About YES
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Topic: About YES
Posted By: Jaja Macca
Subject: About YES
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 21:01
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Hi, friends.
Despite the resume on Prog Archives, I would like to know your opinion about this wonderful Prog Band.
When and your feelings when you heard them at the first time. Your favorite albuns and music. Favorites members. Worst albums etc.
I think that there will be a lot of good and inteligent answers here.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 21:17
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Okay, so you started 4 threads in Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation with the title "About (insert classic prog band that has been discussed to death here)" and then one in Prog Music Lounge. It's hard to tell if you are genuine, or just trying to fill spaces in the forum with clogging them on topics that do not need to be started, since there are probably literally 100s of threads on the topic already. Don't want to come across as a jerk, just want to know your intentions. ------------- 
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 21:39
| I think it is a polite, reasonable post, where is there a rule which says a subject cannot be discussed to death?? I think it is clear the poster just wants to discuss the band yes, why not?? |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 22:01
| Maybe he should use the search function, cause I garruntee he will find the answers to all of his questions. I dont think there has been anything left unsaid about Yes. |
Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 22:42
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Ok.
If I made a mistake, you can close the topic, because anyway I am sttepin out of a Forum where I cannot feeling fine.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 22:48
| You should stand your ground, you will meet friends here, the posters to your thread have no authority, the one poster replied to your brazilian band post which had 27 replies, he said he knew of one brazilian band and never named it, you will find controversy on the forum, you will find egos, you will find intelligent discussion, if you stay you will be fine |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 22:51
| this is what is sad about progarchives, I will shut up now, silence is golden |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 22:54
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This is a summary of most Yes discussions on this forum Yesfan1: I love Yes! All of their music is amazing, right up to 90125! Yesfan2: But I like 90210! It's not a bad pop album! Yesfan3: STFU n00b! It's 90125 and it sux. That and TFTO Yesfan4: TFTO rulez n00b! It's their best album ever. ELPfan1: Love Beach >>>>>>>> TFTO. The songs were too long! (mumbles something about Jon Anderson's vocals in "Ritual")
ELPfan2: Yeah and it was overblown and pompous and self indulgent!
Yesfan5: You suck n00b you listen to ELP. Stupid Tarkus...
Yesfan6: I don't know what you all are talking about cause Relayer is way better than either of them! And Drama is a really good album too and for some reason nobody listens to it!
Yesfan7: Hey I listened to "The Ladder" and it's amazing!
Yesfan8: You know nothing, "The ladder" sucks too, along with "Talk" and "Union"!
EVERYBODY: "Open Your Eyes" is the worst prog album ever!
This is my experience in Yes discussions.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 22:54
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Just as a note, I tried a search on Yes, and in the last 6 months alone in Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation, there is like, 10 topics. I think it needs about half a calorie of energy to scroll to the top of the screen and click search function. On the first page of Prog Bands, Artists and Genres alone there is the new Steven Wilson album, there is the PostRock/Math rock/Post Metal thread, the Tech/Extreme. One of which (the Wilson thread) is one about a new album that has barely been discussed yet, and the other 2 are threads that are always about finding the latest bands and discussing them, or bands that at the very least, are only a few years old and haven't been discussed to absolute death like Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd etc have. -------------
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 23:02
| forget yes, you made a new person feel bad, to me this is a NO, now you might want to argue about it, I am 60 years old, I don`t care to argue |
Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 00:02
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HughesJB4 wrote:Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 00:15
Thanks, guys. 
You are really good friends. I will stay in the Forum by the way.
