Vice President choices.
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Topic: Vice President choices.
Posted By: crimhead
Subject: Vice President choices.
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 13:17
| With the news today that McCain has finally made his decision I thought that it was timely. |
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 13:24
All I can say about McCain's pick is I hope history repeats itself. 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 14:53
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I voted for a shruberry provided we can locate a qualified shrubber.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 15:23
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No offense but I think that with Bush, we have had enough shrubbery in office to last a lifetime and we really don't need any more shrubs running this country. ------------- 
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 15:37
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As a Brit without a vote in this, I thought the Democrats had really stolen a march with their final 2 candidates for the nomination. It seems to me though that McCain has played something of a trump card with his choice for VP. This could be the most entertaining election the US has had since West Wing finished.
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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 15:39
Bah! There's already too many shrubs in the American government as is. Personally, I think McCain's choice, regardless of one's political affiliations, was an absolutely brilliant choice. It has great potential to draw more female voters toward the Republicans and highlights the riff that, I believe, still exists between Obama and Clinton.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 17:22
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its the Vice President... McCain and Obama look like pretty assertive figures... Unlike Bush. So shouldn't really matter as much. |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 18:04
Yes and no.......McCain is kind of old and if something bad happens to him, we have this governess from Alaska for 2 years as president. of USA..........so much for Obama..inexperience, supposedly!!!
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King of Loss wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 18:20
yep... sharp minds.. intellects far greater than our own.. actually think age.. not race is going to be the decider that people won't 'admit' to. And as usual.. those intellects don't reside on the right.... that was an odd selection.. not a good two days for McCain. Getting violated up the ass verbally last night by Obama (priceless.. so much for a general feel good speech.. loved it) then this odd selection today.in case you all were wondering... I had to tell him I was busy and couldn't do it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 20:11
hahhahah.. nope... two points you ignore... 1) put a black man on the ticket on the GOP... he doesn't win... excuse me for being a bit firm with you. But that assumes that all that woman.. and extending the 'logic' of your post... blacks care about are shallow things as sex, or race. People vote on candidates, issues, and how they effect them. Figured you would have picked up on that somewhere along the line. 2.) riff.... look at the 'riff' in 2000.. how many McCain supporters who saw their candidate destroyed in the ruthless pursuit and grab for power that was ..and is the heart everything W touches. How many of them.. who had much more reason to hate Bush than woman do of Obama... voted for the devil incarnate.. the Democrats. not sure which world you are living in brother... but don't underestimate just how hated the current leadership is.. and by extension.. the Republican party is... by the Democratic Party. These 8 years have seen the disregard of the Constitiution.. a needless war... a flaccid economy. There is no split... you fall prey to oldest trick in book... bitch and compain and make noise to draw attention. The number of Democratic women... who will vote for McCain will be very small.. who relates as well to a middle class working mother as I relate to Vladimer Putin. dude.. you need to wake up and see what the state of this country is.... the GOP is not the only party that thinks the other side are the devil incarnate. And we have the numbers.. always have.. just plagued by apathy.. always our weakness. That.. is not an issue this year... I assume you saw the turnout for the primaries this year. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: YesFan72
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 20:19
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSBgH_wf5bc A short biography about McCain's choice. ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 20:28
hahahhahahhahha.. great find man! You get the treasured clappies.... what town was that she was councilman of... yes... McCain has the foreign policy experience...as long as he is alive hahahhahhahhahha.. god I love politics... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 20:59
| I think Palin is a better choice, though neither candidate chose the best running mate they could have. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:08
I would love to know why you think so.... as was mentioned earlier.. sort of makes his inexperience argument shallower than it could be.. and that is one of the only selling points ..if not the only he has over Obama. Not that it means anything... look at 2000 again. the talk shows here were having some kind of fun with it.... this is a candidate Pat.. who has one... one state budget she overseen... and unless Alaska has treaties with foreign countries. .she has no experience with that. perception ... is reality.... it looks like a stupid move.. thus it will/could be seen as such. It strikes me as a terrible decision.. don't you think people are going to realize.. and they will in debates when these two are face to face... just how much of a reality that there is a chance that the ex-city councilwoman from sh*thole Alaska could be the next President. In a VERY dangerous world today.. oh no Pat... love you brother.. .but someone really has to explain just how this was a good move. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:12
mick - I don't want to get into it too much, passions are running very high around here  I still think McCain needed some energy in the conservative base and the conservatives love her. But anyway if you think it's a stupid move, I guess you can breathe easy - if the hatred of the Administration and the Republican party is as deep as you believe, then there should be no problem come November. Right? |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:13
Obama's experience in the Illinois Senate fares not much better.
