Mike Portnoy's prognation????
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Topic: Mike Portnoy's prognation????
Posted By: activetopics
Subject: Mike Portnoy's prognation????
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 12:41
| ive heard a while ago about the prognation tour that portnoy's putting together in collaboration with opeth, 3, and btbam....any news on that?? whens it happening?? anything ??? (been off the forums for a couple months so im kinda out of touch hehe) |
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 12:58
| It's supposed to be in the spring. I believe they have South American dates up at this point which take place in March. So, I'd assume North America would be next, then Europe if they are going there. |
Posted By: activetopics
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 13:46
| where are the dates posted? |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 13:51
| As far as I know, no dates have been posted. You're ok. |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 13:52
< id="WebWizRTE" ="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/RTE_.asp?mode=quote&POID=2748009&ID=140" style="border: 1px solid rgb165, 172, 178;" ="initialiseWebWizRTE;" ="20" height="250" width="600"> Mike Portnoy's website. Thinking about it now, I'm not sure if the March dates are the progressive nation ones or if they are just Dream Theater. SOUTH AMERICA 2008 Sat March 1st - Santiago, Chile - Pista Atletica Mon March 3rd - Buenos Aires, Argentina - Luna Park Stadium Tues March 4th - Buenos Aires, Argentina - Luna Park Stadium Fri March 7th - Sao Paulo, Brazil - Creditcard Hall Sat March 8th - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Citibank Hall Sun March 9th - Belo Horizonte, Brazil - Chevrolet Hall Wed March 12th - Bogota, Colombia - El Coliseo Fri March 14th - Caracas, Venezuela - TBC |
activetopics wrote:Posted By: pdrpdr
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 15:59
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We didnt hear anything about Opeth playing here (argentina) this year... only Dream Theater :( ------------- http://automaticw.blogspot.com - My Blog http://www.last.fm/user/Pdrpdr/?chartstyle=lastfmAnrkyplays"> 
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 16:06
| The second Portnoy supergroup eh? This one actually will turn out to be metal. |
Posted By: zarg2112
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 09:24
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Prognation is not a side project, is a festival of only progmetal bands and was created by Mike Portnoy (is like a prog Gigantour). ------------- Oh My Lady Fantasy I... Love You |
Posted By: puma
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 13:35
| so they're flaunting how "prog" they are? isn't that completely dodging the point of progressive rock? |
Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 13:48
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Ummm no actually.... Prognation IS a new band formed by Mike Portnoy. It will feature an all-star lineup of Portnoy on drums, Per Wiberg on keys, Tommy Rogers and Dusty Waring from BtBaM for vocals and guitar, and finally Joe Stote and Daniel Grimsland from THREE providing percussion & additional keys, and bass. Mike Portnoy decided to name the band PROGNATION because, very simply, they plan on converting people into PROG fans by selling cds and touring the NATION, and other NATIONs as well. In fact, the conversions have already begun all across South America, and the Australia/Japan leg tour is halfway complete. ------------- 
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Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 14:05
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The lineup have been playing a 2 1/2 hour set featuring a 37 minute drum solo with about 45 seconds of participation from THREE's percussionist, Joe Stote. Apparently the inspiration for the massive solo was Mike's image in the mirror; In an interview, Mike explained that he saw himself drumming and thought "Wow, I'm good. I'm really really good and loud and fast. I should play a solo where I'm loud and fast. It should be very long, but also very loud and very fast, and also very technical and important, so it can be interesting for people listen to. I should also let the guy from 3 play in it, because he's pretty good too." Reports from the shows say that Mike has actually found a musical way to incorporate the mirror on his drumset, rather than it just be a way to watch himself while drumming. -------------
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 14:13
Why am I not suprised...  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 14:16
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Mike has mentioned that he formed the new band as a side project because his drumming was "so good that it was very diverse, and there is drum work in PROGNATION that just didn't fit (it was too big) in Dream Theater's sound." -------------
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Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 14:17
um I don't have links, sorry
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Posted By: Draith
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 23:29
Yeah my prog-metal loving friends and I are all going to see them in Southern California (or at least I heard the tour would be over here). Can't wait to see them both, especially Opeth touring as a prog band and not with death metal crap bands like Cradle of Filth. Should be great!  |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 23:36
Cradle aren't death metal, but it's still crap anyway , I suspect after DT tours Oz, we wont be getting Prognation anytime in the next 12 months or Australia being Australia, probably never ------------- 
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Posted By: Draith
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 23:39
That's a bit odd, I'm hearing two stories at once now. Maybe their both true  By the way I saw the band THREE (spelled out and not to be confused with "3" which is a different band altogether to my understanding) open for Scorpions last fall... they are INCREDIBLE musicians, they put on literally the best sounding performance I think I have ever seen/heard. The sound effects were used perfectly and the vocalist did an amazing classical solo (it was a slap guitar sort of technique... there's a name for it but I forget). Their music wasn't particularly great, but the musicianship was jaw-dropping. At least I hope that's the same band we're all talking about here and not 3. Odd how those two bands ended up in the same subgenre of prog (crossover). It makes things so confusing! |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 03:31
They were death metal on their demo tapes, and they actually made great music until recently. Blasted sell-outs... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:11
| ^^ no, they were always pussys |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 03:43
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Posted By: khammer99
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 17:13
I saw these guys, (Three), open for Porcupine Tree last November. They did sound awesome on stage. However, we couldn't here the vocals, because we were right up against the stage. Loved the slap playing method. I though that was pretty original and hadn't seen it before. So after the show, my friend buys their latest CD. I was bummed, because I didn't bring enough money to buy a copy for myself, and he couldn't loan me any. We even shook hands with the band, and told them we enjoyed the show, and so on. We threw the CD in the player on the way home, and couldn't believe our ears! The singer, which we couldn't hear in concert, sounded like one of those pseudo boy band singers. It was some kind of "girly" voice. It was awful! We got have way through the CD and we couldn't take it anymore. You'd be surprised how far a CD will fly like a frisbee, when flung out of a car tooling down the freeway.  ------------- Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up. - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: gnossdrawkcab
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 13:41
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the name of the song is bramfatura, its on their cd wake pig i think
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 19:46
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still waiting FOR DATES HMMM MR. PORTNOY HMMMM????
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: February 03 2008 at 01:21
| ^^ en serio |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 03 2008 at 20:25
+1000!
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Posted By: Csejthe
Date Posted: February 04 2008 at 10:43
No, but saying all progressive rock has the same "point" is. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/VomitalxX"> 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 04 2008 at 12:32
Untrue. While saying that prog has a point could sound as if he was generalizing, I personally think that getting together to flaunt your technical skill is about as un-prog as they come. Not because all prog has the same agenda, but more because, frankly, prog was never about "showing off", nomatter what sub-genre you belonged to-- that was metal's department, but I guess because the two are combined now, we have to put up with narcisistic show-offs like Portnoy from time to time,
 (Not that I dislike Dream Theater as a whole, I just don't think much of Portnoy's attitude at times)
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 04 2008 at 12:35
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3 don't really seem like a band that shows off all that much technical skill I mean his flamenco is insane but he doesn't actually "show off" per se and Opeth never struck me as extremely technical although their acoustic passages can be near impossible at times -------------
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 04 2008 at 12:36
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AND SINCE WHEN IS PROG ROCK NOT ABOUT SHOWING OFF WHERE THE HELL HAVE I BEEN FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS? -------------
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 05 2008 at 12:32
Okay, let me be more specific, here . . .
At the START, prog rock wasn't about showing off. Sure, there were technically proficient bands (Yes, King Crimson, etc.), but they didn't flaunt their playing ability as if that was what made them prog. What made them prog was the presentation of the stage show, the depth of the music, and really, the overall experience as a whole. However, for many years now prog has become a sport rather than an art, with countless bands copying Dream Theater and Rush with no original concepts of their own. Bands like this have, in my opinion, made prog a genre in which the only thing that matters is how many notes one can play in a second, rather than what it started out to be, which was a complete listening experience.
This is only my opinion of course, as I can't convince everyone to see it the same way I do, but yeah, I do feel like the more prudish of prog fans actually have no idea what prog really was in the beginning. They knock bands like Pink Floyd and Tool because they can't outplay Yes, but if they would really stop and listen from a listener's point of view, and not as a musician, maybe they could see what the fuss is all about. (Not calling you an elitist per se, I don't even know what bands you do and don't like, or for what reason, I'm just making a general statement, not trying to 'generalize', really.)
P.S. I'm sorry, but your statement about Opeth is the most contradictory thing I have read all week, thanks for the giggles.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 05 2008 at 12:37
| You know actually after studying your signature, I have to say you are not an elitist at all; you seem to have a great variety of taste within the prog genre. That's great! |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 06 2008 at 15:47
thanks 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 07 2008 at 22:00
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US DATES http://deathblackmetal.net/dream-theater-progressive-nation-north-american-tour-metal/ Dream Theater have just recently posted their “Progressive Nation” North American tour dates along with Between the Buried and Me, Opeth, and 3.
29th April - Mexico City, MEX @ National Auditorium * * = Opeth and 3 will not play. I have a DI globals (if we make it ) tournament the day they're in NY -------------
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thankfully there's an Albany date 2 days beforePosted By: acheron
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 00:32
that's a joke right? Mike never seemed that conceded in the interviews I've seen. |
Posted By: Cirzo
Date Posted: February 15 2008 at 10:42
| im really bummed they arn't coming anywhere close to texas |