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Topic: R-Dawg Solo
Posted By: rileydog22
Subject: R-Dawg Solo
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 23:40
I just finished a couple of ideas that have been bouncing around in my head for a while.  I put them up on http://www.myspace.com/jakereidtotheextreme - my myspace , and I was hoping I could get some constructive criticism.  Every piece except Frithian was done on a single take, and the only instrument used is a five-string bass. 


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Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 03:11

Tangerine Dream for the bass!

Very good experimentation. The minor and major had very brooding undertones- the minor obviously darker than the major. Experimentation was very interesting- could have used some changes in the  underlying rhythm (got a bit boring after a while). Frithian was a bit too much like noodling.

Good playing! Hard to get bass players to step out of their rhythme cocoon but you have certainly dropped the shackles here.

addition: overlay some more bass into the backing harmonies- you build up something that sounds really powerful



Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 04:27
Good experimental ideas - would like to have heard more sustain in the early part of Minor Key Loop, and a bit more smoothness in playing would make the piece come alive. Watch your tuning (says the pot calling the kettle black...).
 
Major Key Loop Mk I seems to suffer in the sustain department too - I'm not keen on the "silent" sections - but that maybe because the bass drops away too quickly. Nice volume control usage - again, I think more smoothness would help.
 
I liked the opening to Noise Experiment Mk I - reminded me of Kraftwerk somehow. Panned out nicely too, with all the minimal changes - this is my favourite so far.
 
Frithian was interesting too - but it sounds like the technique you were using needs work to make it sound a little more musical. It seems clear you were going for a semi-percussive feel, but a lot of it sounds like squidged notes and bloopers - the intention comes across nicely to my ears - but this one falls down in the execution department. I like the change just before the end - pity it was cut off!
 
 
Good stuff, Jake.


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 12:28
Thanks for the listen, guys! 

Honestly, Frithian was just me making random noises and then plugging it through a bunch of effects on audacity.  I kinda like it, but it's not one of my more serious works. 

Major Key loop is definitely getting a do-over, as I don't really like some of the volume swells there.  Plus, I'd like to have it develop a character of its own to distinguish it from the minor version.  The noise piece is pretty rough right now, I definitely have some ideas in there I really like but right now I just need to cut some fat.  Unfortunately, I can't really change the underlying rhythm because I'm using a Loop Station to create it. 


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 12:44
I was thinking about maybe extending the two ambient loop pieces, maybe to about 10 minutes each.  Do you think that it would work at that length? 

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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 18:05
I put up one more piece.  As before, it's just a rough draft, and I'm more concerned about the validity of ideas and proportions than I am about sloppy playing (I know there's some screwups in there).  

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 18:23
i like those sounds, a lot. they remind me of the soundtrck for this great film:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0351461/ - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0351461/


Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 23:40
Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

i like those sounds, a lot. they remind me of the soundtrck for this great film:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0351461/ - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0351461/
 
This is a very good compliment, Jake.


Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:04
I've gotten better. 

Not from you though Angry


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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:46
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I've gotten better. 

Not from you though Angry
 
You explain that Mike Oldfield comparison first.


Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:47
It really does sound like a drunk Mike Oldfield!  Shakes agreed with me!  

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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:49
And the only time Shakes and I ever agreed so emphatically was over matters like the Ultimate Pwn.  

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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:50

I think that the big problem for me is trying to figure out if that's a good thing.



Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:53
There's certainly much worse things for your music to be called. 


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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 01 2008 at 00:56

I'll accept that. For now. Grudgingly.

Anyway, I'll give all your stuff a listen. Digging the first one so far, the Tangerine Dream comparison was pretty spot-on. It's reminiscent of Eno's Ambient 1.


Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 18 2008 at 19:17

On my last.fm dashboard:

http://www.last.fm/home/recs - Music Recommended by Last.fm

  • http://www.last.fm/music/Caravan"> Caravan
    Similar to: http://www.last.fm/music/Soft+Machine - Soft Machine , http://www.last.fm/music/Matching+Mole - Matching Mole , http://www.last.fm/music/Gong - Gong , http://www.last.fm/music/Camel - Camel
  • http://www.last.fm/music/Steve+Hillage"> Steve Hillage
    Similar to: http://www.last.fm/music/Matching+Mole - Matching Mole , http://www.last.fm/music/Soft+Machine - Soft Machine , http://www.last.fm/music/Gong - Gong , http://www.last.fm/music/Hatfield+and+the+North - Hatfield and the North
  • http://www.last.fm/music/Stormy+Six"> Stormy Six
    Similar to: http://www.last.fm/music/Jake+Reid - Jake Reid , http://www.last.fm/music/Art+Bears - Art Bears , http://www.last.fm/music/Samla+Mammas+Manna - Samla Mammas Manna , http://www.last.fm/music/Etron+Fou+Leloublan - Etron Fou Leloublan
  • http://www.last.fm/music/Bob+Drake"> Bob Drake
    Similar to: http://www.last.fm/music/Jake+Reid - Jake Reid , http://www.last.fm/music/Skeleton+Crew - Skeleton Crew , http://www.last.fm/music/Hamster+Theatre - Hamster Theatre , http://www.last.fm/music/Etron+Fou+Leloublan - Etron Fou Leloublan

Booyah. 


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