About Camel
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Topic: About Camel
Posted By: Jaja Macca
Subject: About Camel
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 01:10
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Hi, friends.
Despite the resume on Prog Archives, I would like to know your opinion about this wonderful Prog Band.
When and your feelings when you heard them at the first time. Your favorite albuns and music. Favorites members. Worst albums etc.
I think that there will be a lot of good and inteligent answers here.
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Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 01:17
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I love Camel!
Their classical phase are superb! Itīs very difficult to me choise one of the 3 master pieces: MIRAGE, SNOWGOOSE and MOONMADNESS. Three of the Great Prog albums from all the time! And the midle period is the weakest to me with the albums ICSYHFH and SF.
And I love the Latimer/Colin era. The 4 albums from this period are great, modern and very soulful.
Latimer has one of my favorite guitar works, and all the other musicians are great!
They are the number 4 band in my Top Prog Ranking
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 02:10
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Yeah, I love Camel too. Hearing the White Rider some four or five years ago blew my mind and since then I've been collecting pretty much all the Camel stuff I've gotten my hands on. Of course I love The Big Three from Mirage to Madness, but I think Rajaz and a Nod and a Wink are just as good. Five star albums all of them. I like all their albums to some degree and even the weakest (Breathless, Your House, Single Factor) have some fantastic songs on them. My favourite prog band.
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 04:10
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i love camel [im a fanboy camel is an amazing band .few bands have the feeling that camel have .
camel is soo good that people that dont like prog like this band. ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 12:23
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Fave albums: #1 Camel s/t (Six Ate) #2 Moonmadness (Chord Change) #3 Snow Goose and Rain Dances (Rhayader and One of this Days..) #4 Mirage and Rajaz(Lady Fantasy and Sahara) #5 Breathless and A Nod and a Wink (The Sleeper and For Today) Camel is a great band, often underrated. They have changed through genres a lot, and I like that quite a lot, of course in a good way. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 14:49
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Camel are the best band ever, IMO and The Snow Goose is the best album ever (ask me next week and I might say Moonmadness!). I've never met anyone who doesn't like it. Only Mostly Autumn, Genesis, IQ, Horslips and Runrig get anywhere near as much play on my CD player. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 15:27
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I love Camel. Especially their older work, as collected on sampler Echoes and on their live album A Live Record. I also like Nude a lot, and even The Single Factor.
As the years go by, I appreciate Camel even more and more.
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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 17:18
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Camel's work is very good to excellent -------------  |
Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 22:37
| I actually haven't heard anything by them, but Moonmadness just came in the mail and so I'll give that a spin as soon as I get a chance. |
Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 23:04
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You will love them KingCrimson, if you love good melodic and beautiful guitar sound.
Hey Cacho, my friend, you put ALL ALBUNS in you favs list  -------------
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 05:00
'Moonmadness' is one of the greatest prog albums ever recorded! Latimer and Bardens were at their collaborative best at that stage of Camel's grand career. Soon after, "Snow Geese" (is that the name?) was not nearly as good. Either Latimer or Bardens had left, and the band basically lost its soul... |
Jaja Macca wrote:Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 04:54
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I might not be the best person to ask because they've been one of my favourite bands and I loved all the albums they did. Anyway, their best are the first four, with a little preference for Moonmadness. The original lineup is I think the best. After Ian Ferguson was replaced by Richard Sinclair, they became more Jazzy and sometimes Genesis like. The period between Breathless and Single Factor (this last their worst album for sure), is when Mr Latimer lost Peter Bardens first, then Andy Ward remaining the only band's "owner", something similar to what Waters tried to do with Pink Floyd. Stationary Traveller in 1984, was a surprise, even if there's too much Fairlight as was usual in the 80s. This now makes it sound dated. After a lawsuit with his major, Latimer produced some good things like Harbour of tears and the old-style prog Rajaz, that's in my opinion, impressively one of the best things ever published under the Camel brand.
a hint: on http://www.camelproductions.com - www.camelproductions.com you can download for free a song called "Never let go". It's nt the well-known Camel classic, but a sort of elegy written by Andy Latimer after Peter Barden's death. I have found it really moving.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 05:01
| Another hint. If you really love Camel, and have already listened to all their production includung bootlegs, try Bellaphon. Thet are the Camel's Japanese clones. Nothing new, but nothing bad. |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 05:27
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I discovered Camel in a backwards kind of way. Whilst at University, someone I knew had a lot of bootleg cassettes, and he lent a few to me. One was by Camel, and I really liked it (it subsequently turns out that this became a semi-official album 'On The Road 1981' I think). I investigated further, and due to the era, 1984, I purchased Stationary Traveller, and as a follow up, Pressure Points Live. Got Nude, as tracks from this appeared on the cassette version of On The Road. Then there followed a backwards search through the catalogue, to discover wonders like Snow Goose, Mirage, Moonmadness etc...saving the best for last. But I still have a soft spot for Stationary Traveller, which doesn't generally seem to be a favourite amongst Camel fans. Great band, definitely one of may favourites, and my most played band on LastFM.com. -------------  Open the gates of the city wide....
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Posted By: Grobsch
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 10:27
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One of my favourites band!!! I like their albums till Mel Collins and the new ones...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 10:37
you think so....my opinion... '2nd division' prog, though not bad. Comitted the GRAVE sin of being eliminating ELP in a contest here, so damned to hell for all eternity in the eyes of some hahhaa f**king Camel that said... big thumbs up for Latimer on the geetar... great player. A big thumbs down for his vocals... even bigger thumbs down for the group not utilizing fully a great vocalist in Richard Sinclair when they got one, like on Raindances  favorite album... Snow Goose.. least.. the aforementioned Raindances ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 10:41
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Many won't agree with me but I rate Dust and Dreams, Harbour of Tears and A nod and a Wink the best of the Camel albums although I do enjoy their earlier work as well. Loved them for the past 25 odd years. The first album of theirs that I owned was Raindances and the next - The Snowgoose. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 10:43
 They did Mirage, which is an awesome album. The Snow Goose and Camel are both alright, though not really anything special. They then did Moonmadness, which is  In my view, Ward is the standout player, though Bardens and Latimer both have their moments every now and then. Not very fond of Doug Ferguson's bass. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 10:46
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Haven't listened to this band in a long while...Mirage is my favorite, and I really enjoy the Snow Goose as well. And, like Rob, I just can't get excited about Moonmadness, it's not terrible or anything, just doesn't contain anything that would make me say "ooh! I really want to put this on!" Camel are just so neutral for me - do not evoke a tremendous amount of excitement nor do they make me cringe in disgust. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 10:47
| i like rajaz the best and a bonus is that my woman likes it too so when she suggests listening to yanni i just throw on some camel instead, i don`t do yanni |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 13:48
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Camel is a pleasant listen, but that's it for me.
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: December 23 2008 at 14:08
My thoughts , exactly.
 I ve been geeting into Camel beyond their first four albums and there were 2 of them which were really good , Nude and Dust & Dreams. But I haven't heard A Nod and a Wink yet.
They could have been a much better band with Richard Sinclair from the beggining so Latimer doesn't have to sing.
Suming up Camel is an exellent addition to your prog musical collection.
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 08:03
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I have all their albums from Camel to Rain Dances in my PC. I like them but it's like there's something missing in their music to got me really into it. The sung parts are usually a bit boring in my opinion, that's probably it. My favourite album is Moonmadness. ------------- 
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 08:25
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I bought Snow Goose about a week ago, and kind of like it. Something's kind of missing though, and I don't know what... Maybe it just needs its time... ------------- 
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 08:26
Yeah, that's probably why I thought it was just okay too. -------------
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Posted By: Foolsdrummer
Date Posted: December 27 2008 at 05:16
| I actually quite quickly got into Camel. My favourites are Mirage and the Snow Goose. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 27 2008 at 10:40
A Nod and a Wink is for me their best album. |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 27 2008 at 14:44
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Mirage is easily the best that they released. Breathless or The Single Factor are probably the worst, but I'm not a fan of anything released after Nude or before Rajaz.
I Can See Your House From Here is their most underrated release. It's not nearly as bad as it's rep.
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Posted By: Fio
Date Posted: December 28 2008 at 00:23
| I got into Camel about two months ago. I stumbled across them on last.fm and yesterday I picked up Camel, Mirage, Moonmadness, and The Snow Goose. I've been working my way through these albums and I really love what I've been hearing. I can't wait to become more familiar with the material. As of now Mirage is my favorite. |
Posted By: WorkingMan
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 11:28
| I discovered this band 3-4 month ago and I love them!!!! I have Moonmadness, the snow Goose, Rain Dances and Breathless. I can hardly choose which is my favorite. I ordered Mirage. |
Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 16:33
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I love Moonmadness. Classic prog album. But Camel have other very cool albums such as Raindances, Camel, Breathless and Nude. They are my fave 5 Camel albums. I really enjoy several songs on I can see your house from here too. Snowgoose is fairly good too after a number of listens. I love Nimrodel and Supertwister, but the rest of Mirage is fairly dated and overrated imo ------------- Jazz/Classical Rock(70's style prog/fusion). Lots of prog keys and melodies(all original ideas) http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008 |
Posted By: rosenbach
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 15:31
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I discovered Camel in 1984 when i bought Stationary Traveller album after listening one song on the radio, then i looked for their 70's albums and since then is one of my favourite bands. The best ones for me are
1. Mirage 2. Snow Goose 3. Moonmadness I think their weakest albums are: I can see you house from here (with the exception onf the great Ice), Harbour of tears and A nod and a wink. Andy Latmer is a great guitar player with a caracteristic sound, hope he gets better to see him play alive again. |
Posted By: Fleetway
Date Posted: March 07 2009 at 15:30
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A bunch of years ago a friend sent me the song beached from nude as an mp3. I was a big fan of synth music and my fav band was goblin. But for some reason it didnt click the first time i heard it. It was good but i didnt feel like looking up who made it. The day after i relistened to it and it instantly made me google em. I found this site and listened to the songs avaible here. After that i downloaded their discography, ate it up. And now ive slowly been buying their albums aswell as the solo albums by its members.
My fav album is Mirage. But after that it becomes hard to rank em. There are so many great ones like the other 3 of their first 4 albums. Nude and stationery traveler. Harbour of tears and a nod and a wink. Its all sooooo good.
Bottom 3 goes 1: I can see your house from here(More prog then single factor, but i still like the single factor abit more) 2: The single factor (by far their most poppy album. Got afew good songs but overall it doesnt feel anything like camel) 3: Dust and dreams (havnt heard this album in ages so maybe ill change my mind about it if i hear it again. Its one of the few albums i have yet to buy).
Overall i would say even those 3 albums are 2.5 out of 5 stars in my book.
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 00:25
You are in for quite a treat! This is the best album of the Latimer/Bardens collaboration period, IMO... |