As for the foreign policy, if elected, she will have to learn it while being #2; he will have to take a crash course the way Clinton did. Remember that great foreign policy maker?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:17
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Both made interesting choices, that's all I have to say, other than may we live in interesting times.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:20
hahahha one of the joys of being a Democrat.. is enduring elections where you had the better candidate.. of course the better positions... everything lined up.. and yet still lose jt shouldn't be a problem... .BUT if Obama pulls a Kerry out of his hat and forgets he has balls and has to respond to attacks rather than be a bigger man... then the Dem's will find a way to lose this as well. Which is why his speech was so important last night... he did cast the gauntlet down... but it is a LONG way to November.. you know that as I do... and shoring up his weakened base might have been necessary.. but at the cost of having the middle wonder just what the world is he thinking... anyway... it is why we love politics.. there are NO sure things... but I do love the start. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:23
mick - I don't want to get into it too much, passions are running very high around here I still think McCain needed some energy in the conservative base and the conservatives love her. you say "it looks like a stupid move" - guess what? All the GOP thinks Biden was a stupid move, all the Democrats think Palin was a stupid move. Surprise. There's a difference between inexperience of the VP candidate and that of a Presidential candidate. You call her an "ex-city councilwoman from sh*thole Alaska", even though she is the governor of that state - I guess people on the other side can call Obama a mediocre Illinois state senator who only ascended to the U.S. Senate in what can only be described as an utter farce of an election. Neither has had a hell of a lot of time on the national scene - but again, it's Obama that's running for the head job. Anyways, our new I know you're a dyed-in-the-wool Dem, and I'm...well let's just say I'm not. I'll let you have the last word because we don't need to get into a big exchange about it. However, on one main point we do agree - the Republicans have been utterly corrupted over the past 8 years and longer, to be honest I think a spell on the sideline would be good for them.Lots of disagreement but ever with respect my friend.  |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:23
I don't why I sort of double posted - sorry 
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:25
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:27
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:29
I try my best... yes... but he understands that is preferable to talk first then fight.... something the Republicans forgot on the way to the OK Corral Bring em' On? Yeah... whose blood was spilled when they did. I'll take his 'inexperience' over what passes for experience any day. Clinton's foreign policy ... was his most underappreciated aspect to his presidency. He was quite shrewd at it.. he was a quick learner ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:51
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:58
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The vice presidential candidates match their presidential candidates counterparts in quality. Neither for me. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 22:07
god I love quote pyramids.. and in my mentors honor... a response
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 22:44
P.S. Do you realize that Clinton did more for the big money than Reagan and Bush together? speaking of the new centrist Democratic Party
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 22:50
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 23:15
Meh...for me, both suck so....pfft. I dunno.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 07:33
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 11:19
| A simplistic viewpoint is things will never change until the people get the smarts and the balls to vote in a third party into the Presidential office. Once we show them that we can put someone into the office that is not from a mainstream party they might take notice and fear that change many follow in the House and Senate as well. This is only a pipe dream but we created this fiasco. We allow it to continue because it is more harder to change things. We like to sleep at night thinking that these politicians actually care about the average man. They care little about anyone that cannot allow them to keep their power. They like to throw out things like town hall meetings but when was the last time either party held a $10 a plate fund raising dinner so that the average American can rub elbows with them? Even on the state level you are lucky to see a fund raising dinner for a Congressman or Senator that's under $250 a plate. Politics is not for the common man nor do the parties care about the majority of those that they serve. They care only about the top 5% of the food chain. Everyone will say that it is the top 5% that pay the majority of taxes, while this is true it is not the top 5% of the people are not doing the jobs that keep this country running. It is the bottom 95% that is. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 22:30
I hate to break up this serious discussion (ok, that's a lie), but
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 02:02
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 02:03
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I actually voted neither, lol.
