Avant metal appreciation thread
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Topic: Avant metal appreciation thread
Posted By: Dim
Subject: Avant metal appreciation thread
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 19:33
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Usually I'm chastised for not like hardcore avant garde and rio acts like: Henry cow, Samla, John Zorn, and some Zappa, but rescently I have found myself adoring the realm of avant metal. In my post rock.metal thread I found myself bragging about too many avant bands, so I decided on making a well deserved thread.
So far in my collection I have:
MotW (barely avant, but great introduction band)
Kayo Dot
SGM
Unexpect
I hope to have this list grow a lot more, though Kayo Dot was a bit too ambient weird for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 19:35
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Look at this website:
http://avantgarde-metal.com/content/index.php - http://avantgarde-metal.com/content/index.php
One has not much to with the other in this case.
Anyway, have you tried Solefald? They're in PA, check them out.
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schizoid_man77 wrote:Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 19:36
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Cheers. One of my favorite faces of metal. ------------- 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 20:04
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Ian...check out Ephel Duath. Trust me,dude. -------------  |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 20:15
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I second Jody's recommendation of Ephel Duath
Some other bands:
Solefald, Manes, Virus, Kekal, Korovakill, Forgotten Silence, Love History, Oxiplegatz, Thy Catafalque, Negura Bunget, In Lingua Mortua, User Ne...
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 20:42
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Wow, I have some catching up to do. -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 21:23
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Assaf listed some good bands but I really need to second his Kekal suggestion.Their Acidity and The Habit of Fire albums are awesome.
I was recently contacted by Kekal mastermind Jeff Arwadi,he sent me a promo of THoF and also wants me to interview him.Damn nice guy too. ------------- |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 21:26
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Kayo Dot took a while for me to get into, you sort of have to be in the mood for it I was wondering if there were any avant-metal bands that keep the METAL aspect in tact, like UneXpect? I LOVE Sleepytime, but they use metal more as a tool to combine with other styles (read: avant-garde) more than as a playing style. edit: also no Ephel Duath, I know of them/Painter's Pallette is pretty good but haven't listened to in a while ------------- 
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 22:08
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Ephel Duath is one of the more challenging bands i have listened to. I dont like their screaming style but the clean vocals are nice when used. strange mix of heavy jazz with hardcore styles. not much in common with the bands you've heard, Ian, at least from my perspective. id try out some of the bands assaf listed, though im not as up to date as id like and havnt heard a few of them. (must check out Kekal)
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 07:35
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Kayo Dot and Maudlin of the Well are two of my favourit bands (Leaving Your Body Map and Choirs of the Eye are both in my top 10 of all time albums), just superb. Must try out the bands Jody and Assaf are mentioning.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 09:15
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Now with links:
Ephel Duath - http://www.ephelduath.net/ - http://www.ephelduath.net/
Solefald - http://www.solefald.org/ - http://www.solefald.org/
Manes - http://www.myspace.com/manes - http://www.myspace.com/manes
Kekal - http://www.myspace.com/kekal - http://www.myspace.com/kekal
Korovakill - http://www.korovakill.com/ - http://www.korovakill.com/
Forgotten Silence - http://fs.redblack.cz/ - http://fs.redblack.cz/
Love History - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2771 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2771
Oxiplegatz - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/4847/oxip.html - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/4847/oxip.html
Thy Catafalque - http://www.thycatafalque.hu/ - http://www.thycatafalque.hu/
Negura Bunget - http://www.myspace.com/negurabunget - http://www.myspace.com/negurabunget
In Lingua Mortua - http://www.myspace.com/inlinguamortua - http://www.myspace.com/inlinguamortua
User Ne - http://www.myspace.com/userneatropanatura - http://www.myspace.com/userneatropanatura
Virus - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2536 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2536 http://www.myspace.com/czral - http://www.myspace.com/czral
Dog Fashion Disco - http://www.myspace.com/dogfashiondisco - http://www.myspace.com/dogfashiondisco
I'll think of more later.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 20:11
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I'm gonna take a gander that these sites dont have the free album download like the post bands... -------------
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 20:18
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ephel duath's stuff doesnt sound much like their albums, listening to their myspace. id look at iTunes samples or something... last fm player or whatnot.
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 23:05
| The only one I'm really familiar with is Unexpect. I guess I have quite a bit of catching up to do as well. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 23:12
I'm ashamed, I forgot Pan-Thy-Monium... 
Look for their PA page - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2328 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2328
http://www.myspace.com/panthymonium - http://www.myspace.com/panthymonium
Also, In The Woods have a relation to this style. In any case they're brilliant.
And check out Stolen Babies - http://www.stolenbabiestheband.com/ - http://www.stolenbabiestheband.com/
http://www.myspace.com/stolenbabies - http://www.myspace.com/stolenbabies
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 23:15
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More Links:
http://www.metalstorm.ee/pub/article.php?article_id=161 - http://www.metalstorm.ee/pub/article.php?article_id=161
http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=8&id=8312 - http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=8&id=8312
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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 23:23
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Avant metal, whether it be pseudo avant metal or real avant metal (Don't ask me for the difference) is some of my favorite musical styles, period. So much good stuff in the genre, really, the ferocity and technicality combined with the experimental and unique sounds of the avant garde.
Good stuff.
Thanks for the links, Assaf. ------------- [QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss] I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 00:10
BIG nod towards this band. A minority of people probably noticed from my 'location' and 'sig' I'm a massive fan. I would suggest starting with their album Omnio. Very emotionally power music. Sadly they are mostly unknown here and everywhere.  |
Posted By: Kazuzu
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 00:19
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How strange anyone hasn't mentioned Arcturus, maybe many people had listened to them, but if not, give them a try, and get The Sham Mirrors. Also, should Devil Doll count as Avant-Garde Metal?, they are here in the archives, but under the categorization of Heavy Prog, and I consider them to be much more than only Heavy Prog. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Kazuzu/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 08:13
Of course, another band I forgot to metiont; highly recommended album!
I would also add Hortus Animae from Italy - http://www.hortusanimae.com/ - http://www.hortusanimae.com/
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 08:45
I saw your location days after you changed it.  I'll have to think Ivan (Trickster) for showing me this band as well as a couple others that I now highly enjoy. I haven't heard much of this genre, but I'm on it. I've still yet to listen to Unexpected and Ephel Duath, but I'll try to prioritize this. Kudos to Negura Bunget and their stunning 2002 album.  -------------
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 20:11
I'm going berserk with Arcturus as of late so  The Sham Mirrors is a tad cheesy but the vocals and keyboards are epic -------------
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Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 21:12
Seriously. Pure classy metal. I suggest starting with "The Painter's Palette" It is crutial to enjoy crazy up tempo & jazzy style playing to enjoy it though. ../album.asp?id=9323 - |
Posted By: Jack-in-the-Green
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 09:43
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I enjoy listening to Mike Patton's projects, especially Mr Bungle and Faith No More (not the most avant-garde but still, Mike Patton) Arcturus are awesome too, and there's a band from the Netherlands called Freak Neil Inc, also, great avant garde metal.I can't really get into "over-psycho" bands like Naked City, or other projects of John Zorn. it's way too much crazy. ------------- Sorry if i have spelling mistakes, english is not my mother tongue. 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 09:58
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^ Listen to Fantomas, their debut album is - for me - one of the real key albums of Avant-Garde Metal.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 11:43
I personally like Suspended Animation more, but they're mostly in the same vein....although that may not be the best recommendation for someone who doesn't want something "too crazy" 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 13:03
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^ But he seems to like Mike Patton a lot ...
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 13:11
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Is mr.Bungle even metal? I thought they were just straight up weird. -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 13:17
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^ " http://ratingfreak.com/Mr-Bungle,_dbe,artists,_auto_2102604.xhtml - Modern Independent/Metal/Rock in Opposition ( - Experimental/Weird/Avant-Garde) " ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 13:19
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I'll need to check them out.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 13:31
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they're kinda a mishmash of every style California's probably their most normal album but it's also my favorite I like the other two though I haven't listened in a while if something's annoying with them take it as tongue in cheek because thats basically how they are -------------
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 14:23
good album, really |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 14:44
Just reposting this in case it got lost
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 03 2008 at 17:05
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To add to my previous post, have a listen to ...And Oceans:
http://www.myspace.com/andoceansold - http://www.myspace.com/andoceansold
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...And_Oceans - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...And_Oceans
http://www.ssmt-reviews.com/db/searchrev.php?artistID=55&showReview=true - http://www.ssmt-reviews.com/db/searchrev.php?artistID=55&showReview=true
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 03 2008 at 17:12
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Just remembered another one:
Hollenthon (lead by Martin Schirenc - Pungent Stench)
http://www.myspace.com/hollenthonofficial - http://www.myspace.com/hollenthonofficial
http://www.hollenthon.com/ - http://www.hollenthon.com/
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 03 2008 at 17:13
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And of course Haggard
http://www.myspace.com/haggard2007 - http://www.myspace.com/haggard2007 http://www.haggard.de/ - http://www.haggard.de/
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Posted By: AceBad
Date Posted: February 04 2008 at 21:51
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Any discussion involving Mike Patton and metal has to include a nod to his incredible collaboration EP with the Dillinger Escape Plan - "Irony Is A Dead Scene". That stuff is insane ... chaotic, violent, and bizarre. The track "When Good Dogs Do Bad Things" is intensely awesome. ------------- http://barddog.org/acebad - http://barddog.org/acebad |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 04 2008 at 21:59
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Wow Assaf, what genre do you not own any crazy underground stuff in? -------------
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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 16:12
Alright, specifics, please.
 I like bands like Mr. Bungle, Estradasphere, Unexpect, Peccantum, Fantomas, Subterranean Masquerade and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.
What do you think I would like? ------------- [QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss] I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 16:23
If you haven't given them a try yet, Secret Chiefs 3!
Trey Spruance does a wicked job with these albums, that still have the genre-hopping of Mr. Bungle just focused more around arabic type music (they also sound a lot like estradasphere off your list there).
Also, try John Zorn's stuff (starting with Naked City, which is downright jaw-dropping)
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 22:41
Secret Chiefs 3 was a great suggestion.
Also try Age of Silence and Diablo Swing Orchestra.  ------------- |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 09:14
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I'm oddly in the mood for some more avant metal, any recommendations? something in the vein of maudlin of the Well, Arcturus, or UneXpect (and I have all 3 SGM albums so don't suggest that )
also rule out because I know of/have albums by:
Secret Chiefs 3
Estradasphere
Kayo Dot
Subterranean Masquerade
Ulver -------------
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 09:23
Oxiplegatz - Sidereal Journey
Solefald - Linear Scaffold & Neonism
Pan-Thy-Monium - whatever you can lay your hands on
And others I posted before:
In The Woods - all their albums, but Omnio in particular
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 16:36
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Also, have a look at Sculptured! Their new album Embodiment (to be released on 19/2 through The End Records) is spectacular!
http://www.myspace.com/matrixmetal - http://www.myspace.com/matrixmetal
Their earlier releases are also highly recommended.
I will be doing an interview with Don Anderson from the band (and form Agalloch and Especially Likely Sloth) for another website soon but I'll post it in PA as well.
If all goes well, I'll announce another interview for another band soon.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 18:49
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thanks, you'll have me looking for the next few weeks
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 13 2008 at 08:51
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Overwhelming list, Assaf. Thy Catafalque is going to be added any time soon?
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 20 2008 at 23:15
I think they were approved for the PMT and are waiting to be added (if I recall correctly, but anyway, it's in their chart at http://www.ratingfreak.com - www.ratingfreak.com )
By the way, I have completed an interview with Don Anderson regarding his new Sculptured album, Embodiment which is spectacular (see my review). I did the interview for the Sonic Frontiers Website and I'll post a link to it when it's published.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 23 2008 at 20:33
Interview posted here:
http://www.sonicfrontiers.net/php/story-26.html - http://www.sonicfrontiers.net/php/story-26.html
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 30 2008 at 21:12
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Something interesting here: http://www.myspace.com/mylesofdestruction - http://www.myspace.com/mylesofdestruction
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 30 2008 at 22:25
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Having Assaf post in a thread before you can be very frustrating. You
don't have a chance of getting an original reccomendation in after he's
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 30 2008 at 22:28
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what do you guys think of Daughters?
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 30 2008 at 22:33
This Daugthers?
http://www.myspace.com/daughters1 - http://www.myspace.com/daughters1
Fun and crazy as I like it.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: April 30 2008 at 22:44
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How about Negura Bungent? Super atmospheric, chill black metal, think of WitTR, but cut out the intesity and add more keyboards. -------------
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 30 2008 at 23:43
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Yeah those dudes. . . pure insanity
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