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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
Forum Description: Make or seek recommendations and discuss specific prog albums
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Topic: In need of recommendations
Posted By: MerryMaker
Subject: In need of recommendations
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 14:58
Hello all. Sorry for yet another recommendations thread, but thats what this section is for right??
 
I want to dig a little deeper into prog. I'm not a total beginner but if you could recommend some less popular/more obscure bands that would fit my tastes that would be great!
 
Here is what I'm currently listening too: Supertramp - Crime of The Century, Klaatu - Their first one and Hope, ELP - Their first one and Brain Salad, Moody Blues - Childrens Children. Everything from Rush. I really like what I've heard from Gentle Giant too, I am getting Octopus in the next couple of days. I also really like what I've heard from Van Der Graaf Generator, but don't own any of their albums yet.
 
So as you see, some fairly known bands. Except maybe Klaatu. What I think these bands have in common is the ability to "go all out" and experiment but also have the ability to settle down and write good beautiful mellow tunes. And they all have great singers IMO. So I guess thats what I'm looking for.
 
Please recommend something like these bands please Smile



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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 02:37
King Crimson must surely be a glaring ommission in the list above?
As there seems to be a leaning towards the more melodic in that list, perhaps I could suggest 'Renaissance'?
Also possibly 'Pocupine Tree', where you simply just can't go wrong.
And of course Tori Amos, whose absence on this site will surely see the collaborators roast in hell Tongue


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:03
Get VDDG. And Taal. Nobody talks about Taal anymore! I guarantee you will like Taal, I don't care what you have to do to get Skymind.
 
Please don't get Porcupine Tree, you'll become one of them. ;-)


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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:05
Henry Plainview: What the hell do you think you're doing? We almost had him!


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:07
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Henry Plainview: What the hell do you think you're doing? We almost had him!
The last thing we need is another person who thinks Tori Amos is prog. ;-)
 
Also, don't mind me, I'm just bitter that PT is going to win Album of the Year again. ;-)


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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:21
You MUST get VDGG - and Pete Hammill's solo stuff, too.
 
I don't get the Tori Amos in-joke, but I wouldn't get any of Tori Amos' music either, if I were you.


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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:31
Oy!


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:31
Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

I don't get the Tori Amos in-joke
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53018 - I'm not even sure it's a http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45959 - joke !
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Oy!
See, you've upset him by insinuating it was a joke! It'll take him hours to get calmed down now!
 
I just remembered Archnoid. You would probably like them. And they're nothing like what you described, but mentioning 65daysofstatic in a recommendation thread is obligatory for me. Then Henry Cow. ;-)


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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 04:32
^
SorryWink
 
Talking of obligatory recommendations, better do my PENDRAGON plug while I'm here. If nothing else check out PURE - awesome's an overused word on this site, but in this case it's fully justified.


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 05:25

From the list you show, i think you might like

Marillion
Script for a Jester's Tear (1983) 
Fugazi (1984)
 
And maby also (but a lot more "heavy")
The Mars Volta
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 06:25
Another great band, that most "new" to Prog often like,  from the classic period is Jethro Tull.
 
I would personaly start out with :
 
Heavy Horses ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978 - 1978 )
Aqualung ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971 - 1971 )
Songs from the Wood ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977 - 1977 )
 
If you like those, dig deeper with :
Minstrel in the Gallery ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975 - 1975 )
Thick as a Brick ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972 - 1972 )
Stormwatch ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979 - 1979 )
 
At this point you will know, if you should go on with older records, or new ones.


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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 06:36

Since you already like ELP, you really should pick up Tarkus and Pictures at an Exhibition.

Porcupine Tree is fantastic, but go for the older stuff first. The Sky Moves Sideways, Signify, Stupid Dream, Lightbulb Sun. I don't really understand why so many people here on the Archives rave about In Absentia and Deadwing, they're easily PT's weakest albums. To me, PT haven't really been the same since Chris Maitland left and was replaced by Gavin Harrison although Fear of a Blank Planet was a step in the right direction and a return towards the PT of old.



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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 06:47
Procupine is later - continue with your discovery of the basic's.  !!


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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 07:17
^I think MerryMaker would do best in ignoring Porcupine Tree + Pendragon and Marillion forever, and I defenatly agree that he should check out the real stuff first.

The smartest thing would be checking out some likable classics such as King Crimson: In the Court..., VdGG: He to H .... or PFM: Storia di un Minuto. No matter how much I love RIO, I wouldn't reccomend someone going directly from Supertramp and Klaatu to Henry Cow.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 11:45
Heyyy, I like Amos and PT.

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 11:55
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Henry Plainview: What the hell do you think you're doing? We almost had him!
The last thing we need is another person who thinks Tori Amos is prog. ;-)
 


Well, there are quite a few people that do - actually, she might even get added one of these days. Hope that won't bother you too much...

Now, back to the topic at hand... If you (the thread starter) are looking for something with melody (as seems evident from your list in the original post), I'd suggest you try Caravan, and if you like them you can go for some more Canterbury (please refer to the subgenre description that you can find on the home page).


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 11:57
No mention of Genesis and Floyd, or are they just too obvious to bother with? Cant go wrong with Animals and Foxtrot at all though. Marillions first four albums are excellent.You might get a kick out of White Willow as well, try Sacrament and Storm Season first then the other three afterwards. Wobbler is also a nice to try.

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 12:00
Get this album:
 
Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial


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Posted By: MerryMaker
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 12:24

Thank you all! I'm aware of Tull, Marilion (I dont remember right now, but the album that Kayleigh is one...I like them, but they sound too 80s and "sweet" some times...) Floyd and also Genesis, but not soo much, I haven't heard all of Genesis early albums, so will have to do myself the favour of picking up more of those.

I did a quick run to youtube and that Pavlovs Dog album sounds really good, I have added that to my list of "albums to get" Smile
 
Also Caravan and the Canterbury scene, thank you!


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 12:29
Yay for Canterbury!


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 12:33
Do you actually not listen to Yes, or is it so brain-dead obvious that you would that recommending them would be stupid?  Wink

Echoing others here, start with H to He from VdGG, KC's debut and the three Wetton era albums, and fill out your GG collection.


Posted By: MerryMaker
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 13:45
Of all the Yes albums I have only heard Fragile. But you're right I really need to get some more of them too!
 
But yeah. The goal seems clear so far, get Genesis albums, VDGG albums, Yes albums, King Crimson albums, Gentle Giant albums......That should have me occupied for some time I should think!! 


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 13:48
Originally posted by MerryMaker MerryMaker wrote:

Of all the Yes albums I have only heard Fragile. But you're right I really need to get some more of them too!
 
But yeah. The goal seems clear so far, get Genesis albums, VDGG albums, Yes albums, King Crimson albums, Gentle Giant albums......That should have me occupied for some time I should think!! 


This will certainly keep you busy!  LOL

It will provide you an excellent foundation of the classics, though.  Happy listening!


Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 13:49

Do you like ELP? Do you fancy dramatic italian vocals? If the answer is affirmative then get YS by Il balletto di Bronzo one of my favourite symphonic albums.



Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 14:32
Originally posted by MerryMaker MerryMaker wrote:

Of all the Yes albums I have only heard Fragile. But you're right I really need to get some more of them too!
 
But yeah. The goal seems clear so far, get Genesis albums, VDGG albums, Yes albums, King Crimson albums, Gentle Giant albums......That should have me occupied for some time I should think!! 
 
Dont forget Jethro Tull - they are basic too


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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 14:53
For Rush fans, two bands that I always like to recommend are Fates Warning and Tiles.  Fates Warning are kind of a cross between Rush and Dream Theater.  Their albums are produced by Terry Brown who produced many of Rush's earlier albums, and I find there to be some similiarities in the sound of the drums. 
 
Tiles are a band from my state of Michigan, who have been compared at times with Rush, although bassist Jeff Whittle suggested that this was only on their first album in his interview here on PA.  They also use Terry Brown as their producer, and their most recent album, Fly Paper, includes guest appearances from Alex Lifeson and Rupert Hines. 
 
That said, in reading the previous posts, I would have to agree with previous posters that it probably would also be a good idea to explore the earlier albums of the founding fathers of prog.


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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:56
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Yay for Canterbury!
 
Yay indeed. Go for Caravan, Hatfield and (if you can get it) Matching Mole's Little Red Record.
 
And I insistWink you try Pendragon's Pure - I understand why some people might not rate it, but if you don't like it, nothing lost.
 
As someone mentioned founding fathers, check out Floyd's Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and the Crazy World of Arthur Brown. Also Tull's Stand Up.
 
For guitar-dominated stuff there's Wishbone Ash (try Argus) and I defy you Wink not to appreciate Camels the Snow Goose and You by Gong.


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