, some sort of review must be written. 
 
Another use of these "pointless reviews" is if I am reading someone's review about "The Album That Noone Has Ever Heard" from The Unknowns, I might be tempted to see what that reviewer's ratings/reviews were on other albums.  The classics have the best chance of being the "music in common" to try and decide whether the reviewer and I have similar tastes. 
 
In any case, every user on here has the right to rate and write their review about any album included on PA, and make it be known their position on those albums.  It would be nice to see a more inspired review than "everything that can be said about this album has already been said" but I guess with some of these classics that is already the case. WinkLOL  Actually, I wish I could find the thread but I couldn't. There was a thread started about a year ago which somewhat answered your question.  A guy wrote the 510th review of the Dark Side of the Moon and it was an absolutely spectacular review.  It is those type of reviews that are still out there that haven't been written about the classics that still need to be written. 


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:29
I am no respecter of albums, meaning I give the same attention (and a track by track assessment) of every album I review, whether it has 900 reviews or 9.

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Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:43
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Some people such as myself just want to review everything in their collection.

Personally I think a review of something that's already got a lot of reviews is better than no review at all, although I do try to review stuff that's a little lesser known whenever I can.

Classics are classics for a reason, they inspire people.
 
QFT.
 
The classics make for a "music in common" reference point for users of other reviews and since this site somewhat frowns upon just rating albums without reviews, some sort of review must be written. 
 
Another use of these "pointless reviews" is if I am reading someone's review about "The Album That Noone Has Ever Heard" from The Unknowns, I might be tempted to see what that reviewer's ratings/reviews were on other albums.  The classics have the best chance of being the "music in common" to try and decide whether the reviewer and I have similar tastes. 
 
In any case, every user on here has the right to rate and write their review about any album included on PA, and make it be known their position on those albums.  It would be nice to see a more inspired review than "everything that can be said about this album has already been said" but I guess with some of these classics that is already the case. WinkLOL  Actually, I wish I could find the thread but I couldn't. There was a thread started about a year ago which somewhat answered your question.  A guy wrote the 510th review of the Dark Side of the Moon and it was an absolutely spectacular review.  It is those type of reviews that are still out there that haven't been written about the classics that still need to be written. 
This is a very solid point. Thanks Thumbs Up


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:50
I have favorite reviewers and I like to know what they think of those famous albums too. Not only what they think of unknown albums. Inspiring reviews always makes me seek out the music described in them wether or not the album is famous or not and I think thatīs one of the main goals for visiting PA for me. Inspiration.


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:52
And people might have another angle than mine on the music that I can learn from too. Multible reviews = Multible angles.


Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 20 2009 at 04:43
I don't mind reading those reviews. In fact my day probably wouldn't be complete if not for the daily new review of 'Close to the Edge'.  Wink
 
But honestly, why not?  It doesn't take away space from anything else, and I don't have to read it if I don't want to.


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: January 20 2009 at 10:02
exactly my point. Itīs your choice if you want to read yet another review of Close to the Edge but itīs great that the oppertunity is there if someone wants to.


Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: January 20 2009 at 10:35
I welcome always see new reviews of well know albums, no problem for me in that aspect.


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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 07:49
I recently worte some reviews from some well known album as LLDOB , CTTE , TFTO but also wrote a couple of ones of Invisible , a band from my country whose marvellous albums have less than 20 ratings.


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 08:03
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

I have favorite reviewers and I like to know what they think of those famous albums too. Not only what they think of unknown albums. Inspiring reviews always makes me seek out the music described in them wether or not the album is famous or not and I think thatīs one of the main goals for visiting PA for me. Inspiration.
 
Great said UMURClapI'm agree


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 08:04
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

And people might have another angle than mine on the music that I can learn from too. Multible reviews = Multible angles.
 
Again totaly agree with youThumbs Up


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 08:18
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

Stop having people review these albums?
 
This may be an interesting option when the number of reviews exceeds the number of PA forum members.
But if I find the time and the inspiration to write reviews, I'll focus on albums with a small number of ratings (let's say less than 25).
 


Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 08:57
Even if the 510th review is spectacular, are you supposed to read the first 509 to get to it?  These things have been reviewed to death and if anyone wants to check them out, there is more than enough said already.  How many times have you wanted to look into an obscure album and found one or two half-baked reviews that don't help you?  That is what is frustrating.  And you can't really take solace in the 900th CTTE review.

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 11:34
I still come across reviews that cause me to go back to those overexposed albums. Not always, but often enough. As for a partial solution hHw about the rest of us try to review more of the lesser known albums ?
I used to hesitate because I figured unless it was perfect, why offer up my opinion. But then with a few disappointing acquisitions, I felt "hey, if I feel this way, let it out". I'm also setting myself up for a few rave Morse Code reviews after dinging their 1995 effort.


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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 12:29
yawn, like today somebody said if you don't own and know SEBTP, then you cannot call yourself a prog fan.  It's not that I am opposed to reviews of the "classics", but that how many of them are written by people who sign up and then think they can tell me whether I am a fan or not (I do have and own SEBTP, and like it alot, but rarely want to hear it, just so you know).  And so many of those reviews start off with a statement that makes me want to read no further, like "I love this album".  "This is XX's best album", "This is a masterpiece".  We like to make fun of critics as frustrated musicians who can't do so they criticize, but reviews like that prove that there is an art to good reviewing, and a well written review, that draws me in subtly and engagingly, whether agreeing with or disputing my own view, is a joy to read.  I know I'm OT at this point  Wink



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