Rush fans very own Subdivisions
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Topic: Rush fans very own Subdivisions
Posted By: Yorkie X
Subject: Rush fans very own Subdivisions
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 23:05
I'm a divided man when it comes to my feelings these days about one of my most loved bands ever Rush. I could use your help to help me put things in perspective as I`m not sure if its myself expecting too much or I`m just getting so uncool that I can't relate to them like I could, or if Rush are aiming at a new audience these days and what I fell in love with in the first place with Rush (musicality, philosophical lyrics Peart playing all sorts of rare exotic percussion so on) is gone .. just like a great romance that has reached its expiration point .. is it time to say goodbye ... I'm not sure anymore where in my heart I place modern Rush .. I think I keep them there for good old day memories and sentiment now. How about you how do you really feel about Rush these days ?  |
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 23:09
They are putting out terrific, non-prog music. Don't let the past hold you back. Of course, if you have legitimately not liked their output for many years, it would not be bizarre to just give up. I know people here who gave up 25 years ago. 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 23:38
| they are still going strong. Snakes and Arrows was one of the best prog albums last year. |
Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 00:39
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jwxlite wrote:Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 01:45
| Being someone who really related to the lyrics and LOVED the direction of the music (and am a fanboy) I can say that I really highly enjoy the direction that Rush is going. |
Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 04:13
| Snakes & Arrows is definitely in the bottom 3 Rush albums for me. All it sounded like me was a bunch of older guys trying to be hip and modern, failing to realize that the modern rock scene is stagnant and uninteresting (and they did nothing to change it). Far Cry, maybe the most likable song, goes on for way too long (like most of the album's tracks), repeating the chorus countless times (which King Crimson amusingly blasted in "Happy With What You Have To Be Happy With"). The guitars just sound distorted and muddy and lack variety. The songs sound the same. "The Main Monkey Business" goes absolutely nowhere. The drumming has become uninspiring. "Malignant Narcissism" may have been decent if it weren't for the generic drum patterns. While I appreciate and agree with Peart's lyrics, I feel they were clumsily and bluntly written. It was really a let down to have to sit through 9 S&A songs at the concert and it looked like the rest of the crowd did too. Even in Vapor Trails songs the crowd was excited, but once an S&A song began, the crowd was virtually silent. It's just boring music. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 04:24
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S&A was their best in years, maybe since Power Windows |
Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 12:17
Let's see you do so much better. It's a great album, your loss....
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Posted By: gna2112
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 12:19
| Rush is still very relevant in the modern day music scene, in my opinion. I will be the first to admit that I am a Rushaholic and will always be. Snakes ans Arrows is their best effort since RTB and even better when played in a live setting. After 34 years there isn't many more innovative drum fills, guitar solos, bass runs, etc. that a band can come up with. With that being said, it's about the songs, and their feeling evoked from the listener. For all the Rush haters. you need to move on, this isn't the same Rush from 25 years ago. Just in life, I hope I am not the same person I was 25 years ago, and this is the same with the boys. And finally if you still don't appreciate the Rush, all it takes is one live show...enough said. They are still, the best live band going, and remember they are all in their mid-fifties. |
Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 13:10
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Posted By: Karbo
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 13:12
Is it possible the same could have been said for every tour they did? I mean, on the Vapor Trails Tour, haven't the Vapor Trails songs received the same kind of welcoming? And for the T4E tour? And the Counterpart one?
Just asking to the older fans here: how about the Signals tour? And PowerWindows tour? I wasn't there, so I can't tell.
 But I felt hearing the new songs live mad me like them much more, like I've grown accustomized to them. So I voted yes, I like their new direction, but in a very different way than their older ones. ------------- « Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen. » Ludwig Wittgenstein |
Posted By: SFranke
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 13:51
The crowd loved the new stuff at both shows I attended (one on each leg). I really like Rush's current music, and I am glad that Rasculinecz pushed them on S&A. Here's hoping he keeps it up on the next album. |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 15:15
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I'm going to sit on the fence for this one.
------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 15:53
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The direction is great i think, i just seen them in Kansas City about three weeks ago and the new material material from S&A is great. I think some of their new stuff is their most beautiful work yet.
------------- Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights... |
Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 16:00
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I haven't heard Snakes and Arrows, but I gotta say Vapor Trails was disappointing to me. I still enjoy it when I listen to it, but the songs don't seem as well crafted as before and I really dislike the newer digital grunge guitar sound and lack of keyboards. Lifeson used to have a very unique guitar sound that went "pingy pingy ping," but now it just sludges its way through muddy distortion like a typical grunge band. I thought Geddy Lee put out a better "Rush" album.
