"Not As Good As The Book"
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Topic: "Not As Good As The Book"
Posted By: The Prognaut
Subject: "Not As Good As The Book"
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 12:56
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Well my fellow progmates, it was quite a pleasant listening to me for a long, long time and still I'm very amazed to what I listened to in "Not As Good As The Book". I consider this to be a forecoming genetarional breakthrough piece of work. This is pure Prog Rock in all levels. The transitions, the evolving passages, the metric and the virtuous display on instruments join to achieve togetherness. And what to say about Andy Tillison's work on the novel within... wonderful!
So, I humbly ask for your opinion, for your reactions and your feelings towards this album.
Cheers!
CZ ------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
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Posted By: mellors
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 13:00
| Id call it a masterpiece but I dont like to go to such absolutes as best of 2008/10 years/ever etc, though I do think it is the best of the Tangent so far. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 13:00
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An amazing album! Didn't catch me right off the bat, but with repeated listens it's easy to say that this is THE album of 2008 in my opinion. Absolutely stunning from start to finish, easily The Tangent's best output - maybe it's because the subject matter was so personal to Tillison. Enough for my ranting; time for a shameless self promotion: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=175543 - My review |
Posted By: elpprogster
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 13:13
| For me, both Tillison/Manning epics made for the La Voce Del Vento project, are much better than any THe Tangent album, includng the latest one, which for me is not as good as the bands 2 previous offerings! |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 13:30
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I need to hear it first. I like "A place in the queue" though. I have much to learn it appears. |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:20
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I would say it's a near-masterpiece. One of the best releases of 2008, one of the band's best (second only to A Place in the Queue for me) and just all around a great record. For the purposes of this poll, I'll say "A True Masterpiece." ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:38
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There must have been a choice between "True Masterpiece" and "Good, but nothing special". Because, I do think it has special stuff, but it isn't a masterpiece, excellent album an improvement over A Place in the Queue IMO.
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:47
| I dont know I was impresed the first time I heard it. it's not a bad album but the singer's voice is awful.If we compare it with other 2008 releases Magenta's Metamorphosis is much better. |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 16:49
Totally agree Cacho. It is indeed a huge improvement over APITQ. NAGATB has become my fave out of the entire dicography by The Tangent
Sure, I'm thinking that something like the "Excellent Addition" rate over the reviews on the PA could've gone in between those two options you mention, and that kind of opinions and points of view from you guys is what I expected in return from this poll.
Tnx!
Rgds ------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
cacho wrote:Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:40
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Yep. Love this album. One very solid release. Totally got me into the Tangent.
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Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:46
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Music for lifts.Certainly not uplifting music!Great musicians without soul and ideas!
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:50
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Wish you would have had an option for being good and pretty special but not a true masterpiece. That would have been my vote. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:38
My review states that it is a killer, so then it is . Far from an eternal masterpiece but frankly, as soon as Jonas Reingold shows up, I start drooling.. A very, very good 5 star job .  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:39
Your review was the one that made me want the album in the first place, and you did not mislead me 
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:45
God forbid, I ever lead you astray ! I figured if you dig Geddy's bass , how can you not go gaga over Jonas. I listen to all Tangent albums with the bass as the conductor, I it is mindblowing . Forget Tillison's soso voice, its not that bad !  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:56
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If the vocals are listenable, unlike "A place in the Queue" then it MUST be a step in the right direction ------------- |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 23:03
I'll admit again that I love Tillison's voice. Don't know what everyone hates about it  . Although DIY Surgery was... er... odd - was Tillison even singing on that one?Anywhat, yes! Mr. Reingold is a fantastic bass-man, I can really appreciate him in all his works |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 09:46
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^^His voice is just uninspiring, so the music saves it for me. He doesn't have the worst voice, but just very nasally and flat. When he gets on those really dramatic moments he'll end each phrase with a growl. Maybe don't take the mic away from him completely, but give Jakko some more mic time. E ------------- 
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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 13:57
| I liked A Place In The Queu better... but it's still a very good album. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 15:49
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Good, but nothing special. I like A Place in the Queue and The Music that Died Alone better.
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 17:29
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I have to agree with E-Dub and Crimson, Andy Tillison shouldn't be singing. I loved the beginning of the album right up until he started singing. I can't understand how musicians of that quality can ignore the fact that he sang the first song off key. Unfortunately, the repeated vocal gaffes make the album unlistenable for me. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 22:19
Sure, Tillison should keep improving on his singing technique but I do recognize he's moved on from past works where he sounded off even more out of tune. Still, IMHO I believe instrumentation on NAGATB surpasses all this little lacks of attention and detailing.
Cheers ------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 05:22
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I only have A Place In The Queue by these guys. I really like that album, and have been wondering which would be the best to get next. Sounds like NAGATB would be a good choice.
My favourites from APITQ are the 2 epics (surprise surprise) so which of theirs would you folks recommend I get, the latest or the earlier ones with Roine.
Sorry about the sidetracking here, but comments would be welcome!!!
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 06:19
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^Personally, I'd go for their first, The Music that Died Alone, before any others as its still their best IMO, In Darkest Dreams is an excellent epic. After that I'd go for the new one then The Wourld that we Drive Through last as it seems to suffer from "Flower Kings Syndrome"; too much music, not enough materiel. The live album, Going Off on One is also great. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 13:02
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Contrary to what Sleeper says, I'd go ahead with Not as Good as the Book. I find it much better in terms of composition, sound, layout, and just about everything. Plus, aside from In Earnest, the song Four Egos, One War is probably their best 20+ minute track ever.
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Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 13:23
I totally second that LE. If someone wanna get in "The Tanget" ASAP, for me too there's no point in wasting precious minutes of listening on previous releases if you feel like startin' up in the right side. And NAGATB is the one to go with!!!
Cheers ------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: Urs Blank
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 10:19
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Not as Good as the Book is close to a masterpiece. It could be one if only Tillison could sing on key! In fact they should either make an all instrumental album or find a correct voice to sing Tillison's lyrics to get the recognition they deserve. ------------- Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. Salvador Dali. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 21:10
Same goes for The Full Gamut, IMO, but the first disc feels a bit tired to me. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 29 2008 at 14:42
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Best album of 2008 so far, in my book... which is not as good as their book... ------------- 
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