And... let's go talking about Yes and Prog sound???  -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 00:40
If you're implying I "have an ego", please, I don't need that right now. I'm a very introverted person in real life that very much keeps to himself, and I get incredibly anxious when I'm thrust in the limelight among a group of people. It's pretty hard to be a narcissist when you're like that. I tend to be quite the opposite, quite hard on myself. And honestly, I can imagine there are many people here on PA that are very introverted and not particularly out going and don't have particularly good self esteem like myself too. I'm not one to impose myself on people for no reason, I was more than justified in asking the original poster to go the extremely small trouble of using the search function. -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 00:57
Yes, I understand your point, but don't fool yourself. A topic like this isn't going to really be anything substantial. There was a thread a while ago, where there was an argument about symphonic sound vs symphonic structure. One posted talked about Yes not having a great deal to do with Baroque music and it's lack of contrapuntal devices, talking about the harmonic structure. That was a really cool debate going on there, a really cool topic that actually......well, was substantial and brought something new to progarchives I believe. I admit, despite being a musician myself, I never really pondered whether Yes was far more influenced by the Romantic period than the Baroque. I learnt something there, even if it was something that I may have been able to learn myself eventually had I thrown on Yes and thought "hmmmm, there is a lack of counterpoint here". But instead, we have to resort to these shallow, rehashed discussions of "Favorite album, favorite band member, favorite era etc". That's all cool if the band if say, it's a very recent band that we haven't had much opportunity to discuss. But in some form or another, whether inside this forum, or elsewhere, Yes, Genesis or whatever, the "favorite album, favorite band member" etc thing has been done to absolute death. We can still discuss these bands, but how about looking at things like a more in depth, musical analysis/dissecting the music piece by piece so we get a clearer idea of the music (like some of the interesting posts in the Symphonic Sound Vs Symphonic Structure for example) just as an example perhaps. -------------
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Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 00:58
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Ok Mr. Hughes.
Let it go, man. Let's going talk about music. And if you don't want to answer this topic, no problem. But I think you have something cool to say about this bands.
Peace, love and good music, ok.
 Cheers!  -------------
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 06:12
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Well, I think as follows...
Yes is the band that has been constructed by every indivisualized, selfish, stubborn, and eccentric member (although lots of prog groups may have a similar character).
And, the FRAGILE Yes, that was CLOSE TO THE EDGE, was beyond words, I'm sure. It's a natural course for excellent prog groups, isn't it? ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 08:02
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 08:26
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FIrst off, JaJa Macca welcome to PA. I am glad to see your enthusiasm for participating in the forums here at PA. It is good to see such enthusiasm from a new member. However, as Hughes mentioned each of these big bands do have an appreciation thread within this section of the forum. I definitely recommend that you check these threads out to read members thoughts on these bands, as well as post your thoughts on these bands within those threads. The fact that you have already started all of these threads falls under "What's done is done", but I would definitely recommend that in the future you use the search function or just browse the threads to find previously created threads that fit the discussion that you would like to have. I realize that I'm not adding anything different to what Hughes already said, but I just thought it would be good to restate what was said a bit.
As has been mentioned, I think that you will find most of us forum members to be quite friendly, including Hughes. One of the issues with a public forum such as this is that you do have old members who are posting here all of the time and have discussed everything to death, mixing with new members such as yourself who are enthusiastic to talk about these items and bands. As there have already been some posts, I am sure that you will find some long-term forum members that are still happy to add their two cents, as well as other new members that are looking to discuss these bands within here for the first time.
At any event, please stick around, feel free to add your comments to any ongoing discussions, and have fun expanding your prog horizons. ------------- 
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:04
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Sure, some topics may be 'old hat' to some, but there are (thankfully) also new visitors all the time, and although a topic may have been done before, it doesn't mean that it won't be met with renewed interest. If there's no real interest, that topic will die soon anyway, and what's to stop anyone skipping threads they're not interested in? They don't knock other threads off the list, there's just more of them, and a good thing too!
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Posted By: Sunny In Jeddah
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:10
Yes! I do like Yes! 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:16
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I'm always open to thread of bands I know! Even if they have already been done! I've done the same many times, so don't worry, just in the lapse of time try not to do it..... In the meantime, here's my list of fave albums and songs from each one: #1 The Yes Album (Perpetual Change) #2 Drama (Does it Really Happen) #3 Fragile (Roundabout) #4 TFTO (The Revealing Science of God) #5 Relayer (To Be Over) #6 Time and a Word (Astral Traveller) #7 Yes (Survival) #8 Close to the Edge (Siberian Khatru) #9 Magnification (Dreamtime) #10 The Ladder (The Ladder) #11 GFTO (Parallels) I won't list the others since they don't rank IMO as for the quality of the ones listed. Worst album? Prog? or Pop? I can barely name a bad PROG album, but it must Big Generator as for Pop, 90125 is a very good POP album as well as 80's Genesis. My fave member is Chris Squire, for his amazing and innovating bass playing. Once again Welcome! |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:16
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Forgot to add one thing: If you're new to a forum there's a world of difference between discussing a topic with other individuals and reading past threads non-interactively.
