PA's Battle to Stardom B3: Can v. Opeth
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Topic: PA's Battle to Stardom B3: Can v. Opeth
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Subject: PA's Battle to Stardom B3: Can v. Opeth
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 09:28
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One of the masters of Krautrock against the unique, modern progressive death metal group Opeth! This is similar to the last poll as you get vastly different sounds here. Which one will prevail? Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on their respective pages (or Youtube if the particular band has no online streaming). Can's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=667 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=667 Opeth's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1122 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1122 As always, discussions are encouraged. Recap: Round 2 B1: B2: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. B1: forum_posts.asp?TID=52648&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52648&PN=1 B2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52714 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52714 Round 1 A1: A2: A3: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. A4: A5: Can v. A6: A7: Van der Graaf Generator v. A8: Samla Mammas Manna v. A9: Rush v. A10: A11: Henry Cow v. A12: A13: A14: A15: A16: Gentle Giant v. A1: forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 A2: forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 A3: forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 A4: forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 A5: forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 A6: forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 A7: forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 A8: forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1 A9: forum_posts.asp?TID=52011 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52011 A10: forum_posts.asp?TID=52091 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52091 A11: forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1 A12: forum_posts.asp?TID=52246 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52246 A13: forum_posts.asp?TID=52336 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52336 A14: forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1 A15: forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1 A16: forum_posts.asp?TID=52571 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52571 ------------- 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 09:56
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Opeth, no question for me.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 10:03
| There CAN only be 1 answer. |
Posted By: JoaoPirucas
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 10:10
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Opeth > all
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 10:15
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Neither band is going to make my top 500 bands list but I like Damnation, and Watershed was mostly cookie-monster free so that one if pretty good too. ------------- 
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 10:19
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Opeth are excellent , but CAN i cast my vote this Way !!!! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:01
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CAN, CAN, CAN -------------  |
Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:06
My God, the Cookiemonster remark really made my day!  Neither of the bands has got a special place in my heart but I sure do like Vitamin C, so Can gets my vote on this round.------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: MrEdifus
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:16
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Opeth for me. I see them in two days!
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:20
| 7-9 so far!!! i guess the CAN fans are still sleeping as they had more than 40 votes in the first round...One more vote for CAN. |
Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:21
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I'm awake. CAN ------------- "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - HST |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:39
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sleeper wrote:Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:59
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Opeth deserve this one. If they don't win then i'll want to reap carnage onto PA...
------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 12:04
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Can! ...death zeuhl...?
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 12:09
Yeah, Alex, what the heck?  |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 12:15
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This one's tricky.. favourite prog metal band or favourite krautrock band... AHH.
I'll give the edge to CAN for influence and innovation. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 12:54
Can Can win?  Not to kick the Opeth, but voting Can because I can. Opeth is very good at what they do, but I much prefer Can. I'm not keen on growling, to say the least. Vocals aside, I also find Can musically more interesting. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:05
Oops. I must have been thinking of my ultimate dream band while writing that. -------------
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Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:59
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Comparing Can and Opeth is not even apples and football anymore. Though it's strange, this is not very hard for me: Opeth, it's clear. I got to know Can and listened to some of their music, but only Monster Movie fits my taste a bit, while the others' music does nothing for me. Opeth has overall quality to my ears, and one of my favourite all-time albums (Blackwater Park). Though I voted for Opeth, I think Can might be the more "important" band of those, maybe deserve it more (as Area did but Marillion), yet I am asked for my taste, so.. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 14:07
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I'm stumped. Hmm, let's try comparing the bands' worst- which of the two tracks is more overrated, "Halleluwah" or "The Moor"? I'm still stumped. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 14:48
------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 14:49
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I went with Can. I am only discovering Opeth as of late. Tago Mago is one of my fav albums as well. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 15:06
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Finally I've gone with Opeth. The reason? Opeth is hard to better at what they do. Great flow, tons of melody, really impressive playing all round with a keen sense for balance, each song having a distinctive character. And they're well capable of tearing it up. Can are loads of fun as well, they're your mindscrew party music. Again, impressive playing, each song has a distinctive character etc. etc. Fun to dance around to and sing along with Mooney or Suzuki. Only the mindscrew part is relatively lightweight. Even the likes of' 'Aumgn' or 'Peking O', impressive as they are, are more funny than anything else. Can are a good soundtrack for the silly, whimsical moments; to get your brain fried look elsewhere. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 15:24