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 02:18
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Both candidates suck for me. Even the libertarian candidate, Bob Barr, sucks, and I'm pretty libertarian myself. I'm not going to be quite old enough to vote in this election, and even if I was old enough I probably wouldn't vote.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 04:00
RON PAUL REVOLUTION?
As someone who is voting for McCain, he made a terrible choice. Obama made a fairly good one. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 07:10
When I first saw that McCain picked Palin for his VP candidate, I thought, sweet...Michael Palin for VP, I'm gonna change my vote to McCain now. How disappointed I was when I found out it was some chick from Alaska. 
I mean Alaska's not even a real state. How much experience can you get being the governor of a state with a population of 14 and an annual budget of $75? ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 07:51
yep.. like I say... never a good thing when your VP candidate is the punchline of jokes right off the bat. This after having your judgment questioned... HAMMERED in a speech the night before which was seen by 40 million people. If he wanted to shore up the 'right' ... he had plenty of experienced people to have done that. He had met her once.... like 6 months ago... and just offered her the job. wow... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 08:36
It's got huge tracks of land. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:28
Paul aught to have run Libertarian. He's a thousand times better than that spineless Barr. Barr doesn't actually take a strong stand on any of the issues that define the Libertarian party. He has no platform. It makes me insanely angry. ANGRY. ------------- |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:31
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http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/the-shock-of-pa.html - http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/the-shock-of-pa.html |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:35
Even though he hates the pick, he admits being in the minority opinion among conservatives. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080831/pl_politico/13016 - http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080831/pl_politico/13016 |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:37
We all saw how well the RON PAUL REVOLUTION went . The media never gave him any credibility. True some of his ideas are out there but sometimes you gotta think outside of the box to bring change. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:38
hahahhahah.. oh man *spit Diet Coke on monitor from laughing so hard' 'He was the president of the Harvard Law Review; she was the point guard on her high school basketball team. ' right on ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:53
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again... said it yesterday.. stand by it still Think about how the key factor in this decision was not who could defend this country were something dreadful happen to McCain in office but how to tread as much on Obama's convention bounce and use women's equality as a wedge issue among Democrats because it might secure a few points here or there. Oh, and everyone would be surprised. And even Rove would be annoyed. This is his sense of honor and judgment. This is his sense of responsibility and service. Here's the real slogan the McCain campaign should now adopt:
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:53
And that's what is so scary. I would expect more conservatives to be wary. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 13:57
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just had a funny thought. setting the VCR for the VP debate... suspect they are already coaching her on issues.. *Ms. Palin... can you find Georgia on a map ehhhh trick question* ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 14:30
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 16:06
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Hmm I have a different take on all this. All of this conventions, VP choices are just smoke and mirrors. Lets look at an entirely objective view (well as objective that can be expected). I copied my post form another board. I leave you with a question if both of their finite proposals can be so torn down where does that leave the ones that are not finite? I think we are in for far more trouble whomever is elected:
I rarely laud columnists of any kind because they seem to be just mouthpieces for either side of the coin but this guy, Robert J Samuelson takes a real world approach and cites errors in both candidates logic in their promises. The last paragraph is the most poignant especially for those buying into the rhetoric of either Obama or McCain. Here is the link to the entire article the quoted paragraphs are taken from: http://tinyurl.com/6kpxte - http://tinyurl.com/6kpxte "The most exhaustive examination of the McCain and Obama budget proposals I've found comes from the Tax Policy Center, sponsored jointly by the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution. It's discouraging reading. Though details differ, neither plan would realistically limit spending or eliminate deficits. For example, both their health proposals would cost far more than $1 trillion over a decade, says the Tax Policy Center. Obama and McCain have each embraced symbolic gestures that falsely suggest they've made tough choices. Democrats blame deficits on Bush's tax cuts for the rich and the Iraq War. OK, let's whack the rich. Obama would restore the 36 percent and 39.6 percent income-tax rates for couples with taxable incomes above $200,300 and $357,700. He's suggested higher capital-gains taxes and Social Security taxes for those with incomes exceeding $250,000. Together, these changes might generate about $80 billion of revenue in 2010, says the Tax Policy Center. By contrast, the 2008 budget deficit is reckoned at $389 billion. Even saving $125 billion by winding down the Iraq War -- a highly optimistic