I don't think it's always a good idea to keep up with the times.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 16:43
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I like it a lot. I'm going to see them in a little over 3 weeks, hoping that they don't play too much from S&A although I do like it, but I don't want any spoilers. ------------- 
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 19:19
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I don't like the direction they're going in, but I do appreciate that they have some direction instead of becoming caricatures of themselves. That said I really do enjoy the music they are creating despite disliking the direction.
I didn't like the musical roads they went down with Signals, but that path resulted in some of my favorite albums of all time. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 22:35
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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 00:08
| I'm one of those who think that Rush hasn't put out a really great album since Moving Pictures. Don't get me wrong, the newer ones are ok, just not my cup of tea. Have to go with option #2. |
Posted By: Prospero
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 02:27
| Nowadays, it is possible for Opeth fans to enjoy Rush... bad thing. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 02:29
It is? How so? |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 05:43
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Their current direction inspires me, in that they still obviously love what they do, and are top notch musicians. However, it also leaves me a little unfulfilled. I think Grace Under Pressure was the last Rush album, which for me, didn't have a single weak track. Every album since, has boasted some absolute belters, but many songs have just passed me by, and left very little stamp on my memory at all.
They were the band that got me into prog, and as a teenager I was obsessed with them. I'll always buy and enjoy what they produce, but I dont feel what they do now is a patch on what they were doing up to and including GUP. It's not a prog thing. It's simply a good song thing.. |
Posted By: cmidkiff
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 10:19
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I've lost interest after Signals, they started sounding too much like Mr. Mister ------------- cmidkiff |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 14:56
What does that even mean? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 15:07
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^ must be the cookie monster vocals on ... nope, that's not it.
In response to the original post, my response won't be of much help, since I am a fan of almost everything that has come out of the Rush camp, including Snakes and Arrows, with Snakes and Arrows definitely getting the most spins of all the Rush albums in my collection since its arrival. ------------- 
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 19:24
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if they would of continue recording albums like "hold Your fire" I would gave up on them 20 years ago, but Thank God they didn't. when Counter Part came Out I came back as a big fan and I haven't stop ever since. I usually don't compare todays Rush with their earlier material or their 70's stuff I just like them as they are "a good band" I really don't care if their album is Prog or just Pure hard rock as long I like it that it really matter. they are so many bands out there supposedly are prog albums and are so boring. Good music comes in many forms and Rush is a king of that. ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 21:32
I think it is almost impossible to have geddy lee sing cookie monster vocals. That would be interesting to see. |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 22:46
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 05:44
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I definitely enjoy modern Rush, and I don't care if it's prog or not. In my view, there are only two kinds of music: good and bad (or, if you prefer, the one I like and the one I don't). Moreover, as I have often stated around the forums, in some ways I prefer Rush's Nineties output to what they did in the Seventies (with some notable exceptions, of course). They are still one hell of a band, and their live shows are hugely entertaining. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:40
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My favourite period in the history of Rush goes from "A Farewell to Kings" to "Moving Pictures". Actually, all albums from "Caress of Steel" to "Signals" are inspiring. "Hold Your Fire" contains some good songs too.
After that, it went rapidly down the drain and after the disappointing "Roll the Bones" I paid no further attention to Rush. However, I've heard a few good songs from later albums ...
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:44
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:46
+1 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/LinusW88" rel="nofollow - Blargh |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 11:17
I was just like you
but give a try to counterpart, Test for echo and their last one you will enjoy them a lot believe me.it is a shame that Alex doesn't solo and changed his style forever but Rush music is still very powerful and great not as much Prog was there but great rock tunes. Test for Echo is an awesome album from start to finish. ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: dzx
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:45
got to agree with Kestrel here. S&As while being a good album for an average band is a samey so-so album for Rush. I too went to the concert with an even bigger Rush fan in Manchester widely hailed as the best in the UK run and was very disappointed. Went to Milan in 2005 which was the dogs bo****ks apart from the encores from Feedback. so like Vapor trails a lot but S&As is just boring to me. sorry guys ------------- was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice! |
Posted By: Gentlegiantprog
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 19:44
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To be honest I've only bought 2112 up to Moving Pictures, as well as the replayx3 DVD collection, and while 2112-pictures is a perfect run of albums I don't really want to branch out and try any other Rush albums.
------------- Let the maps of war be drawn ! 
http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 19:47
Then you my friend are missing out on a wonderful plethora of albums -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 20:49
Good move, nothing worth a damn has come out of branching out and trying something new. Especially nothing in music. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 21:39
 its in the nature of the progressive spirit to attempt to branch out isn't it ? I think you were joking .. I'll take it that way  |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 21:41
good call. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 14:51
Ditto the good call  ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |