"Yes" will be touring under a different name
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Topic: "Yes" will be touring under a different name
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Subject: "Yes" will be touring under a different name
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 18:13
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According to this article linked from the band's official site: http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2008-10-30-yes-fill-in-singer_N.htm - http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2008-10-30-yes-fill-in-singer_N.htm
If this is true, I consider it good news. Its great that they tour, but it is not really Yes.
What do you think?
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 18:32
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Good decision. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 18:32
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What a lucky guy! He does really sound like Anderson too. Still, I know that won't convince a lot of Hardcore fans. At least "In The Present" isn't calling itself Yes. I suppose we can be thankful for that |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 18:58
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Errm.... "No"? Sorry, someone had to do it....  ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 21:22
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Good idea, let's hope the Yes fans still come out in droves to support them. It's music world's dirty secret that the "franchise" means more to most fans than the actual act. Foreigner with just Mick Jones, Floyd without Waters, the Stones without Jones; but the most dedicated just care about the name, the team, if you will. Just like you cheer for the Montreal Canadiens even though the player line-up may change from game to game. And for those who think it a bit much, I'm sure there's Anthony Phillips, Tony Kaye, Phil Shulman, Greg Lake/Ian MacDonald fans who will claim that Genesis, Yes, Gentle Giant, and King Crimson were no longer Genesis, Yes, Gentle Giant or King Crimson once those members left. All other departures, substitutions, replacements just make for a modified version of a musical group. Sometimes to our liking, sometimes not. As an aside, check out how Bobby Ingram came to "own" the rights to the band name Molly Hatchet, despite only having joined in 1985 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Hatchet). For those with limited attention spans when it comes to southern rock bands, just skip to the 1990s paragraph. Then wonder if a prog band could keep a following after doing that. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 21:39
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IN THE PRESENT????
i don't know from a marketing standpoint
 DRAMA would have been better or even better like AWHB....Could have been simply HOWE WAKEMAN SQUIRE WHITE featuring D. Benoit!
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 04:26
I think that "In The Present" was originally the name of the tour, not the band. So, Roger Dean had already been hired to make the art work and the marketing people already knew the "In The Present" name. Therefore, I believe, they went for that.
The title you suggest could be (will be?) the subtitle, printed on poster and the like. But I guess that "Yes" will also be mentioned somewhere on those posters. Like when ABWH called their live album "An Evening Of Yes Music Plus".
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febus wrote:Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 04:27
I don't think so in the case of King Crimson at all. For most of their career it's been pretty damn clear that KC is Robert Fripp's project above all. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 05:36
The influence of Greg Lake and Ian McDonald on the debut album was pretty major I would say. This also explains why King Crimson never made an album anywhere near as good as the debut ever again. Look at the songwriting credits for the debut.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 10:20
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NOT Yes touring, In The Present? Wait a minute... "In The Present"??? And what about "For The Moment"? Or, even better, "Only For The Tour"? Is this a name for a band or is it the type of contract that David Benoit signed??? |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 12:54
Well, the real name shold be: Squire White Wakeman Howe - is not that obvious ??------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 14:27
| OLD News...... |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 16:59
No, there is no such thing. Either something is old and therefore not news, or it is news and therefore not old. Nothing can be both news and old at the same time.
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Posted By: proglil49
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 17:52
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Considering half of Yes is on the line-up, I'd go for a name like "Half-Yes" or "Maybe"
------------- I want to be an astronaut |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 17:55
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Maybel Greer's Toyshop? ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 18:16
Time to brush off Cinema again (hey, Anderson wasn't part of that, either. . .) Or is that old news?
 Or Fakemen with Wakeman?
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 20:53
I've found some of the different eras have excellent albums that match up to Court. But with so many irritated fans of other bands with shifting membership, it's strange that KC never got any flak for the revolving door, despite losing more than a few great musicians. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 03:23
Might that not be (to the extent that it is true) because they never had a stable line up for a longer time in the 60's and 70's. The fans never had time to get used to a line up. Also they lost these members so early on. I mean no one is complaining that Yes isn't Yes without Peter Banks, or that Genesis isn't Genesis without Ant Phillips. But after a longer time, with several successful albums fans get irritated when key members leave or get kicked out. Especially when the remaining members go on to make albums like 90125 and Abacab.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 05:12
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How many of these threads do we need ? Anyway, as I said on anoher thread that I can't be bothered to search for at least when Yes did Drama, which is my favourite album from the band, the wrote new material which gave that new incarnation some sort of new identity. Likewise with Crimson. ------------- |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 05:50
I disagree, since I find Red their finest hour.  ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 07:59
Cinema would really be the wrong name for this line up. But if Trevor Rabin and Tony Kaye would come back that would be the right name.
Look at this old topic for more opinions on this: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49393&KW=yes&PN=3 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49393&KW=yes&PN=3 (look at the bottom of this page)
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Posted By: Codis
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 08:51
I got my ticket to Asbury Park, NJ on Nov. 15! And I'll be wearing my 'Yes' shirt. -------------  Grammy Award Winning Jethro Tull!
1989 Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance 
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Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 09:51
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One of my friends who is Yes addict won't go to any show since he likes Jon Anderson's voice so much.I'm quite dubious:I really enjoy Yes but without Anderson.On the other side if I'm able to see them why not? ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 13:45
We're only in it for the money, that's by Frank Zappa but not too inappropriate in this case, I'm afraid.  That could be rather the name of the tour actually. Touring with some new tunes with Jon would be a different story. |
Posted By: JIF8882
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 22:40
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I think Drama is a damn, fine album. Sure, no John, but still good. Some parts were heavier than the typical Yes
------------- J Dawg |
Posted By: JIF8882
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 22:46
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Hello, are you mad? Larks' Tongue in Spic and Red are 2 fine KC albums made after Greg, Ian, and Mike left. Ever heard of John Wetton, Bill Bruford, David Cross, and Jamie Muir? They're some fine musicians who in played KC long after the original players had left
------------- J Dawg |
Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 03:13
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Just another "Yes" tour promoting no album... In fact, half Yes half Not.. Sooo.. "NotYes" should be the name
Grown tired of the band now.. Yes were finished in 2001, now its getting silly..
Might as well go and see a good tribute band (which "In The Present" virtually are with 3 ex Yes members guesting).
A good tribute band doing the UK circuit at the moment is SeYes... They are fantastic.. Check them out. Singer miles better than Benoit. ------------- The Cheerful Insanity of Prog Rock |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 06:17
I don't think I'm mad, I just have a different taste that's all. And quite a few people agree with me that In The Court Of The Crimson King is the best King Crimson album. I do like Red too, but Larks' Tounges In Aspic I don't like very much, only Book Of Saturday and Easy Money - the rest is not my cup of tea.
John Wetton and Bill Bruford are people I admire a lot, but I don't think they did their best work with King Crimson. BTW, Wetton's live DVD Amorata is really good, and contains some Crimson material together with some songs by UK and Asia - highly recommended! Also, Steve Hackett's live DVD The Tokyo Tapes on which Wetton sings and Ian McDonald plays flutes and keys and more, is extremely good. It also features some King Crimson songs from the early days. These DVD's kicks Deja Vroom's ass by a wide margin IMO.
Speaking of madness, how mad do you have to be to leave the best band in the history of the world at the very hight of their power to join King Crimson instead
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Posted By: dzx
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 10:34
Absolutely, For me Johns lyrics grate with me when they are at their most holy or sanctimonious, Enjoy a lot of Yes but Drama really has bite ------------- was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice! |
Posted By: dzx
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 10:35
How about adding Belew to that list! ------------- was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice! |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 10:59
Yeah, if you like Talking Heads
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Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 15:20
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I do love the smell of bullsh*t in the morning.. What the hell are folk going on about?
This is about "In The Present" not other bands.
------------- The Cheerful Insanity of Prog Rock |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 20:52
The current line-up (meaning sans Jon) also means the others can play songs Jon wouldn't, including some of the Jon era(s) heavier numbers. So this will be the chance to hear some of them live. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 20:54
I agree with your comment. I just meant that KC has been just about the only "revolving door" band that hasn't suffered the wrath of its' fans because of members leaving or being kicked out. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 19:13
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[/QUOTE] I agree with your comment. I just meant that KC has been just about the only "revolving door" band that hasn't suffered the wrath of its' fans because of members leaving or being kicked out. [/QUOTE] From what I gather, nobody's dissing Carlos Santana much, either.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 09:00
I could not agree with dubbing Oliver Wakeman as Fakemen - he is a talented musician, who inherited much from his father, not just looks or keyboard style, but also had his own achievements, this is reinforcement for Yes ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: peskypesky
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 14:02
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I might go see this incarnation, even without Jon. David's voice is eerily similar and I think he'll do a fine job. As for the name? "Roundabout"? Cause I'll bet you they play it. :) ------------- Prog fan since 1974. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 13:03
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Wow this guy sings exactly like Anderson. Great decision! Yes without Anderson is NOT Yes. I hope they come to Argentina... though I doubt it
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 16:23
Um, Oliver wasn't meant to be in the Fakemen part. . .
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Posted By: Codis
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 09:12
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A review from the opening night show: http://www.thespec.com/Entertainment/article/461397 - http://www.thespec.com/Entertainment/article/461397 ------------- Grammy Award Winning Jethro Tull!
1989 Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance
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