50 Most Important Progressive Rock Songs
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Topic: 50 Most Important Progressive Rock Songs
Posted By: darkshade
Subject: 50 Most Important Progressive Rock Songs
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:11
I got this list from a friend who was doing a project at his college. I dont remember why, but part of his project was to make a list of the 50 most important progressive rock songs. So that means there's a few songs from artists that arent on this site (although some of them should be).
50 Most Important Progressive Rock Songs
1. King Crimson – “21st Century Schizoid Man”
2. YES – “Close To the Edge”
3. Miles Davis – “Pharaoh’s Dance”
4. Jethro Tull – “Thick As A Brick”
5. Pink Floyd – “Echoes”
6. Genesis – “Firth Of Fifth”
7. The Beatles – “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
8. Frank Zappa – “Peaches En Regalia”
9. Pink Floyd – “Dark Side of the Moon suite”
10. Phish – “You Enjoy Myself”
11. Rush – “YYZ”
12. Genesis – “Supper’s Ready”
13. YES – “Heart of the Sunrise”
14. Rush – “2112”
15. Frank Zappa – “Inca Roads”
16. King Crimson – “Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Part 1”
17. Pink Floyd – “Shine On You Crazy Diamond”
18. Phish – “Reba”
19. Mahavishnu Orchestra – “Meeting of the Spirits”
20. Rush – “YYZ”
21. Dream Theater – “Metropolis Part 1”
22. Weather Report – “Birdland”
23. Return To Forever – “Duel of the Jester and the Tyrant”
24. YES – “Gates of Delirium”
25. Gentle Giant – “Knots”
26. Pink Floyd – “Dogs”
27. Kansas
– “Carry On My Wayward Son”
28. King Crimson – “Starless”
29. Pat Metheny Group – “The Way Up”
30. Opeth – “The Moor”
31. Genesis – “The Musical Box”
32. Jethro Tull – “Aqualung”
33. Phish – “The Divided Sky”
34. Emerson
Lake & Palmer – “Tarkus”
35. Billy Cobham – “Stratus”
36. Frank Zappa – “Don’t You Ever Wash That Thing”
37. YES – “Yours Is No Disgrace”
38. Gentle Giant – “In a Glass House”
39. Dream Theater – “Octavarium”
40. The Mars Volta – “Tetragrammaton”
41. Emerson
Lake & Palmer – “Karn
Evil 9”
42. Focus – “Hamburger Concerto”
43. Camel – “The Snow Goose suite”
44. King Crimson – “Frakture”
45. Frank Zappa – “Gregory Peccary”
46. Umphrey’s McGee – “Nothing Too Fancy”
47. YES – “The Revealing Science of God”
48. Phish – “Fluffhead/Fluff’s Travels”
49. The Mars Volta – “Drunkship
of Lanterns”
50. Utopia – “Utopia Theme”
I would say i agree with about 75% of the list. What do you guys think?
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:18
first of all I would follow my policy of not naming the same artist twice or even more often, no matter how important one might think he is. second: if "Supper's Ready" is named then "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" definitely has to be named since it was the inspiration for that song. third: no Krautrock band? no Magma? no RIO band? no Canterbury band? sorry, definitely not my list
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Posted By: KeleCableII
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:19
I think it's missing King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimon King. I might be totally off, but it seemed like the jazzier prog bands would've taken influence from Schizoid Man while the more symphonic bands took influence from the thick mellotron of In the Court. So I would make that #1 or #2 along with Schizoid.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:20
yea i dont agree with a good portion of the list myself
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:23
BaldJean wrote:
first of all I would follow my policy of not naming the same artist twice or even more often, no matter how important one might think he is. second: if "Supper's Ready" is named then "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" definitely has to be named since it was the inspiration for that song. third: no Kraut rock band? no Magma? no RIO band? no Canterbury band? sorry, definitely not my list
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i think naming an artist twice is fine, but not for every band. Only a band like KC or Frank Zappa should because they have such a diverse catalog and influenced so many different people.
Naming a band more than twice, though, is unnecessary IMO.
I guess the people who made the list did not find bands in Canterbury, Kraut rock or Neo Prog category important enough. Maybe if the list was for 100 most important prog rock songs......
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:27
KeleCableII wrote:
I think it's missing King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimon King. |
unfortunately, it is...
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:43
darkshade wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
first of all I would follow my policy of not naming the same artist twice or even more often, no matter how important one might think he is. second: if "Supper's Ready" is named then "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" definitely has to be named since it was the inspiration for that song. third: no Kraut rock band? no Magma? no RIO band? no Canterbury band? sorry, definitely not my list
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i think naming an artist twice is fine, but not for every band. Only a band like KC or Frank Zappa should because they have such a diverse catalog and influenced so many different people.
Naming a band more than twice, though, is unnecessary IMO.
I guess the people who made the list did not find bands in Canterbury, Kraut rock or Neo Prog category important enough. Maybe if the list was for 100 most important prog rock songs......
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well, then the people who made the list have no idea, I have to say. and I still go with my policy of not naming an artist twice. it reeks of fandom. Hammill has a huge and diverse catalogue too, but nevertheless I would not name him twice. but I would definitely name him once
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 19:53
Also, sorry, but I don't agree neither.
There are some of the songs that are quite useless in the list..
Also if we're talking about important, as BaldJean said, you(I know it wasn't you) must include at least 1 song from each sub-genre. Or at least songs that makes briefly what prog is about, but I think that's different...
Importance of what? Influence, innovation, popular, etc? what did he consider as importance for this list.
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Posted By: Flucktrot
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 21:47
WAAAAYYY too much Phish...I could see Divided Sky or Fluff, but that's
it. I have to say, there's too much Zappa on there as well.
It definitely needs some of the following:
Caravan (probably Nine Feet Underground)
Flower Kings Stardust We Are
Some Porcupine Tree (pick one...)
Harmonium (Histoires Sans Paroles)
Kansas (Song for America....they pick Carry On??? What a cop-out!)
At least some PFM (I'd go with Appena Un Poco)
Other than that, I have to say it is actually fairly decent!
I'm THRILLED to see the Concerto on there...also pleasantly surprised to have The Way Up as well.
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Posted By: Rubidium
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:05
BaldJean wrote:
darkshade wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
first of all I would follow my policy of not naming the same artist twice or even more often, no matter how important one might think he is. second: if "Supper's Ready" is named then "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" definitely has to be named since it was the inspiration for that song. third: no Kraut rock band? no Magma? no RIO band? no Canterbury band? sorry, definitely not my list
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i think naming an artist twice is fine, but not for every band. Only a band like KC or Frank Zappa should because they have such a diverse catalog and influenced so many different people.
Naming a band more than twice, though, is unnecessary IMO.
I guess the people who made the list did not find bands in Canterbury, Kraut rock or Neo Prog category important enough. Maybe if the list was for 100 most important prog rock songs......
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well, then the people who made the list have no idea, I have to say. and I still go with my policy of not naming an artist twice. it reeks of fandom. Hammill has a huge and diverse catalogue too, but nevertheless I would not name him twice. but I would definitely name him once
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I'm guessing the author doesn't even know 50 different prog artists, hence all the repeats.
In fact the entire list looks more like a list of the 50 favorite songs of someone who has been a prog fan for about a year.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:10
Well clearly the list has illicited some hot debate! Lots of Phish everywhere too....and no Canterbury
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:11
Dark side of the moon suite???? What the heck is that? Why don`t you put "Misplaced Childhood" suite instead?
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Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:14
Subterranea (concept album)
Misplaced Childhood (concept album)
The 2 BEST albums ever (IMHO) ....
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:18
what does important mean in this context? a lot of the songs on that list are only important to other prog bands...
I'd have:
#1: Can - Sing Swan Song ;P
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:23
Gregory Peccary? What in the world is that doing on this list? (And I'm a huge FZ fan...)
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:27
what's the definition of ''IMPORTANT""prog songs??? .....It's Important when every fanboy/girl will be happy if this list matches their own taste or not important if by sacrilege one of their ''heroes or worshippees'' dare to be missing from this list !!
My dog Lucy and me are presently working hard on a new ''important ''list, at least very important to us.. We'll keep you posted  Next?
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:34
febus wrote:
what's the definition of ''IMPORTANT""prog songs??? .....It's Important when every fanboy/girl will be happy if this list matches their own taste or not important if by sacrilege one of their ''heroes or worshippees'' dare to be missing from this list !!
My dog Lucy and me are presently working hard on a new ''important ''list, at least very important to us.. We'll keep you posted  Next? |
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:43
Buenas tardes, Pablo.....Oh LUCY has eyes only for me, i am very ''important '' to her, you know
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 00:19
KeleCableII wrote:
I think it's missing King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimon King. I might be totally off, but it seemed like the jazzier prog bands would've taken influence from Schizoid Man while the more symphonic bands took influence from the thick mellotron of In the Court. So I would make that #1 or #2 along with Schizoid. |
A very good point indeed. I'd say Epitaph instead of Court, but the idea behind my reasoning is the same as yours.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 00:24
Tool should be on there at some ppint, also YYZ is on there twice.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 02:08
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 02:25
Darkshade wrote:
11. Rush – “YYZ” 20. Rush – “YYZ” |
I knew it! Rush IS that awesome!  
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 03:01
darkshade wrote:
9. Pink Floyd – “Dark Side of the Moon suite” |
invalid option, try again
darkshade wrote:
15. Frank Zappa – “Inca Roads” 18. Phish – “Reba” |
I don't think so, Tim.
darkshade wrote:
24. YES – “Gates of Delirium” |
and what did this accomplish in terms of importance that "Close to the Edge" didn't?
darkshade wrote:
30. Opeth – “The Moor” |
What makes this song important at all outside of it kicking ass?
darkshade wrote:
32. Jethro Tull – “Aqualung” |
not a prog song
darkshade wrote:
33. Phish – “The Divided Sky” |
Cool song, but totally insignificant in the grand scheme. (Accomplished what that "YEM" did not?)
darkshade wrote:
36. Frank Zappa – “Don’t You Ever Wash That Thing” |
important how?
darkshade wrote:
38. Gentle Giant – “In a Glass House” |
nd this accomplished what exactly that "Knots" didn't?
darkshade wrote:
39. Dream Theater – “Octavarium” |
I don't see how this is important.
darkshade wrote:
40. The Mars Volta – “Tetragrammaton” |
no
darkshade wrote:
43. Camel – “The Snow Goose suite” | re: Dark Side of the Moon
darkshade wrote:
44. King Crimson – “Frakture”
45. Frank Zappa – “Gregory Peccary” |
I don't see their significance.
darkshade wrote:
48. Phish – “Fluffhead/Fluff’s Travels” |
re: The Divided Sky
darkshade wrote:
49. The Mars Volta – “Drunkship
of Lanterns” |
I don't understand why.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 03:53
Let's face it, every author notices different important factors in prog rock therefore everyone could create a valid list of "important" prog songs, it all depends on the purpose you are going to demonstrate through such list (e.g. like different ways the epics were written in different eras of prog).
But making "suites" out of the concept albums? Come on, why not "90125" suite by Yes - it brought many people to listening to prog, therefore it is important 
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 05:49
I love Phish, and it's nice to see them being recognized as prog by somebody (it still pains me to see them listed as prog related on this site), but I would agree that they're getting a little too much recognition on that list. Out of all the songs listed, I'd probably pick You Enjoy Myself as being the most important.
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 06:11
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Tool should be on there at some ppint, also YYZ is on there twice. |
Yeah, it's soooooooooo good, that it deserves to be ranked twice. 
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 07:23
darkshade wrote:
I got this list from a friend who was doing a project at his college. I dont remember why, but part of his project was to make a list of the 50 most important progressive rock songs. So that means there's a few songs from artists that arent on this site (although some of them should be).
50 Most Important Progressive Rock Songs 11. Rush – “YYZ” 32. Jethro Tull – “Aqualung” 42. Focus – “Hamburger Concerto”
43. Camel – “The Snow Goose suite”
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Apart from the massive repetition of some artists, especially Floyd, I was really puzzled by these four. Yes, a Rush inclusion is desirable, but surely either the massively famous 2112, or, more progly, perhaps Tom Sawyer or something like that would have been a better choice. Similarly, Aqualung isn't all that progressive or important, really. Hamburger Concerto, I can't think of any importance for whatsoever. Not that great, nor that influential. Similarly, The Snow Goose baffles me.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 07:54
laplace wrote:
what does important mean in this context? a lot of the songs on that list are only important to other prog bands...
I'd have:
#1: Can - Sing Swan Song ;P |
Totally agree. "Important " in what context?
Influential? Then on the audience/recording buying fans OR fellow musicians.
Best selling?
Numbers of covers?
????
Influential and thinking out side the box::
I would suggest that Vanilla Fudge was influential especially with You Keep Me Hanging On since you see links subsequently with Nice and Touch, and then also heavy rock , e.g. Jeff Beck and Led Zeppelin.
Touch's Alesha & Others/75 : Jon Anderson and Kansas separately claim to have been influenced.
Beatles She So Heavy - made at the height the British blues boom - i.e. the Beatles (especially John Lennon) wanted part of that, so look look to who and want influenced the Beatles (Cream perhaps...)
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 08:54
Such lists are usually very personal, reflecting the taste of the person who compiled them. Therefore, it's quite normal that other people won't find themselves in agreement with the items listed. Personally, I find the use of the word 'important' rather puzzling, since it is not clear at all in which sense those songs should be considered important.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 09:12
the site I came here from did that kind of stuff.. we tried to take influence, popularity, innovation into it
highly subjective. .but it was a hell of a lot of fun.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 09:54
well, I certainly would have had the genres they overlooked in that poll. important songs would definitely have included "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2 and "Der Elektrolurch" by Guru Guru. both songs had a big influence on the German Rock scene. also Magma's "MDK" would have been in there; another very influential song. and of Canterbury perhaps "Flying Teapot" by Gong or some song by Hatfield and the North. but the choices in that list are sometimes ridiculous
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 10:03
an example... of using your mind in doing lists like this.. not your preferences...
ELP - Lucky Man
anyone care to guess.. why it should be high up on a list of important progressive rock songs?
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 10:06
micky wrote:
an example... of using your mind in doing lists like this.. not your preferences...
ELP - Lucky Man
anyone care to guess.. why it should be high up on a list of important progressive rock songs?
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1. Hit, and contributed substantially to ELP's popularity. It wasn't even released as a single in the UK, IIRC, so any sales contributed to album sales. 2. Archetypal and early moog solo 3. That and Take A Pebble introduced ELP to people who wouldn't normally be interested in the weight of, say, Barbarian and Knife Edge. (4. Awesome drumming)
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 10:07
^... bingo.. whether you like it or not... #2 is what makes the song 'important' .
these lists are hard to do.. because you just can't listen to the music.. you have to KNOW the music...
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 10:11
Am I forgiven for victimising The Yes Album?
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 10:19
hahhahahha.. of course hahahhah
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 15:23
I agree with some of it, but where on the list is Gentle Giant - Knots, VDGG - Sleepwalkers, Tool - Reflection and Rick Wakeman - JTTCOTE? they were all pivotal points in prog and helped define the genre: Knots and Sleepwalkers shows off and pushed the diversity of prog, Reflection showed off how one simple riff and a lot of openmindedness can be enough to create a masterpiece and Journey presented how pretentious and classically orientated prog could really be. Not the most obvious of choices, but important and influential nonetheless.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 15:43
wow i didnt realize YYZ was listed twice. That actually may have been my fault since i typed the list off of the original. So i'll find out what the mystery song is.
the "importance" i think is how important the songs were to the development and progression of prog rock as a whole.
Also, other than the first 10 songs or so, i cant truly agree on the selections. I notice no one else has really complained about the top 10.
if i could, (cause i agree with it) my top ten would be tweaked...
1. King Crimson – “21st Century Schizoid Man”
2. YES – “Close To the Edge”
3. Miles Davis – “Pharaoh’s Dance” or "Shh...Peaceful"
4. Jethro Tull – “Thick As A Brick”
5. Pink Floyd – “Echoes”
6. Genesis – “A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers”
7. The Beatles – “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
8. Frank Zappa – “Peaches En Regalia”
9. Rush - "2112"
10. Phish – “You Enjoy Myself”
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 15:47
Harry Hood wrote:
I love Phish, and it's nice to see them being recognized as prog by somebody (it still pains me to see them listed as prog related on this site), but I would agree that they're getting a little too much recognition on that list. Out of all the songs listed, I'd probably pick You Enjoy Myself as being the most important.
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gotta agree with you on that one. Phish are so underrated here and misunderstood. They are ACTUALLY A PROG BAND yet they're in Prog-Related. im all for a new thread on trying to get Phish to be under Eclectic Prog or something.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 16:30
darkshade wrote:
wow i didnt realize YYZ was listed twice. That actually may have been my fault since i typed the list off of the original. So i'll find out what the mystery song is.
the "importance" i think is how important the songs were to the development and progression of prog rock as a whole.
Also, other than the first 10 songs or so, i cant truly agree on the selections. I notice no one else has really complained about the top 10.
if i could, (cause i agree with it) my top ten would be tweaked...
1. King Crimson – “21st Century Schizoid Man”
2. YES – “Close To the Edge”
3. Miles Davis – “Pharaoh’s Dance” or "Shh...Peaceful"
4. Jethro Tull – “Thick As A Brick”
5. Pink Floyd – “Echoes”
6. Genesis – “A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers”
7. The Beatles – “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
8. Frank Zappa – “Peaches En Regalia”
9. Rush - "2112"
10. Phish – “You Enjoy Myself”
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honestly.. no ELP.. no credibility.. unless this is a list of your favorites... Tarkus... not in the top 5. Sort of makes it look silly.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 17:00
personally, id have tarkus at #11
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 17:04
darkshade wrote:
personally, id have tarkus at #11
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behind what?.. the ones you have in front... Rush?.. VDGG?? Phish???.. oh no..
let me put in to you this way.. .you will find Tarkus in many more discussions about important pieces of prog music.. then any of those 3 combined.
my two cents.. it's your list...
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 17:16
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 17:28
I see... was just quoting your 10 though...
just re-title it from 'most important' to .'favorites'. No way that that Tarkus isn't right with CttE. See .. you will find it in texts devoted to prog.. mentioned in the same breath for importance, infuence, and the development of prog and will not find Rush, VDGG, or frickin Phish mentioned anywhere with them.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 18:51
micky wrote:
darkshade wrote:
wow i didnt realize YYZ was listed twice. That actually may have been my fault since i typed the list off of the original. So i'll find out what the mystery song is.
the "importance" i think is how important the songs were to the development and progression of prog rock as a whole.
Also, other than the first 10 songs or so, i cant truly agree on the selections. I notice no one else has really complained about the top 10.
if i could, (cause i agree with it) my top ten would be tweaked...
1. King Crimson – “21st Century Schizoid Man”
2. YES – “Close To the Edge”
3. Miles Davis – “Pharaoh’s Dance” or "Shh...Peaceful"
4. Jethro Tull – “Thick As A Brick”
5. Pink Floyd – “Echoes”
6. Genesis – “A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers”
7. The Beatles – “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
8. Frank Zappa – “Peaches En Regalia”
9. Rush - "2112"
10. Phish – “You Enjoy Myself”
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honestly.. no ELP.. no credibility.. unless this is a list of your favorites... Tarkus... not in the top 5. Sort of makes it look silly.
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well we can always swap out Gregory Peccary for Tarkus 
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 19:00
Worst attempt I've ever seen, and far to much american stuff. These are the only tracks from the list I would have considered including:
1. King Crimson – “21st Century Schizoid Man”
2. YES – “Close To the Edge”
4. Jethro Tull – “Thick As A Brick”
5. Pink Floyd – “Echoes”
8. Frank Zappa – “Peaches En Regalia” 31. Genesis – “The Musical Box”
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 19:03
 
anyway.. instead of tossing stones... let's be fair.. let others toss stones at me. About to head out for some dinner.... so a quick start
a semi-coherent attempt at Most Important Prog Songs
1. KC - 21st Century Schizoid Man 2. Yes - Ctte 3. ELP- Tarkus 4. Pink Floyd - Saucerful of Secrets 5. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
discuss or flame behind my back 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 19:05
micky wrote:
darkshade wrote:
wow i didnt realize YYZ was listed twice. That actually may have been my fault since i typed the list off of the original. So i'll find out what the mystery song is.the "importance" i think is how important the songs were to the development and progression of prog rock as a whole.Also, other than the first 10 songs or so, i cant truly agree on the selections. I notice no one else has really complained about the top 10. if i could, (cause i agree with it) my top ten would be tweaked...1. King Crimson – “21st Century Schizoid Man”
2. YES – “Close To the Edge”
3. Miles Davis – “Pharaoh’s Dance” or "Shh...Peaceful"
4. Jethro Tull – “Thick As A Brick”
5. Pink Floyd – “Echoes”
6. Genesis – “A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers”
7. The Beatles – “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
8. Frank Zappa – “Peaches En Regalia”
9. Rush - "2112"
10. Phish – “You Enjoy Myself”
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at least he could have put Trilogy, at least.
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 19:14
micky wrote:
  anyway.. instead of tossing stones... let's be fair.. let others toss stones at me. About to head out for some dinner.... so a quick start
a semi-coherent attempt at Most Important Prog Songs
1. KC - 21st Century Schizoid Man 2. Yes - Ctte 3. ELP- Tarkus 4. Pink Floyd - Saucerful of Secrets 5. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
discuss or flame behind my back 
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Reminds me that I need to get some early Floyd. And some rocks. And some music knowledge
I'd have thought of Moonchild's crossing of improv and rehearsed moments in a non-musical (image-based) fashion was pretty significant as well. Close To The Edge seems a reasonable water-mark, but I'd have thought that, say, Roundabout was as influential/important, and took place a year earlier. Tarkus and Schizoid Man seem fair enough, even if Camel are more popular. Tubular Bells is a ballsy pick. Why?
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 19:18
febus wrote:
what's the definition of ''IMPORTANT""prog songs??? .....It's Important when every fanboy/girl will be happy if this list matches their own taste or not important if by sacrilege one of their ''heroes or worshippees'' dare to be missing from this list !!
My dog Lucy and me are presently working hard on a new ''important ''list, at least very important to us.. We'll keep you posted  Next? |
Bless Lucy!  As JJ Rousseau so correctly stated "the more I analyze the human race, the more I love my dog" . Woofs have more taste than humans because they all show their real emotions, all the time . I , for one, eagerly await this list with a wag of the tail we all once had a million years ago 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 21:19
TGM: Orb wrote:
micky wrote:
  anyway.. instead of tossing stones... let's be fair.. let others toss stones at me. About to head out for some dinner.... so a quick start
a semi-coherent attempt at Most Important Prog Songs
1. KC - 21st Century Schizoid Man 2. Yes - Ctte 3. ELP- Tarkus 4. Pink Floyd - Saucerful of Secrets 5. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
discuss or flame behind my back 
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Reminds me that I need to get some early Floyd. And some rocks. And some music knowledge
I'd have thought of Moonchild's crossing of improv and rehearsed moments in a non-musical (image-based) fashion was pretty significant as well. Close To The Edge seems a reasonable water-mark, but I'd have thought that, say, Roundabout was as influential/important, and took place a year earlier. Tarkus and Schizoid Man seem fair enough, even if Camel are more popular. Tubular Bells is a ballsy pick. Why?
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easy.. so easy... I don't even type to explain myself.. someone already has.. which explains why it is so high up hahhaha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_Bells - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_Bells
Roundabout would be in 2nd 5 .. along with some.. that may not be so clear.. some non-english.. but still thinking on the next 5. But have two German entries.. sharp minds might figure those out by the time I post it.
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 08:03
Ah, fair enough. Thinking German:
Would we have Phaedra?
I don't know my TD that well, but they'd definitely seem right.
The other one, some sort of Kraftwerk, but I'm not sure what...
Edit: And brilliant sig 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 08:08
love it .... the avatar will never change .. but the sigs I like to rotate occasionally.
no TD.. both I think are a bit of a no brainer.. one though...if people cared enough to get in arms over a stupid list... they probably would be. It doesn't fit what many see as ..err.. prog. 
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 08:10
micky wrote:
love it .... the avatar will never change .. but the sigs I like to rotate occasionally.
no TD.. both I think are a bit of a no brainer.. one though...if people cared enough to get in arms over a stupid list... they probably would be. It doesn't fit what many see as ..err.. prog. 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 08:17
hahhaha.. that is universal truth for those new to or just exploring prog past the same old same old big groups....... .the old farts here have had years to accumulate this stuff. I knew all the English 'classic' stuff since I was a kid... but of course what really grabbed me was the 'continental' stuff that, in the days before the internet and PA's.. I never had been exposed to. Plus for many years I was not heavy into prog.. but was a fiend for the Blues and the musical trends of the day.. new wave, hair metal, grunge alt-rock.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:40
I would put Jethro Tull's "Baker St. Muse", Gentle Giant's "Three Friends" and EL&P's "Pirates", not particularly for my own taste, but for how innovative they were at the time.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:59
micky wrote:
a semi-coherent attempt at Most Important Prog Songs
4. Pink Floyd - Saucerful of Secrets
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Interstellar Overdrive is probably a lot more important than both Saucerful and Echoes. It might even be more important than that Umphrey’s McGee track at 44!
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Posted By: Cthulu
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 23:47
Yeah I agree, "In The Court of The Crimson King" should be on the list along with Nektar's "Recycled" or "Remember The Future"
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Posted By: EnderEd
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 10:29
Is "Roundabout" the first prog song (i.e., not a pop song by a prog artist, but a prog song with prog elements that were not edited out) that was made into a pop single?
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 11:11
EnderEd wrote:
Is "Roundabout" the first prog song (i.e., not a pop song by a prog artist, but a prog song with prog elements that were not edited out) that was made into a pop single?
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Lucky Man (ELP, 1970). Released as a single in the US, if I'm right. That moog solo was distinctly prog, and the drumming isn't exactly pop, either.
I suppose you have Cat Food as well (King Crimson, 1969/1970 can't remember which), but that's more bizarre jazz than pure prog, I'd have thought.
Just a couple of examples. I'm fairly sure Nights In White Satin was also a single, but then, it's questionable whether the Moodies were prog, and whether having a mellotron involved automatically makes something prog.
So, I wouldn't have thought so.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 12:32
"Cat Food" is fully prog; it is not jazzy at all. the piano is wild and weird, but even the piano is not jazz. and I love that wild piano
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 12:34
My mistake, certainly I was employing the not-very-educated guess.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 12:47
It's clear that apart from a few obvious selections, this list appears to miss the mark by any reasonable metric of "important". One would think that ELP was well-known enough to appear here, and as has been said before there are other critical omissions; probably Soft Machine should be there, and there are no representatives from the lesser known but equally important (to many) scenes of Germany and Italy.
And Magma was very important whether or not they are your particular cup of tea.
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 12:52
certainly more important than bloody Camel. ;P
I agree with whichever Baldie that the best lists of these type restrict themselves to one pick per artist, even if that artist is Floyd
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 15:24
I think "Lateralus" should be added, and disagree with parts, but for the most part I think it is pretty acurate.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 18:53
Pretty accurate? Only for american ignorants. Q and Uncut has made more accurate proglists than this.
50% american artists, and three tracks from Phish(!!), and two dreadful ones from Dream Theater?
Nothing from Germany, Italia, France or Japan? No Canterbury, RIO (Zappa doesn't count) or electronic? What a joke.
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In the sunlight, see - it flashes
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Posted By: Blackwater Floyd
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 15:24
Posted By: Blackwater Floyd
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 15:25
i meant the YYZ song is there twice
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Posted By: Cthulu
Date Posted: September 15 2008 at 03:15
If The Moodies were not Prog, then what were they? I'd certainly classify them as Proto-Prog in the "Days Of Future Passed" and "In Search Of The Lost Chord" era and full blown Prog by the time "To Our Childrens..." was released. And, I do agree that having a 'tron involved doesn't necessarily make something "Prog", heck look at ABBA!
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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: September 15 2008 at 10:46
I'm thinking, just from a quick read of the list, that this list is actually about Progressive Rock, NOT music that is progressive. I think he listed all the bands that were essential in the development of the movement known as (Symphonic) Progressive Rock. The bands that aren't symphonic but were listed (Rush, TMV, King Crimson), were there because their music has the same properties as most other progressive rock. Either the guy's definition of progressive rock isn't as expansive as most people's here and so he doesn't include Canterbury/Krautrock/RIO/van der graaf generator, or he doesn't know about those less popular genres and so mistakenly left them out.
(as for including KC or any band twice, I agree with that if the difference between influences and styles is drastic enough....phish though, i have no idea as I haven't heard the songs)
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