estimate -- wouldn't erase the deficit. McCain denounces wasteful spending, citing congressional "earmarks." These are projects usually designated by individual members of Congress for their districts. OK, let's scrub them all. In 2008, earmarks numbered 11,610 and cost $17.2 billion, estimates Citizens Against Government Waste. That's less than 1 percent of federal spending. Elections serve, in civics textbooks, to reach collective decisions about the future. The real world is different. Many campaign proposals are so unrealistic or undesirable that they may never be enacted. McCain would cut taxes again for the rich. Is that needed or likely? No. Obama would create more special tax breaks for homeowners, college students, workers and retirees, among others -- further clutter in an already complex tax system. All this makes sense only as fantasy politics. Proposals aren't necessarily intended to be adopted. They're selected to win applause and please voters -- just as quarterbacks, in fantasy football, are selected for their accuracy. In November, one candidate will win this game. But the country as a whole may lose." ------------- 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 17:25
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I select fantasy quarterbacks based on the potential of the offense as a whole, rather than the accuracy of the individual quarterback, because I feel that a good offense is going to give even a mediocre quarterback plenty of scoring opportunities and that a good running game makes long-yardage passing significantly easier. But seriously, that's a good article. And it's pretty much how I feel: whether Obama or McCain wins, we're screwed, because neither is going to make the unpopular but necessary decisions to significantly limit spending. ------------- |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 20:28
Great article, thanks for posting this. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 22:08
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Dont know much at all about Governor Palin, but it is pretty cool McCain chose a female VP but the governor of Alaska!????!!!?? All 11 people and the thousands of polar bears |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 22:43
Almost all of his ideas were out there.
Alaska gets more federal funds per capita than any other state. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 22:47
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I liked Ron Paul because the President has more influence on foreign policy than on anything else and Paul seems to be the only candidate who has the sense to want to get the hell out of this Iraq trainwreck as quickly as possible.
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 22:55
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 22:59
oh christ.. . A little late in the evening to tackle that one hahahha. I'll get to that tomorrow. 
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 23:05
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Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 23:08
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 23:11
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 23:24
Hmmm.....I'm not so sure......though the glazed eyes sort of distract from the awesome mullet. But I do agree that anyone with their finger on the nuke button should at least have some sports reporting under their belt, and in particular a good doggie story  |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 23:41
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 In fact she has better looks than McCain too
 She definitely beautifies the Republican ticket
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 23:51
I don't know, Joe's pretty hot. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:03
He ran for president as a Libertarian once, and he is very much aligned with that party, but he has always remained a registered republican. He's got some economic ideas that I'm not a fan of, but a) I'm not sure that the president has very much power over the economy and b) unless you write-in Alan Greenspan you're not voting for a candidate who knows much about the economy anyways. ------------- |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:41
Only? Have you never heard Obama speak? ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:46
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We won't get out of Iraq during a term of Obama.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 10:01
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 13:51
Any factors that would prevent him would also prevent Ron Paul and his campaign blimp. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 14:29
Just in case no one has noticed but the Iraq government and the present administration are working on a withdrawal schedule right now and should have it concluded before the election. So unless the new president wants to piss off our manufactured ally I would suppose they will just honor this agreement so the point is moot.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 15:05
Well she is a former Miss Alaska contestant. I don't think she is using that for her qualifications for VP though. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 08:58
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I think McCain's choice was either unbelievably stupid, unbelievably cynical, or both.
Another ignorant, science-denying "born again" Christian fundamentalist politician -- just what the world needs now....
 So, disappointed female would-be Hilary voters are supposed to vote for Palin now are they, just because she is a woman? What an insult to women, to reduce the whole decision to a mere issue of gender!
I mean, I'm not making a direct comparison, but Madame Mao and Eva Braun were women too!
This little former mayor an aged heartbeat away from "leader of the free world" and the helm of the most powerful nation and military machine on earth? I shudder to think! Would the Book of Revelations guide her Mid-East actions?
 Hopefully, most 21st-century American women (and men) are just not that stupid.
