Metal Edge's "Top 25 Prog Albums"
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Topic: Metal Edge's "Top 25 Prog Albums"
Posted By: Josh_M
Subject: Metal Edge's "Top 25 Prog Albums"
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 21:58
25: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
24: Shadow Gallery - Tyranny
23: Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
22: The Gathering - How to Measure a Planet
21: Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy
20: Queensryche - Rage for Order
19: Watchtower - Control and Resistance
18: Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
17: Pestilence - Testimony of the Ancients
16: Cynic - Focus
15: Death - Symbolic
14: Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force
13: Crimson Glory - Transcendence
12: Tiamat - Wildhoney
11: Rush - 2112
10: Tool - Aenima
09: King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska
08: Opeth - Blackwater Park
07: Voivod - Nothingface
06: Meshuggah - DEI
05: Atheist - Piece of Time
04: Dream Theater - Images and Words
03: Fates Warning - No Exit
02: Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
01: Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 22:03
A very interesting list considering the source. It's nice to see Rush on there, but it's very interesting to see Queensryche in the top spot. Maybe prog metal albums? But I wouldn't call Marillion a metal band.
How did Malmsteen get on there!? 
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Posted By: Josh_M
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 22:07
There are a lot of odd choices on there.
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 22:07
lol
ITT not the 1970's
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 22:14
Josh_M wrote:
There are a lot of odd choices on there.
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understatement  
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Posted By: KeleCableII
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 22:49
No Pain of Salvation on a best prog metal list? Shame. :/
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Posted By: Endless Wire
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 22:55
You'd think at least King Crimson would qualify as prog metal...
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 23:10
Josh_M wrote:
25: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood 24: Shadow Gallery - Tyranny Excellent 23: Porcupine Tree - Deadwing good 22: The Gathering - How to Measure a Planet 21: Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy I prefer V or Twilight in Olympus 20: Queensryche - Rage for Order 19: Watchtower - Control and Resistance 18: Atheist - Unquestionable Presence 17: Pestilence - Testimony of the Ancients 16: Cynic - Focus 15: Death - Symbolic 14: Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force ??? 13: Crimson Glory - Transcendence 12: Tiamat - Wildhoney I've always said this (and only THIS) Tiamat album has strong relation to prog... pink floyd meets death metal... 11: Rush - 2112 10: Tool - Aenima 09: King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska ???? 08: Opeth - Blackwater Park 07: Voivod - Nothingface ????? 06: Meshuggah - DEI 05: Atheist - Piece of Time 04: Dream Theater - Images and Words it's 3 places too low 03: Fates Warning - No Exit There are far better and more important FW albums... 02: Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son Excellent... though misplaced 01: Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime Read above
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Well it's mopre than obvious that in place called METAL Edge the list of prog albums would be mostly prog-METAL albums...
What's a surprise are some of these choices...
Most albums are OK, great or excellent, but the order is complete chaos...
One day we have to come with the top-25 (at least) prog-METAL albums of all time...
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 23:39
Well, it's obvious ... Not even one staff member at metal edge magazine has spent any time here whatsoever
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: June 08 2008 at 23:55
Surprising to see Symbolic on there. That's usually the Death album that is least liked of their prog-metal era. I mean I think its a great album, but thats just weird.
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Posted By: Josh_M
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 00:04
Plankowner wrote:
Well, it's obvious ... Not even one staff member at metal edge magazine has spent any time here whatsoever |
lol
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 00:40
I think it's an excellent list. For me this is about spreading the prog message to people who may not know anything about it. Porcupine Tree,The Gathering and Marillion may be bands that a lot of metal-heads know nothing about. Maybe it's because a top 50 list is what got me into prog in the first place that i feel this way. Anyway it's hard to take lists like this too serious, it's fun to read and talk about though.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 00:46
King By-Tor wrote:
A very interesting list considering the source. It's nice to see Rush on there, but it's very interesting to see Queensryche in the top spot. Maybe prog metal albums? But I wouldn't call Marillion a metal band.
How did Malmsteen get on there!? 
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In all fairness, Malmsteen's music has actually been pretty influential on metal, more so than some people believe and he has obviously been a huge inspiration to lots of virtuoso guitarists, in the metal genre and outside as well obviously.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 00:49
Endless Wire wrote:
You'd think at least King Crimson would qualify as prog metal... |
Read the thread on Prog Metal pioneers first. Pretty much everyone with a lot of metal knowledge on here concluded KC is definitely not metal, let alone prog metal.
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Posted By: WinterLight
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 03:17
HughesJB4 wrote:
In all fairness, Malmsteen's music has actually been pretty influential on metal, more so than some people believe and he has obviously been a huge inspiration to lots of virtuoso guitarists, in the metal genre and outside as well obviously.
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All indisputable facts, of course. Moreover, there is some merit to the argument that Malmsteen is progressive: using a baroque approach that could shame even the finest of prog bands, he is one of the vanguards of neoclassicism in modern metal
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Posted By: Demonoid
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 05:41
Josh_M wrote:
25: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
24: Shadow Gallery - Tyranny - Approved.
23: Porcupine Tree - Deadwing - Approved but you can change with another one of theirs.
22: The Gathering - How to Measure a Planet
21: Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy - can change with V over here.
20: Queensryche - Rage for Order - good album but i don't think top 25
19: Watchtower - Control and Resistance - Nice choice there 
18: Atheist - Unquestionable Presence - good one!
17: Pestilence - Testimony of the Ancients - Others can take this place.
16: Cynic - Focus
15: Death - Symbolic
14: Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force - Dodgy one.
13: Crimson Glory - Transcendence - Top 25?!
12: Tiamat - Wildhoney - More like progressive doom metal, but number 20 would be better.
11: Rush - 2112
10: Tool - Aenima
09: King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska - Excellent album, but top 25?
08: Opeth - Blackwater Park - No still life = fail although Blackwater Park is awesome too.
07: Voivod - Nothingface - doesn't belong here.
06: Meshuggah - DEI
05: Atheist - Piece of Time - Unquestionable Presence is anyday better. Should remove this one.
04: Dream Theater - Images and Words - needs to be at number 2.
03: Fates Warning - No Exit - Awaken the guardian, Parallels and APSOG are better choices.
02: Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son - good choice but no way number 2.
01: Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime - Again, misplaced.
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My thoughts 
The orders are screwed up a bit, and number one is definitely TPE1 or Images & words.(I'd go with the former) Remedy Lane and Scenes from a memory can also be added to the list. I really like the inclusion of watchtower, Atheist, Cynic, Death and King's X.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 06:39
not a bad list. actually.... think Symphony X's album should have been much higher..
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 06:56
I just wonder in which way Misplaced Childhood is a prog-metal album...
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 08:54
I would ask the same thing for Deadwing.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 09:41
^ it says "Top 25 Prog Albums" ... not "Prog Metal".
My guess is that the list is compiled from the favorite prog albums of the editors of the magazine ...
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 10:54
micky wrote:
not a bad list. actually.... think Symphony X's album should have been much higher..
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You'r a Symphony X fan! Thats a bigger shock than finding out you like Opeth and Mastodon.
Wrong Gathering album in that list IMO, they should have gone with Mandylion ir If_Then_Else, the title track on How to Measure a Planet is about twice as long as it should have been.
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 13:44
Almost invalid list even if it was supposed to limit on prog metal. It features some albums that I really like, though.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 16:20
sleeper wrote:
micky wrote:
not a bad list. actually.... think Symphony X's album should have been much higher..
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You'r a Symphony X fan! Thats a bigger shock than finding out you like Opeth and Mastodon.
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I guess I am a man of many surprises ... I've mentioned it a few times around the forum... I was exposed to them and DT about the same time.. and there was no comparison. Enjoyed the hell out of Symphony X and DT.. well.... I didn't take to them at all.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 21:46
Well I'm assuming it's a 25 best prog metal albums considering the magazine is "Metal Edge". I don't agree with it that much though. Images & Words should've been 2 or 3 and Deadwing should've been MUCH higher ranked.
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Posted By: decypher
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 20:37
nice list, definitely from someone who was more in the 80's prog metal. great to see Crimson Glory, they are so underrated. Yngwie's debut actually was really good with some nice almost prog metallish stuff like "now your ships are burned" - far ahead of anything that followed.
Some slight changes: Perfect Symmetry instead of No Exit and WatchTower on 1. Dream Theaters WDADU instead of Images and Words and ditch Symphony X for Mercyful Fate or King Diamond, and because it's really getting 80's I think Sieges Even's Steps would be better there instead of Tool.
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Posted By: GentleGiantLover
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 22:41
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Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 14:46
Images and Words shouldn't be on the list.
Scenes From a Memory of 6 Degrees if any Dream Theater Album.
Between the Buried and Me - Colors should be top 10.
Deadwing should be top 5.
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Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 14:47
GentleGiantLover wrote:
This has gotta be the most random and stupid prog-metal list I've ever seen....
There should have been more Opeth albums on the list. I don't understand why they picked 'Blackwater Park' out of all of Opeth's albums....
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They picked it because it is the best...IMO
Besides Damnation
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 21:23
Oh, my god, we're not going to allow them to have their own opinions on OUR music, now, eh !!!
It is surprising, given that they list it as Prog and not prog metal. Nice to see King's X there, though. As for King Crimson, today's metal scene has left them behind, except for some Tool fans. Too bad, cause their last few albums are quite metallish in the guitar sound.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 22:05
debrewguy wrote:
Oh, my god, we're not going to allow them to have their own opinions on OUR music, now, eh !!!
It is surprising, given that they list it as Prog and not prog metal. Nice to see King's X there, though. As for King Crimson, today's metal scene has left them behind, except for some Tool fans. Too bad, cause their last few albums are quite metallish in the guitar sound.
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No worries Debrew, I'm not a huge tool fan by any means, yet I still listen to KC on a daily basis 
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 22:06
preqT0THEseq7 wrote:
Images and Words shouldn't be on the list.
Scenes From a Memory of 6 Degrees if any Dream Theater Album.
Between the Buried and Me - Colors should be top 10.
Deadwing should be top 5.
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Colors is still to new.
Also, Images & Words was the beautiful start of a new prog metal many people think..including myself.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 20 2008 at 22:07
I'm just getting into DT via Images & Words and Scenes from a Memory. I was going to start up a thread asking what upset people here at PA about PA, but then I didn't want to restart what I read were very , ahem, "heated" debates. Bad enough we still have some that want to fire up the anti-Phil Collins machine.
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: June 27 2008 at 11:04
If i wanted to know what prog was and i saw that list,i would never want to investigate further.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 27 2008 at 12:47
Josh_M wrote:
There are a lot of odd choices on there.
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Yes, except let odd = stupid.
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Posted By: 7540113804746400000
Date Posted: July 11 2008 at 10:43
most of the bands on the list seem right, just the placement and albums chosen to represent them were a little off
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 11 2008 at 21:57
What no Jethro Tull ? (what about the Grammy!) 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 11 2008 at 22:24
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 11 2008 at 22:29
That has to be one of the dumbest gags in the history of TV music award shows. Poor Ian had to constantly remind live audiences that their ears were about to explode "with this next little tune". Tull should have received a Grammy for best humour during a concert but the judges (sic) would have probably anointed Lars "the dour Dane" Ulrich with the trophy (So that he can stick it up his conga )
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 00:03
Why there are so few prog albums on that list?
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 19:07
crimson87 wrote:
Why there are so few prog albums on that list? |
I think PA has gotten that same comment on various top 100 lists, including to top 100 of all. One variation is "real prog" 
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 19:37
It it just me or does the singer in Symphony X sound like Tommy Shaw at times ?
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: July 19 2008 at 14:12
I think the magazine is wrong when it says "prog albums" those are prog metal albums, they should have used this label no matter if they are a metal magazine in order to avoid confusion.In my country there is also this misunderstanding , when you say progessive rock they name : "Oh yes DT Pos Opeth".I mean thats progressive metal , no classic prog.
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 21 2008 at 12:02
Should this not have been "Top 24 Prog Metal Albums...., oh, plus Misplaced Childhood"?
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