How can I give rates to the records?
Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Topics not related to music
Forum Name: I Have A Question For You......?
Forum Description: Ask any question on any subject: if the admin team or any of our members can answer it we will.
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=54508
Printed Date: November 29 2024 at 18:52
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: How can I give rates to the records?
Posted By: Pamastrike
Subject: How can I give rates to the records?
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 16:09
|
I want to give my rates to albums too but i can't, how can i??? |
Replies:
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 16:43
|
Just go to the page of the album you want to review, and scroll down to the reviews. There's a link there called 'Submit a review'. Click that and follow the steps - if asked to logon use your forum credentials. Make sure to read the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13152 - review guidelines before posting a review.  ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Pamastrike
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 17:03
| thank you |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 17:18
Can we remember that rating albums is not just an exercise in giving 1 star to the genres we hate and 5 stars to the ones we love. |
Posted By: Pamastrike
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 17:23
| i only rate albums that i have listen more than 5 times always |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 17:38
Ok, good. Even better, do some reviews. |
Pamastrike wrote:Posted By: Pamastrike
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 17:51
| i am a bit laizy(is this the right way to write?) to write review lol besides in english sometimes i don't know some words and if i write in portuguese nobody understand. |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 02:02
There are some website which focus on ratings, not reviews ... 
------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 02:10
^Which website would that be Mike?
------------- 
|
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 02:18
|
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 02:24
 -------------
|
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 03:46
|
I wonder....
------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Pamastrike
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 12:07
| ah ah ah very funny to watch you make fun of me ok... so i will write on other topics, before Zee Gerrmans get herrre |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 12:18
Oddly enough I never realized chimpanzees feet were more like hands. Not sure if I should be thankful we've developed feet like we have. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
|
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 12:19
|
They weren't making fun of you Pamastrike. Mr. Prog Freak also has a prog rating site which he promotes here on PA and his self-promotion is a bit of an inside joke amongst the regulars. ------------- 
|
Posted By: Pamastrike
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 12:21
| lol i was kiding too lol, i did not take that in a bad way lol |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: January 11 2009 at 15:53
Go to the bottom of an album and click submit a review, and you're good to go.
------------- 
Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 06:45
It's not?
Damn.
|
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 07:56
Strange....  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 06:46
Obligatory January pantomine joke alert:
Oh no it's not!  ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 07:08
|
Almost 4 years of being on PA and I still haven't rated an album without reviewing.
------------- 
|
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 07:18
Neither have I, and I'm not going to start any time soon . |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 08:21
 remembers me that I still have some ratings only leftover from the early beginning of my career here ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 08:24
You can do that at PF ... that's what I made the website for. Be Dr. Jekyll here and Mr. Hyde at my place ... ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 08:44
Neither do I, as a fact I believe no Collaborator or member should do it, as Tony said once, ratings without reviews are mainly for members with problems writing in English.
Iván ------------- 
|
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 08:59
|
^ And that's always a stretched un-official rule. If I would personally know English poorly (or not at all), I wouldn't join an English site in the first place. Beyond the fact that rating without reviewing is a blank, lazy way of appreciating an album (in some cases - I'm talking here about the negative pole), it takes to access 3-4 links to visualize the list of ratings without reviews (and 90% of the readers will automatically not do that at all), plus the rate counts so little, it's close to insignificant. Putting myself in the situation of a RWR, with the abovementioned in mind, I would hardly feel motivated to leave my "tiny" signature. Ergo, rating without reviewing makes almost no sense. I read, in average, 20 new reviews every day I wake up and end the day reading 30 to 50 other new reviews. That's a sign that PA is way more than ratings, maths, tops & such. (There, I've ranted. )-------------
|
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 09:26
|
^ I disagree. It's true that here, where RWRs aren't shown and users can't edit them and they carry little weight in the rating algorithm, they make very little sense. However, the way they're implemented at PF the situation is very different IMO. You might have the time to read dozens of reviews each day, I don't. I need ratings and tags to narrow down the list of albums to choose from.
------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 09:32
That sounds about "write". -------------
|
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 09:37
|
Or how about this: Be a do-gooder here and a freak at PF.
------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 10:11
1 year, and I haven't reviewed an album without rating it |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:05
You know Rico I'm an enemy of the RWR, because I honestly don't trust them, i don't know if the user has even heard the album, I read the reviews, I can't care less for the rating, but it's not my call.
It's also true I wouldn't join a site in Japanese or Russian, because I would be loosing my time.
As you say in your quoted post, I never read the RWR, because it's silly, I don't even knoww the name of the person, only an Internet nick, so..........What's the point of knowing that I'm_a_styx_fan rated The Grand Illusion with 5 stars?
Iván -------------
|
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:10
I've only written one review at PF, but I've gotten up to about 90-something ratings! |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:59
|
I have 1155 ratings on ProgFreak, almost all without reviews, although some at least have quick comments. I have only reviewed about 30 albums here on PA, all with reviews. Like it or not, ProgFreak is going to give anyone interested in my tastes a better idea of what I like and don't like than PA will. I've considered adding reviews without ratings here as "temporary" placeholders until I get around to writing the actual reviews, but at my current pace of writing reviews it would probably take me about 50 years to write all of the reviews that I would have to write.
I think that ratings without reviews come in handy in cases where you know the reviewer's tastes either from reading other reviews or talking to them in the forums. I think they also come in handy when you are unfamiliar with a reviewer of a particular album but you can compare their tastes with another common album. i.e. There is no need for me to write the 510th review of Close to the Edge, but since it is such a landmark album it might be a good idea to tell people that I think it is a 5 star album even if I don't have a new and creative way to write about it. I have no idea if anybody else uses this comparison method or not, but I know that on occasion if I read a review on the front page from someone I am not familiar with and it intrigues me I will look to see what else that person has reviewed to see how their tastes compare with mine. Obviously, a review with words will tell me more, but a rating might suffice in this instance too.
-------------
|
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 13:18
|
Scott, please explain me what's the point of reading individual votes in a rating alone?
In RWR the only thing that matters is the final average, in a review, you read it, you learn what the person says about a band or an album, you read arguments, thoughts and feelings.
I honestly believe RWR should be eliminated, but again, this is not my call and mailto:M@X - M@X has valid reasons to believe in this system.
Iván -------------
|
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 13:30
|
^ I think what Scott means is that there's a big difference between anonymous ratings and ones by people you know - either from other reviews or from forum discussions. Also, even if you don't know the people behind the rating, looking at all their ratings tells you something about them. That's how I calculate the "Related Users" on the profile pages ... I simply check the database for users which gave albums similar ratings. You're welcome to favor reviews and reject ratings ... I would say that they both have their advantages and disadvantages. I'd agree with Scott that the main problem about reviews is that they take so long to write. Most of us simply don't have the time to write a review for every album we like ... and that's where ratings can be quite useful. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 13:37
|
When I want to buy, say, a metal album I don't know anything about, I go to a website (say, metal-archives), check ratings for it, then see the reviews of those who rated it, and I also check other ratings by those reviewers for albums I've already heard. that gives me a good idea of what to expect. In the end, the actual INFO is gathered from the text of the review, not from the rating, but rating, at the same time, ar like a quick way to see, for example in this case, if a reviewer agrees with your overall tastes or not.
Both are useful. In theor own worlds.
Here, I haven't yet rated an album without reviewing it and I never will. And, even more: since a few months ago, I will review every album I hear  ... The lack of reviews by yours truly is surely an indication of the metallic ride he's been on lately...  ------------- 
|
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 14:25
If I am naive enough to believe the reviewer is following the PA review guidelines set forth on the review page then RWR's mean exactly this.
5 star = prog rock masterpiece
4 star = excellent addition to any prog collection
3 star = good, but not essential
2 star = fans/collectors
1 star = poor/for completionists only
As I have said numerous times in numerous threads, I do feel that a well-written review explaining the reason for a rating is far more valuable than a rating without a review. But what I am saying here is a rating without review is more valuable than no rating at all. My tastes aren't in line with many people here on PA, but there are a handful of people that are brothers from another mother or from whom I was separated at birth as we have similiar tastes. For those people, it might be interesting to them to know that I think the Umphrey's McGee albums are all 4-star albums, or that 1 is a 5-star, 2 are 4-stars and 1 is a 3-star. Sure it would be better if I had a review that said that the music made me feel a certain way, and this particular song blew my socks off, but until such time that I get around to writing that review, a rating without review would make a decent "temporary" placeholder. Sure this rating may only be of any value to a select few people. However, those who know my tastes from either reading my blog, or talking to me in the forums, or just seeing all the things that I am listening to in the What Are You Listening to Now?, thread there is that possibility that they might want to know what I think about some obscure album that they ran across and they remember seeing me listen to it. And of course, they could always PM me or ask me in the forums what I really thought about it, if they know that I have heard it.
For users who don't know me from Adam a rating without a review is probably virtually worthless. But for example, the album from Tin Scribble currently has 0 reviews. One of these days I will and I should write a review for it. If I were to add an RWR with a 4 star, that would mean that there was at least one person who thought that it was an excellent addition to a prog collection. If you were to investigate my reviews further and see that I gave Opeth all 5 star RWRs and Genesis all 1 star RWRs, you would probably immediately come to the conclusion that my 4-star rating for Tin Scribble didn't mean that it was a 4-star for you, or at least it might make you skeptical about my 4 star rating.
It certainly isn't an exact science, but neither are ratings with reviews. I've certainly read raving 5-star reviews here on PA for albums that I felt were complete rubbish, and 1 star reviews for albums that I thought were quite excellent. -------------
|
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 15:05
-------------
|
).Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 15:13
|
Oh my, how off topic did this go... Think I'm going to compose an epic on this - imagine a 7/4 acoustic guitar intro underneath this lyrics, and then probably a Hammond or a flute joining in: I don't look at the stars They're too remote What interests me Is what the listener wrote ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 15:16
Hey Angelo, it's very interesting to understand people's opinions even if you don't agree.
BTW: Love your quartet.
 Iván -------------
|
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 15:22
|
Well, Iván, it expresses how I feel about what is under discussion here. I trust the stars in the way Scott does, but what is written tells me most. If an album gets 5 stars, but the text is what helps me decide on whether I need to have a listen - or not.
------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 15:40
I think that the off topic-ness is some remaining residual from the Uncle Spooky thread, but at least it led to some potential 5-star prog lyrics and music.
-------------
|
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 15:45
------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 16:13
We're not so different in our views here, other than my thinking that there is a small place on here for ratings without reviews, but agreed that they have very limited uses.
Peace,
Scott -------------
|