 I think Obama's choice was brilliant, and McCain's is just ridiculous (leading me to suspect that the Reps know they won't win this time, anyway).
thank god....
And no, I don't want to "debate" my opinion with anyone who blindly follows party allegiance over brain.  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 09:03
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What about these rumours about secret grannies and a pregnant teenage daughter? Oh dear, I feel a bad case of hypocracy coming on.
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 11:16
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 11:18
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 11:28
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I agree with peter, it was both phenomenally stupid and amazingly cynical.
It's increasingly clear that the choice was made ONLY because she's a woman, hoping to swing Hillary voters, and no other reason than that.
I thought it was brilliant at first until I looked at her record. Why would any woman vote for ANYONE who votes against equal pay for equal work?? Apparently Palin thinks she should be paid less to do the same job as a man. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 11:29
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I think he meant the schedule, not the withdrawal, if that's what you're asking. Would have to be some kind of freakin' miracle to complete the withdrawal by then.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 11:37
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As much as people on the internet hate to admit when they're wrong... The more I'm finding out about Palin the more nutty things are coming out, and I'm starting to think this was a bad move. Apparently the vetting process was minimal to non-existent (story about it in the NY Times). About the only good thing about the pick is that hardcore social conservatives love her, but I'm starting to think McCain may have sacrificed more votes then he's gained - and perhaps even more astonishing, I'm not sure how much thought the campaign put into this - bizarre considering how much time they've had to do so. The "wooing" of Hillary supporters is pure B.S. - I live with a Hillary supporter and the Palin pick was a turnoff, not a booster. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 13:45
I don't think he knew about all the ridiculous scandals that are now coming to light (State trooper, close association with Ted Stevens, etc.). Right now the talking heads are still going on gut feel reactions, once people start talking about all that it's over. I didn't think anyone would win a landslide, but she has made it possible. I am positive that McCain and Palin will be remembered as the ones who put the final nails in the coffin the Republicans have been building for themselves for the last 8 years. And I'm saying that as someone who was kind of hoping that McCain would win. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 17:43
because Iraq wants it. -------------
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 17:45
Yes exactly. It is more in the form of a treaty. Be hard for either new candidate to change it because this is what Iraq wants.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 21:29
OK, I needed to move some stuff since I posted it into the totally wrong political thread:
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 03 2008 at 00:31
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Merely for the record: that picture of her at the cocktail party is photoshopped. The shadow doesn't match her head and it's fairly poorly cropped if you look closely. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 03 2008 at 22:43
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I believe in empty vacuous speeches!
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 03 2008 at 23:49
as does the picture of her in a bikini holding a rifle. |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 07:56
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 08:24
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 10:50
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 11:02
Didn't watch it. My roommate turned on the RNC last night and thus began my rage. The DNC would surely make me rage, because these speeches are just persuasions and rhetoric, with no substance or support. But the Democrats don't usually appeal to the lowest common denominator (well, perhaps the LCD for the Dems is just not as low as it is for the Reps...). "Oh, by the way, liberal tax tax tax liberal tax liberal liberal." **applause** "Hate our freedom." *applause** "9/11" **huge f**king applause** And as far as I can gather, Palin's qualifications for VP are being a hocky mom and a governer of a small town. "Oh dontcha know, I'm jus' a regular hockey mom from ...." Well, splendid. Why don't we elect one of the other 50,000 hockey moms in Alaska instead of you? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 11:09
Alaska is neither small, nor a town. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 11:12
Oh yeah, I forgot about that bit. She was gov. of a small town though, before that. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 11:14
Try "mayor". |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 11:15
Whatever. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 12:52
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 12:56
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Here are some interesting Palin articles:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090103148.html?hpid=topnews - Palin is a phony article http://www.washingtonindependent.com/3671/the-reform-candidate#comment-1994895 - then an article about her poor record and a lovely comment from one of her constituents after the article One more reason to not vote for McCain, but still no reason to vote for Obama. |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 12:59
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 13:08
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 14:00
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Thank God those damn conventions are about over. I've been having Coundown withdrawal even though Keith is covering them.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 04 2008 at 18:40
I miss the Worst person segments of his show during this time. I work with a Glenn Beck fanboy. He's been bating me saying that Keith gets all his info from blogs. Have you heard about this? |