Man, Jaki Liebezeit looks HOT. |
Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:36
Or you could make an anti-symphonic thread. ------------- 
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:37
But Can isn't symphonic. -------------
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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:39
Ok, an anti-symphonic/Krautrock thread. Happy now, Mr. Death Zeuhl?  -------------
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:40
That should be my new nickname. -------------
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Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:55
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Chalk and cheese! Neither would be in my top 10 bands, but going on album count, I have 2 by Can (Ege Bamyasi and Tago Mago), but several more by Opeth (Blackwater Park, Damnation, Deliverance, Ghost Reveries, Morningrise, Still Life & Watershed) so I guess I'm plumping for Opeth! Just saw that Tangerine Dream got done by ELP - oh woe is me (and that's after Camel getting kicked out too)! -------------  Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:56
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that's another toughie... 2 in a row... I really dig both groups... going with Can as several have for innovation and originality.. since they cancel out in in preference.. just depends upon the mood. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Bobby Corwen
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 17:01
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Opeth by a country mile
------------- what is mind...doesn't matter...what is matter....nevermind...HAHAH!! |
Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 20:42
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My vote goes to Can. Tago Mago and Egy Bamyasi are krautrock masterpieces.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 20:58
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I like both, but CAN is more orginal, influencial and experimental. So they get my vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 23:20
I'll take the girl in the red  ------------- 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 23:20
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Opeth. Like both bands, but love Opeth. -------------
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 02:13
| I enjoy Can, but do not enjoy Opeth. Therefore, I vote for Can. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 02:18
| I know Opeth better than Can, and I enjoy them more. However, as my better half pointed out, Can were way more innovative and (*cough cough*) progressive, even if not always easy to swallow. Hopefully Opeth will continue to progress as well, and not become stuck in a rut as many other promising bands have. |
Posted By: Urs Blank
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 03:21
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both bands are excellent, but I vote for Opeth with no hestitation. They have already made 8 albums or so, showing a great evolution in their music, and they are not going to stop! ------------- Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. Salvador Dali. |
Posted By: splyu
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 03:26
| While Can are probably the "better" band, I'd still rather listen to Opeth. Neither is a particular favourite of mine though. |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 03:28
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hard choice. ive liked opeth for a long time and i really really like blackwater park. Ghost Reveries is pretty good as well. Can however, is a more recent addition to my library. Tago Mago is awesome and LOVE Ege Bamyesi. Future Days hasnt gotten as many listens but so far it sounds great. the sounds are so different in almost every way and this makes it hard to chose but im gonna go with CAN. a more influential band, a more important, daring, i think just all around better band. but man, very hard decision. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 05:38
| Opef, no quefton (juft been to the dentift) |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 12:06
And i took the girl of the green dress  ------------- |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:13
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CAN! And we've got a draw.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 15:22
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Can somebody PLEASE break this tie? But only if you vote for Opeth, of course.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 20:15
Nope, someone voted for Can, and I admire that Can do attitude. The tie is broken; does this mean that Opeth has been kicked in the can?
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[50.85%]Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 02:19
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I'm proud of you, ProgArchives!
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Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 02:42
| Anyway, if Can win, I doubt they will make it one more time.. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 10:35
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Still a tie! I'll post the next one as soon as I notice that there's a change. -------------
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 10:41
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Can! ;P ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 11:05
4 more votes for Opeth within 5 minutes just now??? 
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 11:07
 Holy hell. -------------
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 11:12
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shenanigans ;P ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 11:31
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Can ,,,,, Against Opeth , what's the Hell , i like both of them , don't much care who wins a Poll !!!!!!!!!! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 12:03
I second shenanigans |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 12:17
recount!!!!!!!!! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:05
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BS, Can won.
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:58
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I'm not recalling it. I keep polls as close to 72 hours as possible (I can't spend every hour on here), and that is the cutoff time. There has to be a definable limit, so that is what it is. This poll should receive no further replies. -------------
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:10
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Can won!
------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:24
CAN i vote twice in this poll Please ????  ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: splyu
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 19:41
Heh, yes, they won by 35:35 votes... |
Posted By: RoidRageOnStage
Date Posted: October 29 2008 at 04:35
| I voted for Can, easy pick! |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 29 2008 at 17:50
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Can, all the way. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 29 2008 at 17:52
Agreed, too bad the responses, and votes?, are unfashionably late. |