80's Tull
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Topic: 80's Tull
Posted By: Pyk Owrno Zes
Subject: 80's Tull
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 00:17
| I was watching the Jack in the Green DVD, and I liked a lot of the Broadsword stuff and the song Black Sunday from A, so are those two albums worth buying? I currently don't have any 80's music, cos I'm usually close minded when it comes to 80's music, mainly cos of synthesizers, but I think I could get over it if the music is as good as those songs from the DVD. |
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 01:41
| I would definitely recommend Broadsword, I think it's a very strong album - even if it's more rock than prog. A is quite good as well, but not as even. It has a few good songs like Black Sunday but it's not as good as Broadsword IMO. Go for Broadsword, for sure! Feel A out a bit more. |
Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 16:53
| Broadsword is epic! Then there are a series of weaker albums that may turn you off. Roots to Branches and Dot.com in the 90's are a triumphant return to their more proggish form. |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 20:25
As i have mentioned many times, BROADSWORD  is my favorite JTULL album....and ''A'' is not far behind!!
......and i do own every recording from them , including the supposed big ones!
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 20:39
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"A" is definitly UNIQUE! Not a masterpiece, but UNIQUE. It has Eddie Jobson, the king of the Modern Keys. If you want something NEW from the band check this, not superb, but it has material never done before or after by them.
Broadsword meh. You can also the HIGHLY PRAISED Crest of a Knave, it's their most convincing Tull from the 80's though having a Dire Straits feel. I think you should buy this first. AVOID Under Wraps. It's disastrous. As you said you haven't checked 80's prog, I recomend Drama by Yes and Duke by Genesis. And if you haven't, check Neo-Prog. Good Luck with your purchases! Don't fear the 80's! 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 20:41
AGREE! It's somewhat like Keystudio by Yes or better said, Rajaz by Camel. Having the Prog feel of the 70's but with a another influence, no Celtic or British Folk but Eastern and Oriental influence. EXCELLENT album. |
Weston wrote:Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 20:55
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I haven't heard Under Wraps for 20 years, but I remember actually liking some of the songs (ducking....) And the concert was a blast, I was with a group of about 15 mostly-stoners and poor album or not, we had a REAL good time. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 21:04
fine for me, you'll have the ear-ache not me
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 21:24
If you have to duck, let me join you. This album has been a whipping boy for the purists but I liked it then and I like it now.  I also enjoyed the spooky Cold war theme as well, Very similar to Walking in Light which I also get a kick out of. If Under Wraps would have been an Ian Anderson solo album, it would have received way less flak. BAMM! What was that? another rotten EGG or was that a Tormato?  Hey, I Liked Thomas Dolby's Golden Age of Wireless , so why blame me? ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Pyk Owrno Zes
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 23:10
| yeah, I like what I've heard from Drama, but nothing after that until maybe Keystudio (I've only heard very little from these). |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 04:33
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I agree about Broadsword and the Beast being Jethro Tull's best eighties album.
------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 05:53
but not enought to listen to them in 20 years...
Under Wraps was the first Tull album I bought. Broadsword and A are much better. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 05:55
I've never heard Under Wraps... should I consider myself fortunate? 
------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 06:33
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nah, Under wraps is a good album as it is, but still probably second to last on my J-Tull list nevertheless. About "A". One should probably approach this with the precaution, that the album was originally made by Ian Anderson to be recorded as his first solo album but due to certain circumstances, well, it was after all published as the Jethro Tull album. It's basically got more of those 80s drums and synths that we all know so well, than any other JT album. Basically the new members replaced the old ones who were about to leave anyway, the publishers wanted it to be JT... Broadsword and the Beast is one of my all time favourites. I'm already contemplating on getting my 3rd copy of it after a vinyl and the original cd |
Posted By: Pyk Owrno Zes
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 06:35
| Yeah, I don't care for the 80's electronic stuff, but I can get over it if the music is good. |
Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 10:13
| 'Tis good, don't worry about that, it's JT, it's good. No really, I was watching the Slipstream DVD which comes with the A cd, inspired by this thread, and yes, it's a great album in my opinion. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:20
Good point AB!!!! I had it on cassette, just never got around to re-buying on CD, probably never will.
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:47
Glad to see quite a few posters like BROADSWORD a lot, i was wondering if i was the only one and was in need of mental health help
Time to punish Pablo, lock him up in a dark room with THE FINAL CUT playing over and over
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:53
In a vibrant tribute to our respected TZIRSMAY
 , i will give now a spin and a new chance to UNDERS WRAP.I bought it back last year to complete my JTULL collection, but the love affair between me and this CD stopped there
.......let see what happens now!!! |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 15:29
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Broadsword are the best
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 15:32
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I like Under Wraps a lot. Not bad at all.
A is my favourite and better than Broadsword. More vibrant.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: June 27 2008 at 15:55
| Crest of a Knave is an underatted album IMO. Okay it does have an 80's sound but it also contains the excellent Farm on the Freeway. |
Posted By: grahawk
Date Posted: June 28 2008 at 03:12
| A is an album of two sides. Or at least it was when albums had sides. Side A is great. After Black Sunday it's a very patchy affair and the only other track I like is And Further On. Broadside is my second favourite Tull album after Songs from the Wood and is highly recommended. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: July 06 2008 at 21:19
lol! Have in mind now, that I like it over The Wall, but that doesn't mean it's better!
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Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: July 07 2008 at 23:13
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For those who like Broadsword, don't forget they recorded enough material for a double album in those sessions. The outtakes appeared on the box set 20 Years of JT, and they are every bit as good as what wound up on Broadsword I think. They have also been showing up on classic album remixes and so forth. Concerning Under Wraps - I like it a lot. "Later That Same Evening" is cool because it covers an entire techno thriller novel in three verses. "Nobody's Car" is a real rocker that captures typical 60's spy movie themes, but in a very complex way that vaguely reminds me of Gentle Giant. And the acoustic version of the song "Under Wraps" is just beautiful. The plugged in version is great too. Yes, I do like Under Wraps. It's still the second worst Tull album ever though. Catfish Rising is my least favorite Tull album, but I like it too - some of it anyway. |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 08 2008 at 17:02
Finally the allies come out from under the wraps You got it, governor! Techno spy thriller is spot on. The mood is cold warish (twas the times) and one of the better "new wave" albums of the time. Yes, Yes we know that it was far from the classic folksey Jethro but on ITS OWN MERITS, I enjoyed this album then as much as I do know . So "Stand up and fight coz you know we are right" ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |