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Topic: Canterbury recommendation needed
Posted By: Agemo
Subject: Canterbury recommendation needed
Date Posted: September 19 2008 at 14:40
I love Canterbury music. But my collection mainly consists of bands/artists that started in the sixties/seventies. The only music from a new artist is from Panzerpappa (and they are even considered RIO). So can anyone recommend me some Canterbury music by new artists?

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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 05:42
Can't help you there. I think all new bands with something similar to a Canterbury sound would be placed in either jazz-rock/fusion or R.I.O/Avant. Maybe Ensemble Nimbus and Akineton Retard could work for you.

Do you know all the 70's Canterbury bands not from Canterbury? You must know Supersister, but how about Picchio dal Pozzo, Cos, Moving Gelatine Plates and Travelling? They all make warm, complex jazzrock with a sense of humour. On par with the best from UK, imo.

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 06:39
Caveman Hughscore, Hughscore, Soft Machine Legacy, Hugh Hopper's: Jazzloops, Brian Hopper's If Ever I Am,  Jakko Jakczyk's Bruised Romantic Glee Club (both backward and forward looking Canterbury moments), The Happy Accidents - also check out Moonjune Records website,the owner is a Canterbury freak and promoter. I'll let the experts recommend recent Robert Wyatt recordings.  

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Posted By: Agemo
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 14:52
It's seems Canterbury needs some fresh blood. I do know (and like) Akineton Retard, not entirely Canterbury, but very good. And of course I know Supersister  , everyone should !!!
 
And the suggestions from Dick Heath also point in the direction, that it's the old guys who still make Canterbury and there are (almost) no new bands that make this music anymore. Fortunately the new Robert Wyatt is excellent, but still I would like to hear something from  new bands. Is Cantebury soon to be extinct??


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Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 00:00
A nice recommendation by Dick is JAKKO JAKSZYK's ' Bruised Romantic Glee Club ' . This release really should have attracted more interest as it is very, very good. The guest musicians featured on this double CD release read like a 'who's who' of Canterbury/Prog .

Jakko's original songs have a distinct Canterbury flavour and complexity and there are some 11 there to digest. His treatment and arrangement of some Canterbury classics on the second disc has reawakened my interest in this area . [ Just love ' Nine Funerals of the Citizen King' and his version of ' Islands' by way of example.]

A most definite supporting vote from me on Dick's recommendation of this one. Hope it helps.

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Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 20:35
Hey, Agemo, have you had an opportunity to follow up on the JAKKO JAKSZYK recommendation yet. You might find his website helpful - www.jakko.com

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 20:43
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:



Do you know all the 70's Canterbury bands not from Canterbury? You must know Supersister, but how about Picchio dal Pozzo, Cos, Moving Gelatine Plates and Travelling? They all make warm, complex jazzrock with a sense of humour. On par with the best from UK, imo.


The Muffins?  Bit more RIO than Canterbury perhaps, but anyways.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 20:44
Also misclassified as Zeuhl and sounds Canterbury to my ears, try Kultivator Barndomens Stigar.  None of this is particularly new, but as Dick pointed out a lot of the new material is being propagated by familiar faces.


Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 09:43
Kultivator is a fine choice Natural Science.DFA from Italy would fit too.

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 09:54
Having been so lucky as to find the album at a very good price, I fully endorse Dick Heath's recommendation of Jakko Jakszyk's The Bruised Romantic Glee Club. It is a double CD, whose first disc contains original compositions by the artist himself (who is now a member of The Tangent), while the second features excellent covers of some Canterbury classics (as well as of KC's "Pictures of a City"). Unfortunately, Jakko hasn't still been added to the site, but in the past I volunteered to do the addition, and might do so in the next few days, if the JRF team give me the green light.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 12:26
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Having been so lucky as to find the album at a very good price, I fully endorse Dick Heath's recommendation of Jakko Jakszyk's The Bruised Romantic Glee Club. It is a double CD, whose first disc contains original compositions by the artist himself (who is now a member of The Tangent), while the second features excellent covers of some Canterbury classics (as well as of KC's "Pictures of a City"). Unfortunately, Jakko hasn't still been added to the site, but in the past I volunteered to do the addition, and might do so in the next few days, if the JRF team give me the green light.


As an FYI, this album is also available through emusic.


Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 19:42
The inclusion of JAKKO JAKSZYK to PA should be roundly supported . Please do your darndest Raff . It is certainly about time.

'The Bruised Romantic Glee Club' is a gem of both modern and somewhat nostalgic prog in the Canterbury mould by a refreshingly honest, deep thinking and wonderfully talented writer, player and singer. His CV is very impressive and his earlier collaborative and solo works make his inclusion here essential imo.

At the time of the release of this album, Dick was doing his best to get the album and Jakko much deserved exposure including in an interview with JAKKO. I and others were doing our little bit via these forums to push the barrow as well.

It's remarkable that this fine album has not been more widely recognised and that it is still suffering from lack of exposure despite a higher profile achieved through Jakko's more recent involvement as guitarist with THE TANGENT on the highly rating ' Not as Good as the Book'. Clearly his musical cohort recognise his talents!

I particularly like his work with 21st CENTURY SCHIZOID BAND alongside the likes of Mel Collins, Ian MacDonald , Michael and Peter Giles and later the late and great Ian Wallace, where he handles the guitar playing and vocals, in particular, on many of the earlier KC standards with aplomb . [ Significant shoes to fill by one musician alone amongst these players of almost legendary status ] !

The album DIZRHYTHMIA where he features with Gavin Harrison and Danny Thompson with clear Indian influences from Pandit Dinesh and other contributors also sounds interesting - one for the future for me as I do not have it yet.

[ His Discography is easily accessible through Burning Shed for those interested].

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 19:43
y'know fans of Dave Stewart should check out anything by Andy Tillison




Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 00:57
I should also mention that I've just placed an order for PHIL MILLER'S IN CAHOOTS, the album from 2006 'Conspiracy Theories'. I was tempted after hearing nice samples and some good reviews here on PA. [ who can forget his work with HATFIELD AND THE NORTH and NATIONAL HEALTH ] .

There's Phil on guitars, another great evergreen Peter Lemer on keys , Fred Baker on basses [ now for bass enthusiasts, he sounds very handy] and Mark Fletcher on drums who is also critically acclaimed or so it seems . Then there's a horn section featuring the one and only 'Bloomdido' Didier Malherbe as well as Annie Whitehead and ors. with contributions on some tunes from the said Dave Stewart, Barbara Gaskin, Doug Boyle and Richard Sinclair.

Ckeck out the Phil Miller entries under the alphabetical index here on PA and you will get an idea of just how active and influential he has been in Canterbury over the years . Despite the many sad losses among it's distinguished members in more recent years [ the likes of Steve Miller - his brother and ex Caravan member , Elton Dean and Pip Pyle by way of example ] , with luck and a fair wind, cheers to all still involved and long may it continue.

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Looking still the same after all these years...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 01:08
 ^ Conspiracy Theories is very good,  All That even better  Thumbs Up




Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 01:24
I have Conspiracy Theories too and it is indeed an excellent recommendation.

If you want something very Canterbury but by a Japanese band, try Ain Soph.

They're very much influenced by Hatfield and the North.  However, they're not especially innovative but just fun to listen to.


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