Yes – what will happen now?
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Topic: Yes – what will happen now?
Posted By: iguana
Subject: Yes – what will happen now?
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 09:48
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now that the tour is cancelled, jon anderson needs to recuperate and any talk of new
"epic" YES material is speculative at best, what will happen in the immediate future, i.e. what will jon's bandmates be up to during the next months? will squire finally get an all-new material solo album done? will white resume touring and recording with CIRCA: or will howe, given the good experience of "phoenix" opt for further immediate work with ASIA (UK'09 dates are already booked)? let the gossiping begin  ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 10:02
A Squire solo album would be cool, something like Fish out of Water, or even better.
I hope that Jon gets better soon. And not because of hope for the tour, I don't expect that they come here again.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 11:38
| Steve Howe is playing small clubs in England; he'll be touring Canada in the fall. Generally speaking, I'm not too crazy about his solo albums, but I've no doubt he's chosen the right thing to do! |
Posted By: elpprogster
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 12:04
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Steve Howe has commitements to Asia until mid- 2009... Chris Squire is definetly out of The Syn... Who knows? In the meantime why not dream about the supergroup of Wetton-Wakeman-Bruford that was to come in 1976, happening in 2009? |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 12:13
| Maybe they'll get Trevor Horn back? |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 14:26
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I'm hoping for a Return To Drama tour featuring Trevor Horn and Geoffrey Buggle. Since this lineup wouldn't be nearly as popular as a lineup featuring Anderson and Wakeman, they'd likely be playing smaller venues with cheaper tickets that I could actually afford. ------------- 
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Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 15:09
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I. personally, feel that Jon will not tour again (I hope I am wrong).
However. if he does tour,I imagine it will be an extremely limited tour.
So, I would Love to see a "Return To Drama" tour! That would be great!
(Or get Trevor Rabin on board, seeing that he sings on a lot of songs.)
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 16:13
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How long do you imagine until they tour again? I think Jon will deffinitley tour again, but the question is when. ------------- 
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:03
The problem is TIME.....Jon Anderson is something like 64 years old. The others are a little bit younger, but Jon is the heart and soul of the band, like it or not.....How many more tours could happen, not that many and we don' t know if his voice will get back to what it used to be
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:06
Wetton-Wakeman-Bruford-???? Another dream team!!!
 we can only dream so much, except i would prefer K.Emerson |
elpprogster wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:11
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^ ooohhh... same here... much prefer Emo for that spot....
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Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:47
| Perhaps rather than an extensive tour, the focus should be on a few great venues recorded for DVD release so all of us get to see them. To me this is the way concerts should go in the future. It would save a lot of wear and tear on the performers -- and the audience. Last concert I tried to go to (not Yes) someone threw up nearby and I had trouble hearing over all the idiots trying to scream into their cell phones during the show. My concerts will be in my living room from now on. |
Posted By: riversyd
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:53
| Yep...It would be great to see a Drama tour! |
Posted By: Ghostnote
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 21:51
| I Don't even care about a tour anymore! I would just like to see Jon get well again and finish a final CLASSIC Yes album, so that they and us Yes lovers could cherish a last masterpiece and let them ride into the sunset of a peacefull retirement. |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 02:26
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What will YES end up doing??? I have no idea, my crystal ball is in the shop for repairs.
Ask me what I wish they would do and that's another matter.
Jon uses that six months to rest and spark that ol' creative intellect he has been known for.
The guys get together to iron it all out. They release the album to the world and follow it up with a 'Thanks and See Ya Later' world tour
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 07:26
I do think we will see that from them.... or hope at least... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Evandro Martini
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 08:34
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I don't really care for yet another best-of tour... Steve Howe Trio is much more adventurous and interesting, and I hope Howe can develop it more in this longer break from Yes. See more abot SH Trio here: http://www.marbecks.co.nz/detail/index.lsd?catalogID=464088 ------------- "You’ll never make any money playing music that people can’t sing.” Keith Emerson's father |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 16:46
Yes has put out many great albums and more than a few questionable ones. I do suspect they will become a part of prog history before too long. I salute them for their contribution to great prog in the '70's 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 16:53
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Jon Anderson will turn into a unicorn. Chris Squire will duel with Geddy Lee at sunrise. Rick Wakeman will try to perform a spectacular show on a frozen lake, but it will collapse and he'll freeze to death. Alan White will legally change his name to Bill Bruford so people will care about him. And Steve Howe will invest in cryogenic freezing technology in hopes that he will be unfrozen in a time where he could conceivable be considered attractive. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 16:59
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I'm just wishing they release another Tales, or CTTE. Not the same Quality or innovation but you know the rumours, the Epics and all.