And, by the way: Welcome Jaja Macca. HughesJB4 is a nice member on the forum here, he probably just didn't get any.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 14:18
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Hello Jaja Macca, i love Yes.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 14:21
My favorite prog band. 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 14:51
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 15:28
| Yes is my favourite band. I love about anything they did in the seventies, as well as the debut album from 1969, and 90125 and Keys To Ascension. |
Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 22:59
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Hello everybody.
First of all, sorry my bad English
 .So I never dream to make a lot of noise with all this discussion about "A new old topic"
 . And as you can see in my last answer to Mr. Hughes, I am a Peace man. So if the administrators of the Forum want close and erase the topics patient. If they leave them let's gonna talk about good music!
.And yes. I'm feeling very well in the forum!
Cheers, everybody -------------
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 07:21
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I see my mate HughesJB4 has been here as positive as always. Jaja - I first heard Yes as a teenager and the album was Relayer - it stunned me. To this day I rate the album as one of my all time favorites. I enjoyed Yes up until the time that Trevor Rabin joined them and almost single handedly destroyed all that I loved about their music. Now I know Rabin personally and he is a very good guitarist although his style did not suite the image of Yes that I had. He is not a Steve Howe because although he is technically proficient he doesn't have the touch and the feel of his instrument that Howe does. Trevor Rabin came from a Pop / Rock band in South Africa called Rabbit and one of his fellow musicians in Rabbit joined "the Bay City Rollers" (says it all doesn't it). Trevor almost took Yes down the same road that Phil Collins took Genesis. Love Yes without Rabin - "Roundabout" anyone?
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Posted By: peskypesky
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 11:15
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Yes is my favorite prog band. Genesis is second. King Crimson third. I was raised on Yes back in the 70s and still revere them to this day, even though I am super-pissed at Squire, howe and White for being such jerks to Anderson. Anyway, they created a LOT of amazing music for a long time.
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Posted By: bassman4
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 18:33
| I found Yes in73,I not only love the classics ,but tormato and Drama and ... I am going in 4 days to see them without Jon Anderson. Yes is Great ,so is any portion thereof ! |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 19:18
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Yes is also my favorite. Even though some of the albums don't rank, as Cacho feels, there's something good on all of them (just on some, more stuff sucks than is good!)
I also feel inclined to stick up for Rabin, who I feel saved the band from going under. The '80's were a different time, and Rabin contributed what he had, which happened to resonate way beyond to fans not necessarily into Prog. Howe had split, remember, not been fired, so it was time for Squire to find a replacement. You can argue, I suppose, that the Squire/Rabin/White/Kaye--Jobson lineup should've stuck with Cinema. But with Jon back, it really was Yes--just changed, like they did when Howe himself first joined. Getting wider popularity, and a Grammy to boot, to me, means that Squire could hardly have picked better.
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 01:43
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Yes, Rabin took Yes to the Grammy's but Yes was forever changed. I doubt that Yes would have become defunct if they kept their original sound - they were too strong musically. The 80's were a different time and to survive you have to make money and thus the mainstream / commercial track becomes a very viable and attractive option. Would you argue that that's why Collins destroyed the original Genesis sound?
I was watching an interview with Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater where he rabidly stated that he and the rest of Dream Theater would never let the mainstream commercial machine interfere with the band or its music - and they haven't. Music is either an art form or it is a bubblegum, teen, money making machine. I find no art whatsoever in what artists like Kylie Minogue and the "Pop Idol" crowd do.
Where music is art then I categorise it as being progressive and hence my continued argument for the inclusion of Stratovarius on this site. There's nothing pop about what they did.
