Pinning down your personal taste!

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Topic: Pinning down your personal taste!

Posted By: song_of_copper
Subject: Pinning down your personal taste!
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 10:42

I’ve been thinking a lot about musical taste recently. By which I don’t mean ‘discernment’ or ‘judgement’ or ‘liking the (so-called) right things’ or something like that… But more like particular, specific, personal, individual preference.

I’m not talking about such broad matters as ‘pop v prog’ or ‘commercial v serious’. I’m talking about the moment when you suddenly pin down what it is that links all the things you love together – the aspect that you have been instinctively seeking out, probably subconsciously, when going about your everyday listening/music acquiring activities.

For myself, it hit me only very recently: my key phrase would have to be ‘flamboyant and disciplined’. My two musical favourites are Frank Zappa and – duh, no, really?! – Magma. And who else does ‘flamboyant and disciplined’ like those two? (If you can think of anything, please alert me, because I’m in wide-eyed music discovery mode at the moment, and I’m composing an epic shopping list that you are welcome to help me add to… Big%20smile

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It occurs to me also that I tend to like things that not everybody else in the universe likes or has even heard of. I’m rather picky about music – not one of those people who can boast that they ‘like everything’! For a while I was a bit worried that I was being unintentionally snobbish… but you know what, it’s not so much that I won’t listen to ‘normal popular music’, more that I won’t pay money for it. I will happily pay money to be amazed, but it doesn’t seem worth it to feel – how can I put this? – pleasantly indifferent. My music collection is, for that reason, small, but is pretty much ‘all killer, no filler’ (well, I think so... LOL

). I’m kind of an ‘all or nothing’ person with music, although not usually obsessive (I’ll make an exception for my untreatable Magma addiction! Hug

). I’ve got a reasonably high tolerance for weirdness, but I put that down to repeated exposure to ‘Trout Mask Replica’ during late adolescence. Confused

My usual yardstick of quality: if ‘I could have done that’, it’s probably not worth paying money for… If it makes me wish I could play [instrument name] just like [musical genius], or – even better – has me gibbering in soundbite-metaphors and turning into an amateur music journalist (of the most irritatingly verbose kind), then you can lead me by the ear to the nearest cash register. (I’m opinionated, not to mention fond of writing, so anything that unleashes my ‘inner columnist’ will probably have me enthralled from the word go.)

The final thing that’s important to me is ‘mode of discovery’. I’m always glad to get recommendations, at least in part because any excuse to talk to other people about a shared love for music – beyond-the-valley-of-the-top-40 music especially – is worth taking, in my book! But most of the things that I love best sort of fell into my lap almost, rather than being introduced to me. (Has anyone else had any of those spooky experiences where you can look back and trace your inexorable, unknowing progress towards something that you were made to love…? I know, that sounds witlessly pretentious, but perhaps you know what I mean…)

So now I’m interested to find out what governs others’ musical habits. Especially: have you got a neat phrase that sums up the essence of your favourite music, however diverse it might be? I’m also quite fascinated by the range of musical attitudes out there. Presumably music is a passion to you or you wouldn’t be looking at this site, but musical passions come in such a wide variety of flavours! What are the facets that make up your particular appreciation for music?

Wow, hmm, I ask a lot of questions, don’t I! Tongue

Well, if any of this strikes a chord and you feel like writing a little bit about this stuff – I realise it’s rather a large subject, but don’t let that put you off! – I’d be genuinely interested to read your thoughts… Big%20smile

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 11:03

Excellent post, very thought provoking. I started to make an attempt to describe my personal tastes, then discovered I had a very hard time doing so. Hate to do this, but I'll need to get back to you - which, again, means your thread is already a success.

Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 11:07

for me I would say "weirdness with a magic". plain old weirdness is not enough. some examples:

for movies: "The Holy Mountain" by Alejandro Jodorowski, "Rashomon" by Akira Kurosawa, "Don't Look Now!" by Nicholas Roeg
for paintings: Hieronymus Bosch, many surrealists
for music: Johann Sebastian Bach, Mahler, Stravinsky. you may ask what is so weird about Bach, but I find his high complexity extremely weird. and he was definitely weird for his time (which is why he had to be rediscovered in the 19th century)

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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 12:32

Most music I enjoy because it spirals around in deeper cerebral levels that are difficult to access otherwise. I can always tell how much I enjoy an album by how many layers I can jump between and still maintain a level of entranced mindf**k (no other word describes it quite like "mindf**k"). For example, last night before I went to bed I listened to Van der Graaf Generator's Still Life for the first time in a while and every song I could shift between focusing on a certain instrument or Peter's vocals while still paying attention to the others, just there is so much to uncover if you pay attention to different aspects. I usually don't pay much attention to lyrics, but vocals are important, but if I'm in the right mood, following along to the music with the lyric sheet can add even more dimensions to already dense music (varies depending on the quality of the lyricist, of course).

Music is basically a drug to me, if I am in a certain mood and want to amplify that, I'll listen to a certain genre (heavy, relaxed, complex, minimalist, instrumental, etc.). Experimenting while listening to certain music in certain moods sometimes produces strange, but almost always positive, feelings. A recent example of this was listening to Cocteau Twins's Treasure late at night, being tired and ready to go to bed. A few minutes after putting on the album, not sure what triggered this, but I ended up feeling very airy, or "high" if you want to call it that. Of course the music is very airy and beautiful, but so far only that one time produced the floating feeling. I've had several mystical experiences by listening to music completely sober chemically, but they usually seem to be random, or at least produced only at a certain unique mood that you cannot replicate simply by listening to the same music at a later time.

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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 12:50

I'm attracted to music I find playful and what I mean by zat is zat I enjoy it when an artist or group experiments in ways zey enjoy - think of The Residents (or Mr. Bungle's!) plundering, overt nonsensicality and grotesque interpretation of rock music, or else Gentle Giant's (or After Dinner's!) jaunt anachronism. Maybe that is enough to draw a circle around most of what I enjoy but it's not to say I don't like more serious bands - Magma, KC and Henry Cow are/were very purposeful groups (no matter what Belew thinks) but they all have an obvious whimsy of their own, whether it's histrionics and apparent profound belief in quite an absurd story, relentless self-referentialism or just sheer inaccessibility to the casual. Bands with quirks, shall we say? Outside of prog I like plenty of music, but I find the most remarkable singers most memorable too - Bjork, Gruff from the Super Furry Animals and so on. That scene is good pretention.

What I don't like (and what is abundant in the prog of 2008) is when a band is serious without really meriting it, IE, any band responsible for one of the ~30 albums I've heard which rip-off straight-faced the foundations of their genre, sprinkle on contrived lyrics and make no real attempt to advance the form. That scene is bad pretention.

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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 13:24

Pinning down your personal taste?

I have no idea what so ever all i know is if i like what i hear i like it and then will more than likely buy it
that would explain that i am the opposite to you in that i have huge collection of Music spanning many different genres , though i would say most of it being Prog Rock(ha ha what ever that means ?) , Jazz and Folk Roots (English and Celtic)
So if my Ears Like it then thats good enough for me .

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Posted By: MikeDupont
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 15:27

[QUOTE=BaldJean] for me I would say "weirdness with a magic". plain old weirdness is not enough. some examples:

for movies: "The Holy Mountain" by Alejandro Jodorowski, "Rashomon" by Akira Kurosawa, "Don't Look Now!" by Nicholas Roeg

Lol, yes The Holy Mountain was a rather interesting movie, not neccessarily wierd, nothing is really wierd for me, just funny, interesting, moving, whatever......I think the best example of what a advant-garde would look like if it was a movie, would have to be Eraserhead by David Lynch. Check it out! Wink

Posted By: MikeDupont
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 15:35

Hey man..I understand what you mean by not wanting to put money towards something that isn't really goin to "BLOW" you away. So here are a few different suggestions I have for you....

If you like Frank Zappa, but don't particularly find the extreme advant-garde of albums Like Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart...I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest you get "Shiny Beast" by Captain Beefheart. At times It reminds me so much of albums like Hot Rats...its highly melodic even for Beefheart, but the wierdness and fun is still there.

Since you claim to like music thats flamboyant and Diciplined, and also seem to enjoy the more Yang side of prog. (Magma) I suggest you try out some stuff by Van Der Graaf Generator. Godbluff is their best in my opinion, it may not hit you at first, but the band is really quite melodic, and very diciplined and structured. The phylosophic lyrics of Peter Hammil are extremely orgasmic, so yes you should try it out ;) afterwords, if you like that, you should try Still Life, or even go a step back, and pick up Pawn Hearts.

How could I have forgoten? Perhaps the most diciplined band of them all.. CAN! This krautrock band was seriously ahead of its time, with the dark atmospheres and the solid drum patterns, this band is top notch. I would HIGHLY recommend picking up TAGO MAGO. expectially if you like Magma...these bands share a certain dark approach..if thats even the appropriate turm for it.....

Well I hope these few things help you out...;)

Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 15:48

I like quirky. I like "weird". I like experimentation. I like diversity within music (not just across genre lines but within the same song/album). I like the willing to do the unconventional. I like the unexpected. I like to be surprised...to an extent at least. I like smart. I like emotion...to an extent again. I like fun. I like energy.

Theres probably more...and I might augment this list later. But quirky, weird, energy, and diverse are big. Thats certainly something about a certain modern genre (no names here, don't want to corrupt a good thread...but its not metal!) that kinda puts me off. Everything is similar to a degree and its just not exciting after awhile. There are also small nuances to the above, such as bands don't need to radically change their style from album to album for me to keep enjoying them (but direct clones are obviously bad). Example to make it clearer: KC's first two. Very similar to me. Love both of them though, and still love KC. If a band has a winning formula theres no need to get crazy and rewrite the book so quickly.

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 16:00

1. spaciness, wide open space-evoking, warm, sometimes distant music (early Porcupine Tree)
2. strong chord progressions, synths maybe, emotional but interesting (Neo Prog)
3. electronic, spacey, futuristic, (electronic prog)
4. heavy, complex, perhaps somewhat medieval, very strong on catchiness (prog metal, power metal)
5. fun things! (Gong, Flaming Lips)

lots more, hard to pin down

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 16:10

NaturalScience wrote:

Excellent post, very thought provoking. I started to make an attempt to describe my personal tastes, then discovered I had a very hard time doing so. Hate to do this, but I'll need to get back to you - which, again, means your thread is already a success.

Hehe, thanks! Smile

I've not put anything on the 'blog' section before, so even this much of a reply was nice to have!

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 16:13

BaldJean wrote:

for me I would say "weirdness with a magic". plain old weirdness is not enough. some examples:

for movies: "The Holy Mountain" by Alejandro Jodorowski, "Rashomon" by Akira Kurosawa, "Don't Look Now!" by Nicholas Roeg
for paintings: Hieronymus Bosch, many surrealists
for music: Johann Sebastian Bach, Mahler, Stravinsky. you may ask what is so weird about Bach, but I find his high complexity extremely weird. and he was definitely weird for his time (which is why he had to be rediscovered in the 19th century)

Ah, 'weird with magic' - that's a great combination! Weird-for-weird's-sake... not so interesting.

I'm with you on Bosch and Surrealism, too. I love that combination of macabre and silly! Wink

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 16:42

Bluesaga wrote:

Most music I enjoy because it spirals around in deeper cerebral levels that are difficult to access otherwise. I can always tell how much I enjoy an album by how many layers I can jump between and still maintain a level of entranced mindf**k (no other word describes it quite like "mindf**k").

Oh goodness, you've put your finger on it with that phrase! "Entranced mindf**k"... Yes, oh yes, that feeling you get when one layer of meaning slides across another... meaning-friction... oooh.... Stop, I'm getting carried away... LOL

Er, um, seriously, yes, that thing with the complexity, the multiplicity, et cetera... I really like that. Big%20smile

And re. 'music as a drug':

Myself, I'm always sober chemically (she said smugly Tongue

) but I totally agree on the psychoactive effects of music! I think with me it tends to occur most when my sense of time is thrown out of joint (usually by something contradictory in the rhythm). A bit like the sonic equivalent of looking at flashing lights! My theory is that if you confuse your brain enough, eventually it gives up and leaves you in this sort of fugue state, 'between the notes'... Like being 'between the dots' in a printed picture... The emotional content is important as well, of course. I notice these effects a lot more if I'm very tired/drained.

Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 17:11

Hm... a few key factors:

1. Atmosphere and imagery. If it doesn't handle either of those, I usually don't get that interested in something.
2. Lyrical content and delivery. As a pretentious banker with a w who occasionally puts his own poems onto paper (or, worse still, the internet), I find a lot of interest in cleverly phrased, interesting, atmospheric and intelligent lyrics. Van Der Graaf Generator, thus, were love from the instant I heard Arrow. Not to say I won't listen to music with bad lyrics, but lyrically strong material usually gets the biggest reaction.
3. Constant movement. If a bass-line is completely sterile throughout a piece, I usually won't like it. Same sort of thing with drums, guitar, etc. I also don't particularly like instances of random repeats (Rush are guilty of this, I think) to get a theme into your head without developing it. I want music to have the right space to develop, but not to overstay that space.
(4. GOOD pop-length prog songs. Get me every time. Catchy themes, clever variation, stunning soloists, clean vocals, decent lyrics)

Don't care about heaviness, jazziness and style overmuch. I find it sort of difficult to take metal seriously, though. Very fond of more 'psychedelic' improvisations.

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 17:14

I guess (!) I'd pin my tastes down to dark-eclectic. I really love the dark stuff. The blacker the better - anti-heroes in a dystopian nightmare - the melancholic romantic - lost love - a morose by any other name would sound as sweet - the unhappy endings - the modulation to a minor key - a dissonance - the augmented forth - diabolus in musica. Once they invent Prog-Goth I'll be a happy bunny (there is a breed of Goths who are perpetually happy - they are called Perky Goths and think everything is peachy keen - they are as depressing as they sound).

But then I'd never try and pin it down my tastes, it would be like a mounted butterfly in a collectors' display-case - pretty, but dead and unable to fulfil it's ultimate purpose.

what I'm trying to say is I like a broad spectrum of music - more because I love 'discovery' as much as I do 'reflection' - I never tire of what I've got, but I do like finding new things, in new directions, in new flavours, colours and hues.

- that spooky experience? Serendipity - the lucky discovery that has little to do with luck. Do we find what we are looking for because we are more receptive to the unknown? Are we able to recognise what we've found more readily because an open mind lets things in, not out? Do we filter the wheat from the chaff, then notice fractal patterns in the discarded chaff as being of more interest, simply because we look beyond what is in our hands? Are we drawn to what we like by some strange attractor or is it just instinctive? Happenstance is just being in the right place at the right time - the skill is choosing the right time to be in the right place. (Sorry, not attempting to answer your question, more musing over why I like what I like - the journey is as informative as the destination)

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 17:16

laplace wrote:

I'm attracted to music I find playful and what I mean by zat is zat I enjoy it when an artist or group experiments in ways zey enjoy - think of The Residents (or Mr. Bungle's!) plundering, overt nonsensicality and grotesque interpretation of rock music, or else Gentle Giant's (or After Dinner's!) jaunt anachronism. Maybe that is enough to draw a circle around most of what I enjoy but it's not to say I don't like more serious bands - Magma, KC and Henry Cow are/were very purposeful groups (no matter what Belew thinks) but they all have an obvious whimsy of their own, whether it's histrionics and apparent profound belief in quite an absurd story, relentless self-referentialism or just sheer inaccessibility to the casual. Bands with quirks, shall we say? Outside of prog I like plenty of music, but I find the most remarkable singers most memorable too - Bjork, Gruff from the Super Furry Animals and so on. That scene is good pretention.

Sheer bravado, doing something completely quixotic, being silly about the serious and serious about the silly... sincerely eccentric, rather than self-consciously so... I very much agree with this sort of thing! "Good pretension" - that's an interesting concept. Sort of... taking IDEAS to the extreme, but without getting all po-faced and pompous about it. Or maybe, on the other hand, musicians being brave enough to keep a straight face despite the inherent ridiculousness of whatever it is they're doing, rather than doing it 'ironically'...

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 17:19

Hawkwise wrote:

Pinning down your personal taste?I have no idea what so ever all i know is if i like what i hear i like it and then will more than likely buy it
that would explain that i am the opposite to you in that i have huge collection of Music spanning many different genres , though i would say most of it being Prog Rock(ha ha what ever that means ?) , Jazz and Folk Roots (English and Celtic)
So if my Ears Like it then thats good enough for me .

Haha, that's put me in my place! LOL

Of course, that's the only real criterion: do I like the noise it makes...?

Posted By: MikeDupont
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 17:36

After giving it some serious thought....I have come back now to describe why it is that I truly like what I listen to. I've come up with the theory that people base their music tastes mainly on how the music reflects upon ourselves......let me explain...

When you listen to music...I come up with a few different things that people think about while listening to it

1: to picture the band playing, with their instruments, perhaps live, simply visualizing the guys...

2: Imagining yourself perhaps performing the peace,....playing the instrumets, singing, whatever, and imagining what the audience's reaction would be to you....

3: picturing an image or scene that has nothing to do with say a live performance or the musicians at all...this is were people let the music make them have a "cosmic" experiance or whatever....

Basically though..music is a translation for people to express their own feelings where words simply can't. This is why people like to share their music with other people, they hope that people will understand them better...which often works.

One of my favorite film directors, Stanely Kubrick, once said that words were a terrible straitjacket. By this he means it is extremely difficult to ever say something you REALLY mean...some emotions simply can't be turned into vocabulary. However...he did also say that some things can express emotion to another dimension that words can't, and one of these was music.

So when I don't feel like trying to explain something with everything coming out as a mumbly mess, I use the music to help sort my thaughts...for myself and others.

And than of course some poeple listen to music cause it sounds good and they want to dance :P

Share your thaughts.....forgive me for any bad spelling :P

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 17:38

MikeDupont wrote:

If you like Frank Zappa, but don't particularly find the extreme advant-garde of albums Like Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart...I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest you get "Shiny Beast" by Captain Beefheart. At times It reminds me so much of albums like Hot Rats...its highly melodic even for Beefheart, but the wierdness and fun is still there.

Well, you picked a good 'un - I absolutely love 'Shiny Beast'! Probably my most-played Beefheart. (And always my personal recommendation for anyone who's looking for an entry point to Beefheart...) But I LOVE 'TMR' as well! In fact, without that record, I wouldn't be listening to half the stuff I like now. Train your ears up on that and you're equipped to listen to pretty much anything...

MikeDupont wrote:

Since you claim to like music thats flamboyant and Diciplined, and also seem to enjoy the more Yang side of prog. (Magma) I suggest you try out some stuff by Van Der Graaf Generator.

And you read my mind again! I've been thinking that might be my next experiment, although it'll have to wait its turn (the Zeuhl/RIO/Avant Shopping List now begins to rival War and Peace for length...)!

MikeDupont wrote:

How could I have forgoten? Perhaps the most diciplined band of them all.. CAN!

Another very perceptive suggestion... I have to say that I've rather avoided Krautrock up till now - there seems to be so much of it, and I get weary thinking about the vastness of it... Still, at least now I know where to start, if the urge takes me! LOL

MikeDupont wrote:

Well I hope these few things help you out...;)

Thanks indeed! Smile

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 18:00

TGM: Orb wrote:

Hm... a few key factors:

1. Atmosphere and imagery. If it doesn't handle either of those, I usually don't get that interested in something.
2. Lyrical content and delivery. As a pretentious banker with a w who occasionally puts his own poems onto paper (or, worse still, the internet), I find a lot of interest in cleverly phrased, interesting, atmospheric and intelligent lyrics. Van Der Graaf Generator, thus, were love from the instant I heard Arrow. Not to say I won't listen to music with bad lyrics, but lyrically strong material usually gets the biggest reaction.

Hmm... yes... an ebb and flow of imagery, brought on by the music and the words... engaging your imagination, not just your sense of rhythm... all pretty essential, I'd say!

Normally I can't bear to hear 'bad' lyrics (the 'bad' is a matter of opinion, of course...) unless they're 'endearingly bad'. Moments of Sixth Form poetry and 'tortured artiste' pomposity can occasionally be forgiven, if I like the perpetrator well enough... (this means you, Todd Rundgren...!)

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 18:15

darqDean wrote:

I guess (!) I'd pin my tastes down to dark-eclectic. I really love the dark stuff. The blacker the better - anti-heroes in a dystopian nightmare - the melancholic romantic - lost love - a morose by any other name would sound as sweet - the unhappy endings - the modulation to a minor key - a dissonance - the augmented forth - diabolus in musica. Once they invent Prog-Goth I'll be a happy bunny (there is a breed of Goths who are perpetually happy - they are called Perky Goths and think everything is peachy keen - they are as depressing as they sound).

You know, I bet someone has invented Prog-Goth! Standing about in black garb, looking peeved and expressing one's deep existential angst via a tone poem for alternatively-tuned guitar... I can hear it now! LOL

Oh my, 'Perky Goths' - that's a lovely paradox. Maybe I could be one. A combination of Mary Poppins and Nosferatu... Confused

darqDean wrote:

But then I'd never try and pin it down my tastes, it would be like a mounted butterfly in a collectors' display-case - pretty, but dead and unable to fulfil it's ultimate purpose.

Dead butterflies... Ok, so I think you just named your Prog-Goth band! Tongue

darqDean wrote:

- that spooky experience? Serendipity - the lucky discovery that has little to do with luck. Do we find what we are looking for because we are more receptive to the unknown? Are we able to recognise what we've found more readily because an open mind lets things in, not out? Do we filter the wheat from the chaff, then notice fractal patterns in the discarded chaff as being of more interest, simply because we look beyond what is in our hands? Are we drawn to what we like by some strange attractor or is it just instinctive? Happenstance is just being in the right place at the right time - the skill is choosing the right time to be in the right place. (Sorry, not attempting to answer your question, more musing over why I like what I like - the journey is as informative as the destination)

Musing is good. And I like what you wrote here! Makes sense to me...

I'm not sure that my spooky experiences involved serendipity as such - more like the feeling of having been 'set up by fate', or pursued by it, even... hard to describe without sounding like an idiot, so I'll leave that topic for now!! Confused

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 18:29

MikeDupont wrote:

After giving it some serious thought....I have come back now to describe why it is that I truly like what I listen to. I've come up with the theory that people base their music tastes mainly on how the music reflects upon ourselves......let me explain...

When you listen to music...I come up with a few different things that people think about while listening to it

1: to picture the band playing, with their instruments, perhaps live, simply visualizing the guys...

2: Imagining yourself perhaps performing the peace,....playing the instrumets, singing, whatever, and imagining what the audience's reaction would be to you....

3: picturing an image or scene that has nothing to do with say a live performance or the musicians at all...this is were people let the music make them have a "cosmic" experiance or whatever....

Something I totally forgot to mention is that if something doesn't make me want to sing, then forget it - it's not for me - and that doesn't mean that I only like music with singing already in it, or straightforwardly-tuneful things... So I sometimes daydream a little bit as in your second description! LOL

I firmly believe that 'language' is not restricted to words alone... the mind ascribes meaning to all sorts of things-which-are-not-words, and those units of meaning form part of the endless ocean of *relevance* that we are floating about in... music is a huge component of that... yes, I'm aware that I am rambling... pay no attention... lalalala...

So when I don't feel like trying to explain something with everything coming out as a mumbly mess, I use the music to help sort my thaughts...for myself and others.

And than of course some poeple listen to music cause it sounds good and they want to dance :P

Oh, yes! Dancing. Absolutely! Just try and stop me. And that goes for wedding reception cheese as much as it does for epic 'suites' in oddball time signatures...

Share your thaughts.....forgive me for any bad spelling :P

Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 18:56

I like music that is aloof.

Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 19:14

song_of_copper wrote:

MikeDupont wrote:

How could I have forgoten? Perhaps the most diciplined band of them all.. CAN!

Can are fantastic indeed. I started with Tago Mago, which may or may not be a good choice. Now that I am more experienced, I think that Soundtracks might be the best starting place. It demonstrates the styles of Malcom Mooney and Damo Suzuki Can, which are very different. It's also relatively accessible compared to the rest of their discography, Future Days would be good if you want something more mellowed out and electric. Tago Mago is one of my favorite albums ever though, so many musical horizons packed in the double LP, I believe they could have expanded any one of those songs and made it into an entire album in itself. From the ominous chanting on Augmn, the psychedelic landscapes of Paperhouse, the pure weirdness of Peking O, etc.... don't want to ramble.

Neu! and Amon Duul II are other obvious recommendations. Neu! is more electronic sounding, Amon Duul II is more psychedelic. Avoid Neu! 2 at first, since the debut and 75 are much better. For Amon Duul, I find Phallus Dei to be their best work, Yeti and Tanz der Lemminge contained a bit too much improv jamming for my liking at first, plus as double albums they took longer to digest. Wolf City is accessible, catchy at times in fact, that might be a good place to start although Phallus Dei is a better idea of Krautrock.

If you like more electronic, check out Popol Vuh's first two albums or Tangerine Dream. If you want more psychedelic, look into Ash Ra Temple or Agitation Free. I LOVE Faust's debut, but it's one of the weirdest things I've heard, check out the sample "Why Don't We Eat Carrots". So Far is still weird but not nearly as much, the sample represented on PA is sort of Velvet Underground-esque and catchy (to me, but I find weird things catchy and pop stuff easy to forget about mostly).

A.R. and the Machines are another one of my favorites, but they're a bit more obscure. I reviewed their first two albums if you want to check them out (I don't review much - my earlier ones are embarassing), I actually have Die Gruene Reise on vinyl which costed around $35 but was well worth it. Echo is my favorite kraut album along with Tago Mago. I think Die Gruene Reise is their only album with a legit CD issue, you'll probably have to download them illegally (unless you buy a non-legit CD copy or the LPs, which isn't likely since they go from $50-$250 (Echo).

Discovering Krautrock was one of my favorite periods in musical exploration, and I've had quite a few. But like a lot of smalelr music genres, once you reach a certain point, there becomes little to find besides obscure bands, which generally are obscure for a reason (some pleasant exceptions arise, of course). Interestingly enough, there are quite a few modern "kraut revival" type bands that I plan on looking into soon.

Anyway, that's enough typing for now, I don't think I've typed that much in a single post in ages. :P

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 19:39

Shakespeare wrote:

I like music that is aloof.

Now that's an interesting one. Aloof... that could mean, I suppose, something that rewards perseverance, that many people will remain nonplussed by even after a reasonable exposure to it. Something that doesn't openly display its fantasticness to all-comers. Or just something that's apart from everything else - not necessarily elitist/exclusive (but perhaps that too!)... something unique.

I think I like things that strike a chord with my own personal eccentricities. 'Being aloof together', so to speak... LOL

Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 21:02

Still thinking...for now let's just say my taste is whatever James and Dylan tell me to listen to. Wink

Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 23:03

song_of_copper wrote:

Shakespeare wrote:

I like music that is aloof.

Yeah, aloof is a good word 'cause it can mean a lot.

Another good word for me is otherworldly.

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 06:30

Bluesaga wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

MikeDupont wrote:

How could I have forgoten? Perhaps the most diciplined band of them all.. CAN!

[snip!]

Anyway, that's enough typing for now, I don't think I've typed that much in a single post in ages. :P
Thanks again, it was an interesting read! Smile

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 06:43

Shakespeare wrote:

Yeah, aloof is a good word 'cause it can mean a lot.

Another good word for me is otherworldly.

Yes indeed, another excellent one! Music (or any ideas-stuff) that brings into sharp relief a totally alternative perspective on things often leaves the deepest marks, I suppose. Alongside 'otherworldliness' I think 'bigger-than-the-world-ness' (forgive the clumsy coinage!) works pretty well too - something that takes the spotlight away from the petty everyday concerns of some whiner's romance problems (for example), and pulls the focus out onto the bigger picture...

And again I'm reminded of that interesting moment that you get with music (etc.) sometimes, where all of a sudden, some private idea, thought or feeling that you assumed put you in a minority of one, is being perfectly expressed - better than you could ever do it - in someone else's creative work. Shocked

Eep, yikes, don't get me started. I could begin to be very longwinded and whimsical here! LOL

Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 07:53

Interesting.

Big%20smile

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Posted By: Fuzzy OneThree
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 00:12

I think I like music that no one else can make the same. It is really present in my prog (Tool, Radiohead, ELP, etc.) and even my non-prog (Incubus, APC, even Enimem).

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 13:27

Very interesting thread. I think it's about time I weighed in my 2 cents.

My father showed me Rush roughly four years ago; before that I always liked music but wasn't heavily involved with it. After I got into Rush (through their 80s albums and 2112, actually), it's been quite a roller coaster ever since, and music is definitely my passion. Over time I've increasingly become more and more open to different kinds of music, but I'd say music has to have some sort of recognizable substance (many others here would agree), or else I won't enjoy it.

More specifically, my top 5 include: Rush, Magma, Frank Zappa, Ozric Tentacles, and King Crimson. So I'd say my all-time favorites are open to quite a spectrum, but the music has to be dynamic. The only two prog bands I've really grown out of (that I used to love) have been Pink Floyd and The Moody Blues, so I'd say once I really did find my taste I like music that is incredibly unique, dynamic, and has some degree of at least substantial musicianship. Other bands I love though range from Meshuggah to 3 to Return to Forever to Kansas to Henry Cow, so I'd say when it comes to an actual "sub-genre" I'm not really biased.

To me, listening to music is like undergoing a completely innovative, pre-constructed "journey" that the composer(s) constructed with certain emotions, thoughts, and structures in mind. It's almost like a process of transposing your current reality and trying to completely immerse yourself in the art. If music is truly worth my time, it will make me feel and think outside of a box that I have before. The more that music strikes me personally, the more that I'll enjoy it.

A great example of this is Frank Zappa, of whom I'm definitely an infinitely large fanboy. I love how he put all of his constant soul, thoughts, and emotions into his music and really stretched the pre-conceived idea of what music has to be "contained" in. I love expressing new boundaries of musical expression, and Frank never lets me down. He takes everything in his life incredibly seriously, but he also knew when to have fun, use wonderful satire, and his music is the absolute perfect blend of a great, humorous, yet simultaneously serious and thought-provoking look on life. In summary, the music has to be intellectually stimulating, fresh, and full of emotions and what I call the "soul" of the artist. I'll only enjoy music if I believe I can almost have a conversation with whoever is playing the instruments and created the music. Thankfully, since I came across this site about three years ago, I've found that there are seemingly endless loads of music that can fulfill that.

Well, enough of my rambling; someone make sense of that. LOL

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 13:50

Technical - with qualifiers
Weird and quirky - with qualifiers
Atmosphere -with qualifiers

My personal tastes, of course, trend towards those artists who display excellent musicianship, and I'm drawn to the usual prog metrics of odd time signatures and such, but I also have trouble with bands that don't inject some...humanity into the mix, for lack of a better term. My tastes of late are trending towards artists that even many prog fans might find a bit "out there" - but I know I have a limit for this, an artist that is too noisy will most likely not be one that I can necessarily appreciate. I like plenty of atmosphere, of the kind that prog will often times institute with keyboard work (i.e. one of my favorites Rick Wakeman's work on Tales from Topographic Oceans), but again too much in that direction (Schulze or TD)...I'm not familiar enough with the work in the genre to be definitive, but I'm not sure it'll really be my thing. One concrete thing I've noticed is that I really, really love music with a jazzy feel (if it's not just jazz or JR/fusion, of course)

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 16:47

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Very interesting thread. I think it's about time I weighed in my 2 cents.

Thanks, your cents (both of 'em) are much appreciated! Tongue

My father showed me Rush roughly four years ago; before that I always liked music but wasn't heavily involved with it. After I got into Rush (through their 80s albums and 2112, actually), it's been quite a roller coaster ever since, and music is definitely my passion. Over time I've increasingly become more and more open to different kinds of music, but I'd say music has to have some sort of recognizable substance (many others here would agree), or else I won't enjoy it.

'Substance': that's an interesting word. And quite open to interpretation. But I guess you mean that 'disposable' music - half-hearted music, indeed - is not for you. I have to say I agree.

More specifically, my top 5 include: Rush, Magma, Frank Zappa, Ozric Tentacles, and King Crimson. So I'd say my all-time favorites are open to quite a spectrum, but the music has to be dynamic. The only two prog bands I've really grown out of (that I used to love) have been Pink Floyd and The Moody Blues, so I'd say once I really did find my taste I like music that is incredibly unique, dynamic, and has some degree of at least substantial musicianship. Other bands I love though range from Meshuggah to 3 to Return to Forever to Kansas to Henry Cow, so I'd say when it comes to an actual "sub-genre" I'm not really biased.

Well, we have two of our top five in common. And they are probably the top two for me. And the two who most strike a very personal chord with me...

Dynamic is a good word also. Range and drama in music attracts me greatly too.

Y'know, I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but I really don't like Pink Floyd. Not that I think their music is bad, exactly - but it makes me feel creepy. I can't stand to hear it, physically or psychologically... Unfortunately, it's my boyfriend's favourite band. Meanwhile, he loathes Magma - for exactly the same reason! It's a happy home... LOL

To me, listening to music is like undergoing a completely innovative, pre-constructed "journey" that the composer(s) constructed with certain emotions, thoughts, and structures in mind. It's almost like a process of transposing your current reality and trying to completely immerse yourself in the art. If music is truly worth my time, it will make me feel and think outside of a box that I have before. The more that music strikes me personally, the more that I'll enjoy it.

That's a pretty good description. I don't think it's possible to truly enjoy music without some kind of empathy - you have to care about the 'journey' you're being taken on I suppose - and the best moments in music, for me, are the ones when you feel like the composer read your mind. Shocked

A great example of this is Frank Zappa, of whom I'm definitely an infinitely large fanboy. I love how he put all of his constant soul, thoughts, and emotions into his music and really stretched the pre-conceived idea of what music has to be "contained" in. I love expressing new boundaries of musical expression, and Frank never lets me down. He takes everything in his life incredibly seriously, but he also knew when to have fun, use wonderful satire, and his music is the absolute perfect blend of a great, humorous, yet simultaneously serious and thought-provoking look on life. In summary, the music has to be intellectually stimulating, fresh, and full of emotions and what I call the "soul" of the artist. I'll only enjoy music if I believe I can almost have a conversation with whoever is playing the instruments and created the music. Thankfully, since I came across this site about three years ago, I've found that there are seemingly endless loads of music that can fulfill that.

Nuff said. Frank Zappa made the impossible look easy, whilst never obscuring the sheer effort he put into everything. And I love that combination of imaginative flights of fancy with practical common sense. I'm probably a little spoiled by having FZ as my musical yardstick... yet another reason for 'quality over quantity' on my CD and LP shelves! [Edit... duh... NOT 'quantity over quality'... Embarrassed

]

Again I like what you say about 'having a conversation' with the musicians - oh yes, you've got to feel the uniqueness, and the genuineness, coming across! Absolutely.

In fact, I forgot to put in my original post that PERSONALITY is a big deal for me in music. Not that I can't listen to music made by boring people, but I only ever really get absorbed in music which is made by people who intrigue me. It helps to have that tangible humanity there, as you say. And really, nothing bores me more than people taking a kind of pride in their own 'averageness'. Give me a vain, flamboyant genius any day! In fact, give me at least two, so I can feel really spoiled!

Well, enough of my rambling; someone make sense of that. LOL

I enjoyed your rambling sir! Well rambled indeed! LOL

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 17:14

NaturalScience wrote:

Technical - with qualifiers
Weird and quirky - with qualifiers
Atmosphere -with qualifiers

My personal tastes, of course, trend towards those artists who display excellent musicianship, and I'm drawn to the usual prog metrics of odd time signatures and such, but I also have trouble with bands that don't inject some...humanity into the mix, for lack of a better term. My tastes of late are trending towards artists that even many prog fans might find a bit "out there" - but I know I have a limit for this, an artist that is too noisy will most likely not be one that I can necessarily appreciate. I like plenty of atmosphere, of the kind that prog will often times institute with keyboard work (i.e. one of my favorites Rick Wakeman's work on Tales from Topographic Oceans), but again too much in that direction (Schulze or TD)...I'm not familiar enough with the work in the genre to be definitive, but I'm not sure it'll really be my thing. One concrete thing I've noticed is that I really, really love music with a jazzy feel (if it's not just jazz or JR/fusion, of course)

Haha, 'out there' is good. Try as I might, I can't get away from odd music. There's plenty of stuff that's more 'difficult' than my favourites, but most of what I like is eccentric in some way...

Yep, too much noise isn't great for me either. And I think that's one of the things that comes under the heading of 'discipline' for me. I like music that's controlled - has boundaries. Can't stand flabby, unfocused, airy-fairy type stuff - I like an all-powerful (evil?) genius in charge, with everything so tight that the music could turn on a dime... Psychedelic noodling: no thanks!! And just blaring out an ungrammatical noise... well, anything can be music, if someone thinks it is, but... hmm...

I think your three prerequisites go pretty well together to balance everything out: you don't want precision without any idiosyncracies/personality, or without any feeling; you don't want unfocused/impersonal weirdness for its own sake alone; and you don't want just 'atmosphere' (emotional manipulation; or thinking about it another way, style/mood) without substance and structure.

I've also begun to wonder about my 'darkness' threshold. (Thinking about 'atmosphere' again...) I hate horror movies/books etc., and I'm pretty sunny of disposition (just call me Pollyanna!), but all the things I've become drawn to musically of late (well, almost all) seem to have a slightly sinister aroma. No idea where that's come from. Confused

Haha, next thing you know I'm going to start wearing a corset!* Wink

[*Most unlikely.]

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 23:48

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Very interesting thread. I think it's about time I weighed in my 2 cents.

Thanks, your cents (both of 'em) are much appreciated! Tongue

No problem. Big%20smile

My father showed me Rush roughly four years ago; before that I always liked music but wasn't heavily involved with it. After I got into Rush (through their 80s albums and 2112, actually), it's been quite a roller coaster ever since, and music is definitely my passion. Over time I've increasingly become more and more open to different kinds of music, but I'd say music has to have some sort of recognizable substance (many others here would agree), or else I won't enjoy it.

'Substance': that's an interesting word. And quite open to interpretation. But I guess you mean that 'disposable' music - half-hearted music, indeed - is not for you. I have to say I agree.

Yes, entirely. I will not listen to music that I think was half-hearted or music that simply copies what has been done before... that being said, I'm really open to anything.

More specifically, my top 5 include: Rush, Magma, Frank Zappa, Ozric Tentacles, and King Crimson. So I'd say my all-time favorites are open to quite a spectrum, but the music has to be dynamic. The only two prog bands I've really grown out of (that I used to love) have been Pink Floyd and The Moody Blues, so I'd say once I really did find my taste I like music that is incredibly unique, dynamic, and has some degree of at least substantial musicianship. Other bands I love though range from Meshuggah to 3 to Return to Forever to Kansas to Henry Cow, so I'd say when it comes to an actual "sub-genre" I'm not really biased.

Well, we have two of our top five in common. And they are probably the top two for me. And the two who most strike a very personal chord with me...

Dynamic is a good word also. Range and drama in music attracts me greatly too.

Y'know, I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but I really don't like Pink Floyd. Not that I think their music is bad, exactly - but it makes me feel creepy. I can't stand to hear it, physically or psychologically... Unfortunately, it's my boyfriend's favourite band. Meanwhile, he loathes Magma - for exactly the same reason! It's a happy home... LOL

Well, I'm glad I found someone else. I liked them 3 or 4 years ago, but I don't like them at all anymore. Saying that out loud on here though is like going in the middle of a really rough neighbourhood and purposefully picking out fights. You might just get shot. LOL

(nothing to add, perfectly stated)

A great example of this is Frank Zappa, of whom I'm definitely an infinitely large fanboy. I love how he put all of his constant soul, thoughts, and emotions into his music and really stretched the pre-conceived idea of what music has to be "contained" in. I love expressing new boundaries of musical expression, and Frank never lets me down. He takes everything in his life incredibly seriously, but he also knew when to have fun, use wonderful satire, and his music is the absolute perfect blend of a great, humorous, yet simultaneously serious and thought-provoking look on life. In summary, the music has to be intellectually stimulating, fresh, and full of emotions and what I call the "soul" of the artist. I'll only enjoy music if I believe I can almost have a conversation with whoever is playing the instruments and created the music. Thankfully, since I came across this site about three years ago, I've found that there are seemingly endless loads of music that can fulfill that.

Nuff said. Frank Zappa made the impossible look easy, whilst never obscuring the sheer effort he put into everything. And I love that combination of imaginative flights of fancy with practical common sense. I'm probably a little spoiled by having FZ as my musical yardstick... yet another reason for 'quality over quantity' on my CD and LP shelves! [Edit... duh... NOT 'quantity over quality'... Embarrassed

]

Again I like what you say about 'having a conversation' with the musicians - oh yes, you've got to feel the uniqueness, and the genuineness, coming across! Absolutely.

In fact, I forgot to put in my original post that PERSONALITY is a big deal for me in music. Not that I can't listen to music made by boring people, but I only ever really get absorbed in music which is made by people who intrigue me. It helps to have that tangible humanity there, as you say. And really, nothing bores me more than people taking a kind of pride in their own 'averageness'. Give me a vain, flamboyant genius any day! In fact, give me at least two, so I can feel really spoiled!

Personality is a huge factor for me too (what the hell, it's almost like you read my freaking mind LOL

), and I love experiencing the wide array of different personalities that I call my favorites. Being a drummer, the fact that my idols are Neil Peart, Christian Vander, and Bill Bruford says that I'm pretty open-minded, but it's also an indication that they all have vibrant personalities when they're playing (for me, anyway, I feel like I can fully connect with them when they're playing their music). If an artist can't "connect" to me with a personal touch in the music, it's not bound to reach my favorites.

Well, enough of my rambling; someone make sense of that. LOL

I enjoyed your rambling sir! Well rambled indeed! LOL

Thank you. Embarrassed

It's what I do. LOL

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:43

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

Y'know, I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but I really don't like Pink Floyd. Not that I think their music is bad, exactly - but it makes me feel creepy. I can't stand to hear it, physically or psychologically... Unfortunately, it's my boyfriend's favourite band. Meanwhile, he loathes Magma - for exactly the same reason! It's a happy home... LOL

Haha, well, I shall have to make sure to wear my bullet proof vest in future! LOL

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:02

...and just hope they're dumb enough to aim for the vest

it's okay not to like Floyd, or any band - all tastes are different.

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:42

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Haha, well, I shall have to make sure to wear my bullet proof vest in future! LOL

I already do. I would wear like 10 though if I also didn't like Genesis or Porcupine Tree. Tongue

(*cough*Magma > Genesis*cough*)

....I didn't say that!! LOL

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:45

darqDean wrote:

it's okay not to like Floyd, or any band - all tastes are different.

Haha, never were there more true words, but I sometimes wonder if people realize that...

I'm generally pretty open-minded to any type/sub-genre of progressive music, but PF doesn't do it for me anymore. I had the same thing happen with The Moody Blues... And also, when I first heard Spock's Beard I liked them alot too, but that wore off pretty quickly. The Flower Kings are more my type for that kind of stuff, but I always recognize the impact and position of the bands, despite that they just aren't as much to my taste.

But being a huge Porcupine Tree fan, whenever I find someone else who is as well, they'll ask me if I like Pink Floyd. I'll say that "I used to, but don't really listen to them anymore", and they'll give me the most bizarre looks. It's great. LOL

EDIT: Typo. I'm way too perfectionist about these things. Confused

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:00

^ I guess I'm one of those rare people who has never fallen out of love... If I've loved something (or someone) at sometime in my life then I still do in someway or other.

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:27

darqDean wrote:

^ I guess I'm one of those rare people who has never fallen out of love... If I've loved something (or someone) at sometime in my life then I still do in someway or other.

I hardly ever "grow out" of something, but in the case of some music, my tastes have rapidly developed in the last 4 years. Because of that, there will be artists I like more or less than I used to, but I'll still love them.

However, I do have that occasional band that I liked but then after a certain time just don't hit me the same. I suppose I never did truly "love" their music, or else it would have stayed with me. That's my theory anyway.

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:27

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

LOL

Haha, well, I shall have to make sure to wear my bullet proof vest in future! LOL

I already do. I would wear like 10 though if I also didn't like Genesis or Porcupine Tree. Tongue

(*cough*Magma > Genesis*cough*)

....I didn't say that!! LOL

Er, maybe a suit of armour... Confused

(That thing you didn't say... of course I couldn't possibly comment... Wink

)

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:32

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

LOL

Haha, well, I shall have to make sure to wear my bullet proof vest in future! LOL

I already do. I would wear like 10 though if I also didn't like Genesis or Porcupine Tree. Tongue

(*cough*Magma > Genesis*cough*)

....I didn't say that!! LOL

Er, maybe a suit of armour... Confused

(That thing you didn't say... of course I couldn't possibly comment... Wink

)

*runs up to attic storage* Now where did I put that armor...?

I love ProgArchives. A place where people actually understand when I make music jokes or references, and especially those who understand the consequence of my "heresies"; it's so wonderful. It's even better when I find someone who agrees with me on them. LOL

(Like how I don't like Pink Floyd, think Magma is the greatest thing ever--yes, better than Yes or Genesis, *gasp*--, or absolutely love Rush's and King Crimson's 1980s stuff to death Embarrassed

)

EDIT: Maybe I should stop hijacking your thread now. Tongue

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:37

darqDean wrote:

...and just hope they're dumb enough to aim for the vest

'Salright, I'll just round up a bunch of really mean Magma fanatics to act as my bodyguards. Tongue

it's okay not to like Floyd, or any band - all tastes are different.

Good thing too. Never having to defend one's opinion... it'd be dull! Wink

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:39

song_of_copper wrote:

darqDean wrote:

...and just hope they're dumb enough to aim for the vest

'Salright, I'll just round up a bunch of really mean Magma fanatics to act as my bodyguards. Tongue

Ooooh!! Me first!! Anything for the Almighty Vander!! LOL

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:47

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

Er, maybe a suit of armour... Confused

(That thing you didn't say... of course I couldn't possibly comment... Wink

)

(Like how I don't like Pink Floyd, think Magma is the greatest thing ever--yes, better than Yes or Genesis, *gasp*--, or absolutely love Rush's and King Crimson's 1980s stuff to death Embarrassed

)

EDIT: Maybe I should stop hijacking your thread now. Tongue

I'm starting to like it here too. Of course, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about most of the time, I'm only just dipping my toe into all this music... and I have the suspicion that I confirm my general idiocy in every post... but it's fun nonetheless! Smile

I'm happy you hijacked the thread... it's turning into a conversation! Big%20smile

[General Descent into Fanaticism update: I now have a picture of Magma on my pinboard at work. Embarrassed

Vander's eyes really do follow you around the room... I hope the cleaner won't die of fright. Dead

]

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:48

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

darqDean wrote:

...and just hope they're dumb enough to aim for the vest

'Salright, I'll just round up a bunch of really mean Magma fanatics to act as my bodyguards. Tongue

Ooooh!! Me first!! Anything for the Almighty Vander!! LOL

Ok, but you must bring your own leather overcoat and Zeuhl medallion. Tongue

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:00

darqDean wrote:

^ I guess I'm one of those rare people who has never fallen out of love... If I've loved something (or someone) at sometime in my life then I still do in someway or other.

Sort of the same for me, I think. There are things that I don't listen to as often nowadays as I used to, perhaps - but that doesn't mean I don't still rate them very highly. (And some of 'em are so ingrained on my brain from repeated listening that it's almost easier to remember than actually listen again... Confused

)

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:52

song_of_copper wrote:

I'm starting to like it here too. Of course, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about most of the time, I'm only just dipping my toe into all this music... and I have the suspicion that I confirm my general idiocy in every post... but it's fun nonetheless! Smile

Haha, I haven't detected a pinch of idiocy in any of your posts; they seem well-thought out and they're always very interesting to read. Big%20smile

I've been on this site unofficially for 2 or 3 years now, easily, and I still know there are grounds I haven't discovered--But I love it that way. I grew to like some more sub-genres since then for sure too--I used to be heavily into Symphonic Prog, but now I have about equal knowledge of alot of them. I never was much of a metalhead either before I found this site... but ironically, I'm listening to Opeth right now, and loving it.

I'm happy you hijacked the thread... it's turning into a conversation! Big%20smile

Well, thanks! It's about time my music-rambling skills came in handy. Tongue

[General Descent into Fanaticism update: I now have a picture of Magma on my pinboard at work. Embarrassed

Vander's eyes really do follow you around the room... I hope the cleaner won't die of fright. Dead

]

OMG!

That's really awesome! *bows to you since that's one of the most awesome things I've ever heard* LOL

I'll need to do something like that.

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:54

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

darqDean wrote:

...and just hope they're dumb enough to aim for the vest

'Salright, I'll just round up a bunch of really mean Magma fanatics to act as my bodyguards. Tongue

Ooooh!! Me first!! Anything for the Almighty Vander!! LOL

Ok, but you must bring your own leather overcoat and Zeuhl medallion. Tongue

Man, that reminds me of just how badly I want a Zeuhl medallion. LOL

Oh well, at least I have the shirt. Big%20smile

(Seriously though--to any hardcore Zeuhlhead who might be happening to look at this thread or anyone else who would know---if someone finds somewhere where I can get one, that'd be wicked as hell... I haven't had any luck, haha)

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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 05:09

Good post Miss M, can't place your taste with mine because I have never lent an ear to Zappa nor Magma, which is unfortunate, but I have such a big CD collection, that I possibly have over a hundred that I have only listened to once, and another century of listened two twice amd I reckon I must have two dozen waiting for me to listen to ONCE!

I probably won't be happy till my entire house is stacked from floor to ceiling with prog CD's....

But in essence my taste is for Excellent Muscianship and EXTENDED theme and multiple repetition of themes, thus SYMPHONIC PROG usually hits the mark, and I'll let you guess my three favourite bands.......

Ciao.

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 05:45

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Man, that reminds me of just how badly I want a Zeuhl medallion. LOL

Oh well, at least I have the shirt. Big%20smile

The Seventh website has 'em (along with various other bric-à-brac and sundries!): http://v2.seventhrecords.com/achat/index.php?catid=37 - here

I so want the MDK score.

I'm doing a silversmithing course in the summer. It might be rather fun (although somewhat silly) to make one... Big%20smile

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 09:41

M27Barney wrote:

Good post Miss M, can't place your taste with mine because I have never lent an ear to Zappa nor Magma, which is unfortunate, but I have such a big CD collection, that I possibly have over a hundred that I have only listened to once, and another century of listened two twice amd I reckon I must have two dozen waiting for me to listen to ONCE!

I probably won't be happy till my entire house is stacked from floor to ceiling with prog CD's....

Ciao.

Thanks, glad you liked it! Smile

I'm not the best person to make a guess, because I'm pretty clueless about most prog really... but I suppose Yes is always a safe bet?! Tongue

I've heard of people having to move house to accommodate their collections of stuff (not necessarily CDs), so you're not alone on the out-of-control collection...

Mine is relatively free of things I've not listened to yet/only heard once or twice, but that's because I'm a very sceptical customer...! LOL

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 10:05

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Haha, I haven't detected a pinch of idiocy in any of your posts; they seem well-thought out and they're always very interesting to read. Big%20smile

Thanks! 'Mutant appreciation' heading your way of course... Smile

[Snippety snip]

[General Descent into Fanaticism update: I now have a picture of Magma on my pinboard at work. Embarrassed

Vander's eyes really do follow you around the room... I hope the cleaner won't die of fright. Dead

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OMG!

That's really awesome! *bows to you since that's one of the most awesome things I've ever heard* LOL

I'll need to do something like that.

Embarrassed

And now I'm being bowed to!! Heavens! Embarrassed

It is awesome, of course, that you find that awesome... Most people would probably be wondering why I have a rogues' gallery of *bad 1970s hair* on my wall... LOL

The joy of having an office to yourself is that you can play whatever music you like, so the playlist is just as awesome as the pictures. The other day I put on 'Weasels Ripped My Flesh' - and nobody noticed! Shocked

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 10:24

song_of_copper wrote:

The Seventh website has 'em (along with various other bric-à-brac and sundries!): http://v2.seventhrecords.com/achat/index.php?catid=37 - here

Yay, thanks!! Big%20smile

Now I know they exist. LOL

I will get something... somehow...

I so want the MDK score.

I'm doing a silversmithing course in the summer. It might be rather fun (although somewhat silly) to make one... Big%20smile

Woah... that would be even more wicked. Not only could you go around with a freaking awesome Magma medallion, but you could then be even more proud that you made it! If I were taking that course (which sounds really cool... now I wish I could LOL

), I definitely would do it.

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 10:34

Oooh... I love how colorful these posts are getting. Tongue

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Haha, I haven't detected a pinch of idiocy in any of your posts; they seem well-thought out and they're always very interesting to read. Big%20smile

Thanks! 'Mutant appreciation' heading your way of course... Smile

No problem. Smile

OMG!

That's really awesome! *bows to you since that's one of the most awesome things I've ever heard* LOL

I'll need to do something like that.

Embarrassed

And now I'm being bowed to!! Heavens! Embarrassed

It is awesome, of course, that you find that awesome... Most people would probably be wondering why I have a rogues' gallery of *bad 1970s hair* on my wall... LOL

Haha, no, I'm one of those extremely few people who thinks that's just about one of the coolest possible thing ever. LOL

I would definitely hang pictures of Vander, Peart, Bruford, and many other completely awesome people, haha.

The joy of having an office to yourself is that you can play whatever music you like, so the playlist is just as awesome as the pictures. The other day I put on 'Weasels Ripped My Flesh' - and nobody noticed! Shocked

Yes!! That is also deserving of some sort of commemoration, haha. Just the fact that you can play that album while you're working... I'd never leave that job! LOL

(Well, it depends)

If I had an environment like that, I would definitely bring in different music every day... I'd probably spend 30 minutes at home a day just deciding which kickass CD to bring the next day. Tongue

Man, that makes me wish I was working at that same place you were; we could have music wars (whoever notices our music the most and gets pissed at it the most... that's always fun). I would love bringing things like Magma- "Kohntarkosz", Gentle Giant- "Interview", Soft Machine- "Third", Captain Beefheart- "Trout Mask Replica", King Crimson- "Discipline", and many other favorites of mine to work.

That sounds incredibly epic. Though I'm probably the only person I know who would think that (except two of my friends, and of course the fine people here on PA LOL

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 10:58

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Oooh... I love how colorful these posts are getting. Tongue

Getting a migraine yet?? Dead

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

[Snip!]
The joy of having an office to yourself is that you can play whatever music you like, so the playlist is just as awesome as the pictures. The other day I put on 'Weasels Ripped My Flesh' - and nobody noticed! Shocked

Yes!! That is also deserving of some sort of commemoration, haha. Just the fact that you can play that album while you're working... I'd never leave that job! LOL

(Well, it depends)

It's a pretty ok place. My work's quite dull, hence my ability to concentrate on it whilst music is playing (not to mention post messages on here...), but the people are... eccentric. Tongue

(Who am I to talk - I'm one of 'em...)

If I had an environment like that, I would definitely bring in different music every day... I'd probably spend 30 minutes at home a day just deciding which kickass CD to bring the next day. Tongue

Playlist mainstays, both.

Currently listening to Present, 'Triskaidekaphobie'.

That sounds incredibly epic. Though I'm probably the only person I know who would think that (except two of my friends, and of course the fine people here on PA LOL

).

Epic indeed! Epic is good! Big%20smile

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 11:26

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Oooh... I love how colorful these posts are getting. Tongue

Getting a migraine yet?? Dead

No, but my eyes are not thanking me. LOL

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Yes!! That is also deserving of some sort of commemoration, haha. Just the fact that you can play that album while you're working... I'd never leave that job! LOL

(Who am I to talk - I'm one of 'em...)

Yeah, I know what you mean. I listen to music very often though, and most of the time I'm able to concentrate on something while listening to music (it may depend on what it is).

If I had an environment like that, I would definitely bring in different music every day... I'd probably spend 30 minutes at home a day just deciding which kickass CD to bring the next day. Tongue

Playlist mainstays, both.

Yay! I bet you at least get some comments on those two, I would imagine. LOL

Currently listening to Present, 'Triskaidekaphobie'.

Present keeps popping up to me in my daily activities. I should probably take this as a sign and start getting some of their stuff. Tongue

What do you recommend?

I love how I've pretty much strayed off topic in several different directions in this thread now. Embarrassed

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 13:51

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Man, that makes me wish I was working at that same place you were; we could have music wars (whoever notices our music the most and gets pissed at it the most... that's always fun). I would love bringing things like Magma- "Kohntarkosz", Gentle Giant- "Interview", Soft Machine- "Third", Captain Beefheart- "Trout Mask Replica", King Crimson- "Discipline", and many other favorites of mine to work.

Check, and check! Tongue

Playlist mainstays, both.

Yay! I bet you at least get some comments on those two, I would imagine. LOL

Not so far, although it's an old building with thick walls... very little scope for noise pollution!

Currently listening to Present, 'Triskaidekaphobie'.

Present keeps popping up to me in my daily activities. I should probably take this as a sign and start getting some of their stuff. Tongue

What do you recommend?

I'm new to them myself, just got hold of the two-albums-on-one-CD edition of 'Triskaidekaphobie' and 'Le Poison Qui Rend Fou'. I'm really liking it - it's very modern sounding for 1980s music, and although many people seem to tag it as 'sinister' and 'dark', it's not a difficult listen - more kind of sarcastic than dark, I think! And it's got a nice amount of complexity going on, without being overly-intellectual sounding. I'd imagine anyone who likes Zappa and Magma might well like it. Smile

I'll probably pick up more at some point but I want to check out Univers Zero first.

I love how I've pretty much strayed off topic in several different directions in this thread now. Embarrassed

And why not indeed?! I'm not complaining... LOL

Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 14:38

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

I'm doing a silversmithing course in the summer. It might be rather fun (although somewhat silly) to make one... Big%20smile

), I definitely would do it.

Well, if I do, you can be sure I'll be posting pictures somewhere around here! LOL

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 15:52

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Check, and check! Tongue

Playlist mainstays, both.

Yay! I bet you at least get some comments on those two, I would imagine. LOL

Not so far, although it's an old building with thick walls... very little scope for noise pollution!

Wow, I bet that's a good thing. Though... just knowing the way I am, I would have at least liked to see some peoples' faces. LOL

Currently listening to Present, 'Triskaidekaphobie'.

Present keeps popping up to me in my daily activities. I should probably take this as a sign and start getting some of their stuff. Tongue

I'll probably pick up more at some point but I want to check out Univers Zero first.

Awesome! It sounds cool to me; I'm definitely adding them to my "to hear" list. However, with the loads of stuff that I have (easily over 1000 CDs), I think it might be a week or two. Since I want to hear them really badly now though, it'd be that much maximum (I hope). Too bad I just went on an acquiring spree. Dammit. LOL

I have all of Univers Zero albums. Big%20smile

Speaking of which.... I'll need to dig those out again either today or tomorrow. Great stuff!! I should listen to them more often. I can't right now though, I'm heavily immersed in the Hhai/Live version of Kohntarkosz (Kohntark). I have it cranked. LOL

As for Univers Zero... all of the albums are really good. But I would go chronologically, personally (if you can).

I love how I've pretty much strayed off topic in several different directions in this thread now. Embarrassed

And why not indeed?! I'm not complaining... LOL

Well, if I have your permission then... Tongue

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 15:55

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

I'm doing a silversmithing course in the summer. It might be rather fun (although somewhat silly) to make one... Big%20smile

), I definitely would do it.

Well, if I do, you can be sure I'll be posting pictures somewhere around here! LOL

YES! Let me know if/when you post them. LOL

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 17:08

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Wow, I bet that's a good thing. Though... just knowing the way I am, I would have at least liked to see some peoples' faces. LOL

Oh totally. Sometimes people come in and say, "Oh, that's nice, you've got music on!", but other than that...

It's odd, they are quite tolerant and not very curious! Confused

Awesome! It sounds cool to me; I'm definitely adding them to my "to hear" list. However, with the loads of stuff that I have (easily over 1000 CDs), I think it might be a week or two. Since I want to hear them really badly now though, it'd be that much maximum (I hope). Too bad I just went on an acquiring spree. Dammit. LOL

According to NaturalScience (see the 'RIO Drop-In Centre' thread...) it can be had for five of yer measly earth-dollars... LOL

but that might be 2nd-hand, I don't know...

There are lots of samples at the http://www.totalzoo.com/present/html/listening.htm - Present website .

I have all of Univers Zero albums. Big%20smile

Go Paganotti! Heart

It's variety all the way here. This Heat followed by Todd Rundgren!

As for Univers Zero... all of the albums are really good. But I would go chronologically, personally (if you can).

Thanks for the tip - I expect that's what I'll do.

I love how I've pretty much strayed off topic in several different directions in this thread now. Embarrassed

And why not indeed?! I'm not complaining... LOL

Well, if I have your permission then... Tongue

Aargh, the offtopickness becomes steadily more epic... this is probably contrary to forum conventions... Confused

But I'm enjoying the conversation muchly! LOL

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 17:33

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Wow, I bet that's a good thing. Though... just knowing the way I am, I would have at least liked to see some peoples' faces. LOL

Oh totally. Sometimes people come in and say, "Oh, that's nice, you've got music on!", but other than that...

It's odd, they are quite tolerant and not very curious! Confused

That does seem really odd. My parents and brother know my interesting tastes... my father is the only one who also loves Rush, Kansas, Yes, and other things like that... but when it comes to Magma or Gentle Giant... LOL

Usually though people are at least curious about what type of music I listen to... (well, I am extremely outward about letting people know that it's my passion Tongue

)

Awesome! It sounds cool to me; I'm definitely adding them to my "to hear" list. However, with the loads of stuff that I have (easily over 1000 CDs), I think it might be a week or two. Since I want to hear them really badly now though, it'd be that much maximum (I hope). Too bad I just went on an acquiring spree. Dammit. LOL

According to NaturalScience (see the 'RIO Drop-In Centre' thread...) it can be had for five of yer measly earth-dollars... LOL

but that might be 2nd-hand, I don't know...

There are lots of samples at the http://www.totalzoo.com/present/html/listening.htm - Present website .

Awesome!! Thanks. Smile

Dang though, earth dollars? Looks like I'll have to go research the Kobaian-Earth exchange rate AGAIN! LOL

I have all of Univers Zero albums. Big%20smile

Go Paganotti! Heart

It's variety all the way here. This Heat followed by Todd Rundgren!

Paganotti is the man. (But not as awesome as Vander... but I'm biased)

I'm still on Magma... this time it's Attahk (which is heavily underrated, IMO), but I was listening to Gentle Giant earlier today. I'm going to be on a Rush phase here soon too, I'd imagine, since I'm seeing them live in 5 days. Big%20smile

Besides that, I have no clue what's after Magma. Maybe Koenjihyakkei or Univers Zero? Not sure yet. But as to the variety, that can happen very often with me. I'll go from listening to Porcupine Tree and then to Samla Mammas Manna. Tongue

As for Univers Zero... all of the albums are really good. But I would go chronologically, personally (if you can).

Thanks for the tip - I expect that's what I'll do.

No problem.

Well, if I have your permission then... Tongue

Aargh, the offtopickness becomes steadily more epic... this is probably contrary to forum conventions... Confused

But I'm enjoying the conversation muchly! LOL

I am enjoying it as well. Screw the forum conventions! Since when was I conventional? Ha. LOL

*makes sure he has his armor on just in case an admin's wrath is provoked*

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 18:08

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Usually though people are at least curious about what type of music I listen to... (well, I am extremely outward about letting people know that it's my passion Tongue

)

I think I need to be more 'outward' with these things! That is actually my mission for 2008... Big%20smile

Dang though, earth dollars? Looks like I'll have to go research the Kobaian-Earth exchange rate AGAIN! LOL

Maybe if you cultivate a basilisk stare and say 'Slaoss!!' they'll give it you for free... LOL

I have all of Univers Zero albums. Big%20smile

Go Paganotti! Heart

It's variety all the way here. This Heat followed by Todd Rundgren!

Paganotti is the man. (But not as awesome as Vander... but I'm biased)

You need both! The chemistry! Big%20smile

I'm still on Magma... this time it's Attahk (which is heavily underrated, IMO), but I was listening to Gentle Giant earlier today. I'm going to be on a Rush phase here soon too, I'd imagine, since I'm seeing them live in 5 days. Big%20smile

I had to rewrite my 'Attahk' review to tone down my original sneering. Didn't like it at all at first. But I often find things that are supposedly 'easier to get into'... harder to get into! If I was a DJ, I'd totally sneak some 'Attahk' into my set. It'd be strangely delightful to see people dancing to Magma. Er, people other than me, that is! Wink

I just had on something completely random - and not to my taste at all! Not sure what you'd call it - industrial goth techno??!! (Had to listen to it as a favour for someone - now see me try and come up with something to say... Confused

)

What do you reckon to Koenjihyakkei? I'm very fond of 'Angherr Shisspa', don't have anything else yet though.

I am enjoying it as well. Screw the forum conventions! Since when was I conventional? Ha. LOL

*makes sure he has his armor on just in case an admin's wrath is provoked*

It's ok, we are too civilised to provoke anyone's wrath. Approve

On which note, sadly, I must go to bed now. Doubtless I shall be around tomorrow though, if you can think of anything else to ramble about! Smile

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 19:18

song_of_copper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

I think I need to be more 'outward' with these things! That is actually my mission for 2008... Big%20smile

Well, I'm rather introverted myself, but when I usually talk to someone, it can be hard not to start talking about music. The odd thing is that when I mention music first it is in an attempt to bring up conversation and somehow relate to the person... most of the time it doesn't work. LOL

Maybe if you cultivate a basilisk stare and say 'Slaoss!!' they'll give it you for free... LOL

That'd be awesome. If I seriously could do that, I would.

You need both! The chemistry! Big%20smile

Ah, good point, haha. But I'm such a huge Magma fanboy that I'd say all of their albums (well, excluding Merci) are at least genius, and nearly all are masterpieces. So the presence of Vander alone is enough for me, but I'll definitely take both if I could. Big%20smile

I had to rewrite my 'Attahk' review to tone down my original sneering. Didn't like it at all at first. But I often find things that are supposedly 'easier to get into'... harder to get into!

I found Attahk as their weakest (hadn't heard Merci) when I first got into Magma, but now I really dig it. Still not my favorite or anything, but it's pretty good.

If I was a DJ, I'd totally sneak some 'Attahk' into my set. It'd be strangely delightful to see people dancing to Magma. Er, people other than me, that is! Wink

That'd be awesome. I'm not the biggest dancer, but I'd definitely go just to see that. LOL

)

I always love listening to samples that people give me when they're enthusiastic about music as well (and not into prog). I can usually predict exactly what the song will do for its entire duration just from the first 10 seconds. Every once in a while I'll hear something that isn't bad, but I may be a bit notorious for being a blunt person. Tongue

I'm easily approachable and helpful, but if someone wants my actual opinion (especially on a song) I'll be fully honest about it.

What do you reckon to Koenjihyakkei? I'm very fond of 'Angherr Shisspa', don't have anything else yet though.

I got into them a few weeks ago and I'm extremely liking it. I have Nivraym and 2 (Ni); I also JUST got Angherr Shisspa, but I haven't heard it yet. My favorite of the two that I've owned for a while is definitely Nivraym. I love them both so it doesn't matter, but that's my personal favorite. My friend prefers Ni, so... either one would be good. Haha.

It's ok, we are too civilised to provoke anyone's wrath. Approve

Indeed we are. Wink

On which note, sadly, I must go to bed now. Doubtless I shall be around tomorrow though, if you can think of anything else to ramble about! Smile

Alright. I should be on and off tomorrow until the evening, but that doesn't really make a difference for communication here, haha. I absolutely love the internet for the simple fact that you can talk to people around the globe, and it's always really interesting talking to people from Europe or Asia simply for the time changes. As of my post it's 19:18 here.

And don't worry, when it comes to music or anything that I ramble about, I could do it for quite a while.

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 26 2008 at 05:44

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Well, I'm rather introverted myself, but when I usually talk to someone, it can be hard not to start talking about music. The odd thing is that when I mention music first it is in an attempt to bring up conversation and somehow relate to the person... most of the time it doesn't work. LOL

Yes, I'm absolutely the same. Also, I'm notorious for having a song lyric quotation for every occasion. Embarrassed

My last somewhat musical conversation at work started out being about the maintenance people's failure to communicate, but somehow I dragged it around to The Residents and their Theory of Obscurity. Big%20smile

I think I'm still somewhat shellshocked by my apparently limitless capacity for adoring Magma. Embarrassed

I'm easily approachable and helpful, but if someone wants my actual opinion (especially on a song) I'll be fully honest about it.

I'm a bit wary of damning something just because I don't like/am unfamiliar with that genre (as I certainly am with industrial type stuff!!). If you're not sure what is being aimed at, it's hard to know if it's a success or not...

I got into them a few weeks ago and I'm extremely liking it. I have Nivraym and 2 (Ni); I also JUST got Angherr Shisspa, but I haven't heard it yet. My favorite of the two that I've owned for a while is definitely Nivraym. I love them both so it doesn't matter, but that's my personal favorite. My friend prefers Ni, so... either one would be good. Haha.

I'll surely be checking them out further in the near future...

Alright. I should be on and off tomorrow until the evening, but that doesn't really make a difference for communication here, haha. I absolutely love the internet for the simple fact that you can talk to people around the globe, and it's always really interesting talking to people from Europe or Asia simply for the time changes. As of my post it's 19:18 here.

Oh yes. Fun and interesting.

Well I'm wondering if there might be a better venue for this conversation, if it continues. Any ideas??

And don't worry, when it comes to music or anything that I ramble about, I could do it for quite a while.

Moi aussi. LOL

Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 26 2008 at 10:20

song_of_copper wrote:

Yes, I'm absolutely the same. Also, I'm notorious for having a song lyric quotation for every occasion. Embarrassed

I thought I was the only one!! LOL

Haha, I bet that was great! LOL

I think I'm still somewhat shellshocked by my apparently limitless capacity for adoring Magma. Embarrassed

I'm not.

I found Attahk as their weakest (hadn't heard Merci) when I first got into Magma, but now I really dig it. Still not my favorite or anything, but it's pretty good.

I love how it's kind of 'the CV Entertainment Special'. Also seems to have a hint of: "Finally, the drums are loud enough in the mix!" ...

Haha, yeah. I always see every Magma album as being pretty unique though; it's quite a feat to see MDK and then have something like Kohntarksoz follow right after it. I mean, they're both Magma, but they're stylistically pretty different. So it's always really hard for me to say the "best" CD (or second best or whatever).

I always love listening to samples that people give me when they're enthusiastic about music as well (and not into prog). I can usually predict exactly what the song will do for its entire duration just from the first 10 seconds. Every once in a while I'll hear something that isn't bad, but I may be a bit notorious for being a blunt person. Tongue

Well I'm wondering if there might be a better venue for this conversation, if it continues. Any ideas??

I always use AIM when talking to my friends or just about anyone, as that is most convenient. I also regularly visit two other websites, but I don't know how that would help the conversation as much.

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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 13:11

Well I like a lot of different music styles that don't always have a connection with one another. To give a simple summarization though I guess I like:

"edgy, non-conventional, exotic, dynamic interaction fantasies"

Posted By: PetrucciPal
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 14:41

Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about musical tastes to lately...and it sucks! Because like, it used to be a lot of classic rock, Rush and Dream Theater. Now, it's been narrowed down to Rush and Dream Theater. Classic rock (to me, Cream, AC/DC, Journey, and sh*t like that) just got old to me, fast. And now...as much as I hate to admit it...I think I like Dream Theater a little more than Rush. But I used to be totally in love with Rush! So idk. It sucks. I'm just all for the big instrumentals, the random beats, the prodigious effort that every member of the band put into every song. Musical tastes are GAY!!! lol XD

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