Songs like The Ladder, New Language, Mind Drive, etc. But all in an entire album. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 17:19
Oooh, prophecy  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: peskypesky
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 01:15
| I think Jon will recover and that Yes will do one last tour in a year or so. As for new music, who knows? It would be cool for them to give it one last shot. |
Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 02:09
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Not interested in Yes these days I honestly dont believe in them anymore |
Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 14:00
Although I love Yes, I do not listen to them anymore. I remember them from the 70's, mainly.
There is SO much great prog being made today, to listen to. I mean how many times (although
a great album, can you listen to "Close To The Edge")
So many people are obsessed with Yes (look at Yesfans!), but, I feel you can miss all these other wonderful bands.
It is time to listen to them.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 14:20
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I think Jon's health problems has just put things on hold a bit. I think he was very much into the 40th aniversary tour and dissapointed that it can't take place.
I think they'll be back next year with perhaps a shorter tour schedule and maybe he might start coming up with a few musical ideas in the time he's laid up for the next (last?) album.
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 18:21
| I think this is the end of Yes. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 16 2008 at 08:06
hahahaha..
 Sounds like we get a happy ending after all. ------------- 
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Posted By: fastandbulbous
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 09:17
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My sincere wish is that they call it a career. They're all in their 60's now, and deserve to enjoy the rest of their lives without satisfying us. I'm content with enjoying what they've done, and of course would enjoy the possibility of smaller, more intimate solo shows and the like. But yeah, it's time to say thanks, and move on.
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Posted By: cesar polo
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 09:27
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I agree with some others in this thread:
It would be great to see a "Drama" tour.
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Posted By: yesheadjon
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 10:21
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When the annoucement was made about Jon's health I read a post on the net that said that the person knew someone close to Jon and this was a bit of a smoke screen. He said that Jon had fallen out with the others and said that he would never tour with Yes again. About a week later the cancellation notice was posted on Yesworld.
I have no idea whether this is true or not but I do think that it is a distinct possibility. Yes has never been a band in perfect harmony off-stage. I think this is the last we will see of the 4 core members touring as Yes. Could see Squire, Howe and White doing something together but can't see Rabin or Horn fronting it. Lets face it Trevor Horn wouldn't sing with them on his Wembley "Produced By" gig. Trevor did play that one but struggled with the Anderson lead vocal on Owner. Can't see him doing a "Trevor Horn circa 1980" job and ruining his credability (and vocal chords!!!) by thrying to go out and replace Anderson on vocals.
Just my personal view.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 11:31
Ooh, lots of times. There's plenty of great prog around today but there's always time to listen to CTTE. After all, it's still better than most of today's prog.
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 12:27
| I think Jon should rest up and they should record a final album for a 41st anniversary, the 4-epic album idea that was brought up. Hopefully it won't be inferior to the Flower Kings. |
Posted By: Evandro Martini
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 18:08
If I count the times, you'll think I'm crazy. Honestly, there's no song I could hear more times without getting tired. ------------- "You’ll never make any money playing music that people can’t sing.” Keith Emerson's father |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 04:04
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thanks for the numerous views! as far as i am concerned, YES is over.
they deserve to be freed from that artistic straightjacket. time to move on – plenty of new things to enjoy out there. i have a feeling that as individual artists they will be with us for many more moons to come but this is an ex-group. it has ceased to be. it has flown from the earth to meet it's maker --- ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 00:52
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Yes will decide where and when, we can but formulate opinions.....
For me I would never tire of listening to CTTE or any Tales songs. Listening to Talk at the moment...fantastic stuff! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: yesheadjon
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 01:33
| How about this for an idea....A "Drama" tour featuring Squire, Howe and White with Geoff Downes on Keys and Max Bacon on vocals. I was listening to Drama yesterday and I reckon Max Bacon could do a really good job on the vocals. He did a decent job on Roundabout for GTR too. It's not Jon but if they stuck to Drama and a couple of less-played classics like Parallels I reckon they could pull it off. |
Posted By: MikeDupont
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 01:55
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Lol, funny this topic is braught up....I just got done watching the YesYears biography on these guys.....yes that was made some time ago but it was still very good, I know a bit more about the guys now ;)
Idk if the music can ever be the same if they made a new record, well I know it wont, which is why I almost wish they would simply continue playing the old good stuff, and come to wisconsin were I live!
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Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 13:03
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Wish for some formation with Trevor Rabin back on the board... he is not only ace on the guitar (especially compared to nowadays Howe), but he can sing. Or Peter Banks and Tony Kaye and make Flash reunion:)
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 21:06
The issue here is not Steve Howe and even if it was, who the hell wants to see Cinema play. I want to hear YES play and I want the guy that was part of that group and all the magic that was YES, not Trevor Rabin. YUK
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Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 04:20
:) Yes with Rabin has the as huge magic as 70s Yes (though from different perspective, not only from that prog-snobbish). And in live version they will be surely better imo. Reunion of sort of Cinema is actually good idea, when Jon is not able to be part of it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trevorrabin/?chartstyle=basic10" rel="nofollow"> <a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow" |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 10:40
I can't agree that Rabin can ever be Steve Howe, sorry. If you want Cinema, well that's another matter.