Jaja - if you can get a listen in on either of the Elements albums by Stratovarius then do so - you will enjoy them. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 07:00
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^I disagree. Yes would have defunct surely with the original line-up just listen to Tormato, the last one with the original line-up before the "drastic" change. It's not their worst, but it's by no means a good Prog album, they were lacking of ideas, and therefore released Drama with Buggles members and that was a really good album with a different sound, but by miles much better than Tormato, it had original ideas and good blend of New Wave and Prog. Also check Union, the original line-up including BRUFORD, you should have expected another CTTE or other of the like, but no you have Big Generator mixed up with some really lazy stuff. I know the problem with the producer, still they weren't able to release any strong effort since GFTO. Magnification doesn't has Rick Wakeman, so for you it doesn't count. Oh and BTW, it's not nice to change of subject promoting your inclusion of a band that has been rejected many times. And something else, it wasn't Collins who destroyed the original Genesis sound. The 3 of them had participation to make a Pop band, Mike Rutherford writing one of the first pop singles from Genesis, Your Own Special Way. Rutherford also wrote many other singles, which that leads that Collins himself didn't ruin Genesis. I also think that the word 'destroy' isn't a good way of expressing something of a band sound. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 07:53
| I agree, both Rabin and Collins couldn't have changed the sound of their respective bands without the agreement of the other members. Rabin originally joined a band called "Cinema" and it was only when Anderson was brought in that they became Yes again, so you can't really blame him for that. |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 16:41
Not to mention the stuff that Roy Thomas Baker produced at the Paris sessions in '79, included on the remastered Tormato CD as bonus tracks (although they're so bad I refer to them as "bone-us")
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Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 20:43
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Well.
Yes is my favorite band. They have the best musicians (except the drummer), best composers, best albums mainly Yes Album, Close To The Edge, Tales and Relayer.
IMO I see The Rabin Era as other group, called Cinema. I love the records too. Different, but very, very good!
The Howe Return Era, has the only album that I dont like: Open Your Eyes. I can't believe how they made an album so weak... And I'm not a big fan od The Ladder. I made a Greatest hits of this Era in my Ipod, with the first music of this album and the best of Keystudio and Magnification. It works very well.
Now we have this fight between Band and Anderson. I think that they hardly play together again. But... let's believe.... -------------
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Posted By: bassman4
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 22:32
Ok How can you say Tormato was not a good prog album ? Are you not listening to the awesome effects on the bass ? This is oozing with prog! I love On The Silent Wings Of Freedom , and Release Release ! I listen to the whole record . What is it about this record that prog fans don't get ? and ,Drama is also a great record ! I would rather listen to both of those instead of Topagraphic Ocean |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 10:03
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Haven't got beyond Relayer so far, on the basis of that, Fragile is my favourite Yes album. South Side of The Sky is my favourite Yes song, so no surprises there . A very balanced band, so balanced I can't pick a favourite member which I can usually do with the other bands, say Hackett for Genesis, Hammil for VDGG, Thjis Van Leer for Focus and so on. A wonderful blend of accessibility and complexity; they are really not a difficult band to get into unless you start with Relayer or TFTO and yet there's so much to discover with repeated listening to the albums.
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Posted By: openair83
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 20:03
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Damn, this post has caused a lot of $#!+. Nonetheless...
Never paid attention 'til The Yes Album, which is fantastic. Still don't like to the first 2 albums. Fragile and CTTE are good albums. Yessongs is pretty decent for a live album. I think TOTO is a bit much for me to take in at one listen although it's my favorite, lyrically. Relayer is a great album, but GFTO remains my favorite, and most listened to, album. Tormato has one good tune (so I don't pay too much attention to it). Drama, though a good listen, is really just pre-Asia to me. Don't know how y'all feel about 90125, but personally, I really dig it. Other than Keystory (which I love) and Magnification (which I tolerate), that's about it for me on Yes.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 17:50
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I used to be addicted to Yes. They were my first intro to prog. Now I've moved on a little bit, but I still listen to the epics such as Close To The Edge, And You And I and Gates Of Delirium. There is just so much packed into them that it will take a good few decades to get bored. I really like the song In The Presence Of as well, very underrated for some strange reason.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 18:00
I can't think of anybody saying Tormato is a "good prog album", that doesn't mean people don't like it. But in general the keys from Rick are terrible, Jon's voice isn't at his best, Steve's guitar is quite sloppy and Chris's bass is nothing more than weak, except On the Silent Wings of Freedom and the first track. BTW, I love Drama. Chris' bass is awesome as well as Steve's guitar. Tales from Topographic Oceans is a love/hate album. I love it. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 00:17
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The best prog band ever...period. Their skill is only what most bands can only aspire to. The most consistent band known to man & not one 'duff' album until Union.
There, you have it!
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 03:32
Definitely! Definitely, Yes came up with its own Prog Sound. One of the classic sounds is Steve Howe on the electric steel guitar (through an echoplex, of course!) "And You and I" on CTTE and "Gates of Delirium" on Relayer stand out as the best use of electric steel guitar - EVER! The steel guitar was not created for country-western music; instead, it was created for Howe to give us great, creative solos on those classic prog songs!
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Posted By: peskypesky
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 09:53
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Well, I love "Tormato" and I do consider it a great prog album. Definitely. There's not a song on it that I don't like and there are several that I absolutely love. I understand that a lot of people don't like Squire's bass sound, Rick's keyboard sound and some of the overly-fey songs ("Circus Of Heaven", "Arriving UFO"), but those things have never bothered me. I love the mix of delicate beauty ("Onward", "Madrigal") with hard-rocking riffage ("Don't Kill the Whale", "On The Silent Wings of Freedom"). I also love "Topographic Oceans", so I guess that makes me a true Yesfreak.
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Posted By: Isengard
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 13:48
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Other than the Benoit David debacle, Yes have been and always will be a favorite of mine.
Not much else I can add that hasn't already been said.
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 00:12
| I wouldn't call Benoit David, personally, a debacle--he's gifted. Perhaps you mean the politics of the tour relative to Jon and Chris (same old, same old. . .) |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 12:33
| 'TORMATO' is a great prog album! |
Posted By: Lost Follower
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 17:41
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Dreadfully self indulgent and no balls at all. Well you did ask. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 17:50
Not actually, a Yesfreak must love Union and Open your Eyes, oh and Big Generator. TFTO love isn't any new news, I love it. I love all their albums from Yes(debut) to Relayer. Then Drama, The Ladder, Keystudio and Magnification are all very good ones. And 90125 is a very good pop album. There you have it. |
Posted By: peskypesky
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 20:43
Well, believe it or not, I recently got both "Union" and "Open Your Eyes", and I actually like them both!! lol Seriously! I mean, I don't put them up there with their work from the 70s, but I still find a lot of really cool music happening on both those albums. Sure, they're uneven, and lyrically vapid at times....but I still find stuff to like. I even like chunks of "Big Generator" and "Talk"! I'm insane!!!
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Posted By: bassman4
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 21:43
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I'm pretty sure I have all the Yes cd's. When a band has so many excellent tunes , I just accept and enjoy everything they offer . actually ,I can't name a single yes tune that bugs me. other bands with a single tune that bugs me : Led Zep - Tangerine S B - June Karmakanic - Losers game |
Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 15:03
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Posted By: bassman4
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 21:56
I guess I heard it too many times being performed by cheezy cover bands. they wrecked it for my listening. Now I wont listen to it . It bugs me  |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 22:01
Talk is a quite fine album for 90125 lovers. I like quite a lot of it. From Big Generator I enjoy the title track and Rythm of Love which I remember. |
Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 13:26
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As I said in other post, I love the Rabin's albuns, but I think they are not YES.
It's a great band! I still call them CINEMA, and I like all the albuns too much... -------------
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Posted By: Borris
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 19:49
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There will never be a time when everything has been said about a good artist/group. There are always new personal takes and the music will keep interacting in new ways with new times and new listeners. Yes are an excellent group, Close to the edge was a culmination point. With that album something new had appeared, Yes was a strange hodge podge of things that came together and gelled perfectly. It was uplifting involved bizarre and beautiful. But I'm glad they didn't stop there, they didn't really repeat themselves. I personally prefer Tormato to Drama, Tormato was weird but I like weird. I love Circus of Heaven and Arriving UFO they are both wonderfully crazy and full of jon Anderson enthusiasm. The record isn't very well produced but I'm happy with it the way it is. Tales from Topographic Oceans has really grown on me, mainly from reading some glowing appreciations of it. There are amazing paarls to be found if you dive deep into that album. Drama I think is alright, but they were trying to recapture old glories and I think Anderson is just to central to what Yes is. I like 90125 OK, I don't listen to it and bliss out like I do with a lot of the others though. I haven't got Big Generator, i got Talk a short while ago and I haven't been able to work up any enthusiasm for it. Of the later albums I love Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe, it is a really fresh and vital album. Keystudio, The Ladder & Magnification are all albums I can put on and they fill me with light, These albums may not be breakthrough albums but they are very warm and human, they are also still very idiosyncratic and unique. I hope Jon recovers and gets back with the others to realise the new long suites he had been working on. I say a big Yes to Yes, |
Posted By: antivoid
Date Posted: March 30 2009 at 05:54
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Talk is a funny album, but i love it to bits. Every song has it's own thing, jons vocals (maybe not his actual lyrics, even though it's better than most recent stuff) are astonishing, and the 3 part epic at the end is one of my favourite prog experiences from any band. Talk was that little bit different and as much as i love classic Yes, Talk is right up there with em.Why is it that so few people actually like this album?
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 30 2009 at 12:57
I was very happy to give this album four stars in my recent review. It is criminally underrated and most definitely stands up well alongside other more established classics by the band. The Endless Dream tracks, as you say, is an epic and thoroughly enjoyable, whilst I Am Waiting is also a fantastic track. The fact is that the Rabin era Yes divides opinion probably more than any other 70s prog band on this site, and I do understand why. It really is very much up to personal taste and also being able to open up and give it a chance. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 10 2009 at 16:44
So right and yet so wrong. There is a small but vocal minority of people out there who are convinced that Tormato is a great prog album. Good luck in trying to convert them, as I haven't made any progress.
Rick, however, is not the problem. He's using a new keyboard that doesn't really support his style well on a couple of the tracks, but his contributions are about the only ones that drag this thing down.
Jon's voice is not at it's peak yet, but it's nearly there. The true tragedy of Yes is that Jon's vocal talents peaked during the Yes West years.
You are right about Steve being sloppy and Chris being weak, though. And the quality of song writing for this album is way down.
As for Drama it's a mixed bag. Machine Messiah is a great song that showcases the chops of the non-Buggle members. The two Buggle-penned tunes are very very good as well. Downes's White Car shows him off at the top of the game and is competent, even though it makes us all miss Rick, Patrick, or even Tony. The other two songs do nothing for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 10 2009 at 16:47
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 10 2009 at 16:56
Yes -- Sweetness
Yes -- Run Through the Light
Yes -- It Can Happen
Yes -- Holy Lamb
Yes -- Evensong
Yes -- Take the Water to the Mountain
Yes -- Where Will You Be
Yes -- Man in the Moon
Yes -- No Way We Can Lose
Yes -- Can You Imagine
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 11 2009 at 16:48
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 11 2009 at 17:10
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NO
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: April 11 2009 at 18:44
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One of the better memories I have in life is seeing and hearing YES live, twice, the first w/ them as the original members, then the other time when they got Wakeman and the guitarist from Pink Fairies .Does anyone remember Star Castle? What was that all about?
Is that YES or Memorex?
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 12 2009 at 11:49
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I've never been a huge fan nor do I see why they are so popular. I think they get carried away at times, and that they most certainly place techniciality over anything else. I listen to a lot of music that is technically inclined, but Yes seem to get more satisfaction out of switching into 9/8 then 5/4 then some crazy polyrhythm than they do out of putting feel into a song.
Don't take that the wrong way, I like them and occasionally listen to them, but after hearing about them so much I've grown spiteful. I just don't see why people think they're so good.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: April 12 2009 at 19:25
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YES, In my opinion, are the best band. EVER.
Jon Anderson is my favourite vocalist, and his song "Song Of Seven" From his album of the same name is my all time favourite song. Steve Howe is a 1 in 6 billion guitarist. Awesome sound, hardly any fret noise, great speed never over the top, great compositional skills and never any fret noise. Rick Wakeman is one of the best pianists who ever lived, and he hits ever note perfectly in a way that can be easily heard, no matter how fast he gets.... And believe me, he gets damn fast. Chris Squire gets the cleanest noise of any bassist I have ever heard. Yes its because he uses a pick, but he is still so damn clean and so fast you can't pass him up. I loved his solo album Fish Out Of Water, and I also love his voice. Alan White is a great drummer. Whilst not as technically good as Bill Bruford or Carl Palmer, he still writes and plays brilliantly and is exactly what YES needs in a drummer. Yes were the first prog band I ever heard, and I had the honor... Nay, The PRIVILEGE to see them live and it was the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Yes write absolutely brilliant songs and I seriously have never been able to find another band who are as technically, compositionally or lyrically, or Just ALIVE as YES. ------------- 
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 12 2009 at 19:53
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 12 2009 at 20:00
Not even being able to remember half of my suggestions kind of proves my point. -------------
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