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Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 18:47
He is not Howe, and that is the good thing, in lot of respects he is better than him. Steve isn't Yes (as much as I admire his work). It is like you say Yes without Wakeman aren't Yes...Only Mabel Greer's Toyshop:). These thoughs shows quite short-sighted and close-minded side of Yes fans. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trevorrabin/?chartstyle=basic10" rel="nofollow"> <a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow" |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 19:29
If you said that Yes without Wakeman and Howe both was only Mabel Greer's Toyshop, I would tend to agree with that statement.
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 19:44
There are three key members in YES and they include Howe, Anderson and Squire. You don't have The YES Album or Fragile or Close to the Edge or Tales or Relayer or Going for the One or Tormato or even Key Studio and Magnification for that matter. So, to say that Rabin can replace Howe is ridiculous. Ya, he can alright and you are left with the cheesy stuff that they did in the 80's and even drama with Steve Howe blows that stuff away.
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Posted By: glasshouse27
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 21:49
| Wow stonebeard thats so hilarious because its so true! |
Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 18:34
If something is cheesy in Yes(-related) 80s stuff, it is Asia with Howe, and definitely not Yes with Rabin:) Yes of 80s with Howe could be probably very ridiculus if not disaster... thanks god Rabin saved their grace and brought them to that era such a breath of fresh air (funny that both key-members Anderson and Squire admire Trevor's work...they have to be foolish:) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trevorrabin/?chartstyle=basic10" rel="nofollow"> <a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow" |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 18:57
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 19:02
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Posted By: peskypesky
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 21:56
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[/QUOTE]If something is cheesy in Yes(-related) 80s stuff, it is Asia with Howe, and definitely not Yes with Rabin:) Yes of 80s with Howe could be probably very ridiculus if not disaster...[/QUOTE]
I don't think the cheese factor in Asia came from Howe. I think it came from John Wetton. He's a total cheeseball. Howe, IMO, played some scorching guitar in Asia. |
Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: June 26 2008 at 13:18
I think the cheese factor brought mainly that age (Wetton, though he leans to that, he's great on UK or KC...). GTR with Howe and Hackett is cheesy as well and even ABWH has hardly the magic of early Yes, though I quite like it. Yes managed with this factor in the great way in 80s. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trevorrabin/?chartstyle=basic10" rel="nofollow"> <a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow" |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 01 2008 at 14:36
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i'll tell you what's gonna happen Yes and King Crimson will release their new albums on the same day and then midnight the following day, the world will explode... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 14 2008 at 12:15
| Simple. I will acquire a Tardis/Time Machine and pop back to the 70s periodically, catching various gigs with all the classic line ups! And all this at 1970s prices too!! |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 13:58
1. My scenario--it will still be a 40th anniversary tour next year, only it will be of the 1st album. The tour will be limited due to health concerns and Howe's solo and Asia commitments. If it's sufficiently limited, that could mean Rick could join up again. 
2. Sorry, the cheese factory proprietor is Mr. Downes--I mean, he's been the only constant. What else explains the John Payne era?
3. Regardless of where you come down on the Howe/Rabin comparison, without TR, Yes comes to a close in 1981. No Yes grammy, no four subsequent tours (until Steve's return).
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 14:23
Or perhaps they will record an album together  King Yes.....................idk-------------
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 11:15
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1.) I could imagine Alan White, Chris Squire, Tony Kaye and Trevor Rabin doing a tour together under the band name Cinema. But they would have no legitimacy calling themselves Yes. They could perform songs from 90125, Big Generator, Union and Talk. I would go and see them if they came somewhere close to where I live and I would buy a live DVD if they released one.
2.) I could also imagine Chris Squire doing a solo tour with some low key musicians, performing songs from Fish Out Of Water as well as Yes songs and maybe a few songs from Conspiracy and The Syn. I would definately buy a live DVD if they did one. 3.) Steve will probably stay with Asia for longer than any one of us could have imagined. The four original members really seem to enjoy themselves now (judging from the Fantasia Live In Tokyo DVD). Also, if Yes never tours again, Asia is the best bet for Steve if he wants to play to major audiences in the future. Steve as a solo artist could never attract the kind of attention from fans and media that the original Asia can do. Further, the other three members of Asia are in similar situations. Neither one of them could attract large audiences on their own and their respective bands are very unlikey to ever reform (with them included). ELP are very unlikely to ever get back together; John Wetton re-joining King Crimson is very unlikely; Geoff Downs could reform the Payne-era line up of Asia but who would be interested? Conclusion: Asia is the only veicle for these four people if they want to be part of a major act in the future. And that must be a strong motivation for all of them to try to keep together. These are my thoughts anyway
 A side note: some people here would like to see a Yes Drama tour. I don't think that is very likely. But given that 50% of Asia played on the Drama album, maybe Asia could play some songs from Drama in their set list in 2009? Not very likely I know and I doubt John Wetton would like to sing these songs, maybe just instrumental versions then?
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Posted By: ziggystardust360
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 12:01
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A reunion with Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes would awesome. ------------- ''I always had the repulsive need to be something other than human''-David Bowie |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 14:20
I agree this would be quite interesting but it is extremely unlikely to happen. I really like GTR though and I think Max Bacon was a great singer for that band and he sure did a great live version of Roundabout. But I doubt they would go down very well performing as Yes.
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 14:41
I used to think that Asia was a very cheesy band and I never really liked their albums. But now when they are reunited in this century I love them! The recent live DVD Fantasia - Live In Tokyo made a believer out of me! It is a great DVD (see my review) and all the songs from the first Asia album sound much better live than they did on the studio album. They even play songs by Yes, King Crimson and ELP in the set list!!! Highly recommended!
I agree with Peskypesky that Howe played some scorching guitar in Asia, but it only truely comes forward on the recent live recording. I don't agree that John Wetton is a total cheeseball, maybe just a little bit
 BTW, Wetton also released a solo live DVD recently called Amorata that I think is great too (yeah, I love live DVDs  ). I can understand why someone would think GTR is a bit cheesy, but I have always loved GTR and found them to be a lot less cheesy than Asia and also a lot less cheesy than 90125 for that matter.
ABWH is not very cheesy at all, just great!
 For me Steve Howe was never responsible for anything really cheesy!
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 14:56
Well, Downes has been the only constant full member of Asia through all it's incarnations but Howe played on several songs on the Aqua album and then again on Aura. He also appeared with them live on the Aqua tour I think. Carl Palmer also guested on some Payne era album if I'm not mistaken.
But you are probably right that Downes is responsible for a lot of the cheesyness in Asia, but all four members were doing it and they are still proud of what they did. Otherwise they wouldn't have reunited today and played all of those songs live again last year.
As I said in my last post I think Asia sounded cheesy on all of their studio albums, but the new live DVD doesn't sound that cheesy at all to me. Well, maybe a little bit but not in a bad way
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 14 2008 at 16:44
Did I kill this topic by posting too many replies in a row? If I did, I surely will not make it any better by quoting myself, but what the heck... I listened to 90125, Big Generator, Setlist:
01. Cinema (Chris Squire/Trevor Rabin/Alan White/Tony Kaye)
02. Leave It (Chris Squire/Trevor Rabin/Trevor Horn) 03. Hold On (Trevor Rabin/Jon Anderson/Chris Squire) 04. Lift Me Up (Trevor Rabin/Chris Squire) 05. It Can Happen (Chris Squire/Jon Anderson/Trevor Rabin) 06. Miracle Of Life (Trevor Rabin/Mark Mancina) 07. SI (Tony Kaye) 08. Changes (Trevor Rabin/Jon Anderson/Alan White) 09. It's Over (Trevor Rabin?) 10. Solly's Beard (Trevor Rabin) 11. Shoot High Aim Low (Alan White/Tony Kaye/Trevor Rabin/Jon Anderson/Chris Squire) 12. .../Whitefish (Chris Squire/Alan White)/Amazing Grace (Traditional) 13. Saving My Heart (Trevor Rabin) 14. Love Will Find A Way (Trevor Rabin) -- First encore: 15. Endless Dream (Trevor Rabin/Jon Anderson) -- Second encore: 16. Rhythm Of Love (Tony Kaye/Trevor Rabin/Jon Anderson/Chris Squire) 17. Make It Easy (Trevor Rabin?) 18. Owner Of A Lonely Heart (Trevor Rabin/Jon Anderson/Chris Squire/Trevor Horn) What do you think?
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Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: August 14 2008 at 19:13
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I read somewhere a couple of days ago that the band was auditioning new singers with the hope of touring again next year with Chris, Steve, Alan, Oliver and ???? Can't recall the source of the info. I rarely take serious notes when surfing.
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 18:52
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It would not surprise me if Yes were done. It seems that there are too many egos, lawyers, other band commitments and age that is against them getting back to record anything vital, I think Magnification may end up as their final swansong....but really even if it is,,,,what a career!
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 19:28
Hire or lure Ian Astbury from the Cult as new lead vocalist and play only the heavy stuff! Heavier!  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: glasshouse27
Date Posted: August 17 2008 at 13:02
| Yes has never been the same in the past without Jon. Its like Tull without ian!!! |