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Topic: Flute salad
Posted By: Zero the hero
Subject: Flute salad
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 19:59

Who thinks Sax & flute fit into prog perfectly as any Mellotron or Hammond does?

Sax sure works for VDGG & Floyd's 'DSOTM'/'WYWH'

Flute is exceptional with Focus & Gravy train in fact i could'nt imagine the bands without it.

The above examples from many.




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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 20:01
saxes and flute are excellent, but i prefer saxes & trumpets!

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Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 20:39
"I Talk To The Wind" made me fall in love with flutes.


Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 21:55
Jethro Tull would be naked without their flute. And early GENESIS to a lesser extent as well.

FLOYD's 5th instrument is the sax, very important to their sound for sure, Dick Parry's sax work is synonomous with the FLOYD.

Now what about cowbells and gazoos, two all but forgotten rock n' roll instruments?


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Posted By: eebz
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 23:21
we could all use some more cowbell


Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 23:34

I got a fever. And the only cure is more cowbell.



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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 00:29

Mel Collins.

That's all I need to say.



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Posted By: hdfisch
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 00:45
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I got a fever. And the only cure is more cowbell.

What about some holidays in austrian alps?LOL


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 02:51

The flute is an essential part of the Camel sound.

I like the use of non-traditional "rock" instruments in rock music - Gong used plenty of them to great effect - notably on the track this thread is named after



Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 06:17
Also important in Dead Soul Tribe, Devon Graves' flute playing is most excellent

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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 07:23
I think "Sax" has more place in Jazz - don't think it goes well with prog - Flute and woodwind - yes.....

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 07:31
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 07:48
Originally posted by Cluster One Cluster One wrote:

Jethro Tull would be naked without their flute. And early GENESIS to a lesser extent as well.


Absolutely - although, I wouldn't say "to a lesser extent" with Genesis; I think Gabriel's flute playing is pivotal to pre 1975 Genesis.

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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 07:51
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

The flute is an essential part of the Camel sound.

I like the use of non-traditional "rock" instruments in rock music - Gong used plenty of them to great effect - notably on the track this thread is named after

you really steal all my lines.. the ones about dream theatre.. now this one about camel..



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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 14:52
Originally posted by Radioactive Toy Radioactive Toy wrote:

The flute is an essential part of the Camel sound.

 

How about I give this one back?



Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 17:58
Fltue, sax, trumpet, cowbell, clarinet, bassoon, and all those other wind instraments (and yes i kno the cowbell is not a wind instrament) fit perfectly into the progessive genre. I wish more bands would use them.

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 18:11
Don't forget John Egan's contributions to Ozric Tentacles - he's also a superb front man.

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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 21:05

 

Don't forget SOLARIS or QUIDAM!! Great flute in the right places.

Not unlike our fellow member Man with Hat. I wish there were more prog bands with a woodwind/horn player in their line-up. The current progressive scene in South America has in the Argentinian quartet TANGER a perfect example of how a flute can fit well in a prog context. The Spanish band AMAROK has a sax player and a flute player in its line-up, which helps them to fulfill colourful landscapes of sound for their prog style rooted in Renaissance, Celtic and Arabic folk.

 



Posted By: topographic2112
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 19:26

Sax - VDGG, early Crimson

Flute - Tull, Focus, early Genesis (even though it was pretty minimal), Moody Blues

Mellotron - Genesis, Yes, Crimson, Moody Blues

Hammond - ELP, Genesis

Violin - Crimson, Kansas, Mahavishnu Orchestra



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Posted By: Mr. Krinkle
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 00:37

Flute on Jethro Jull, damn basic, it is good on focus to, incredible on crimson's early works. Sax is great  on several bands as well. So, i guess any kind of instrument can be added to prog rock, i mean, for me prog rock has this sort of flexibility that you woulndt find in other rock generes.



Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 04:09
Originally posted by Yams Yams wrote:

"I Talk To The Wind" made me fall in love with flutes.


Oh yes, you're so right.

There's a beautiful flute moment on "many a mile to freedom" from the Traffic album: "the low spark..."


Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 08:23
Originally posted by Mr. Krinkle Mr. Krinkle wrote:

 So, i guess any kind of instrument can be added to prog rock.

The first Kayak album even includes a prominent art for Dutch street barrel organ...



Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 08:29
The overexposure of Kenny G during the last 80's made me hate sax. But it certainly gives a special atmosphere, for example in DSOTM. On the other hand,  flute is the core of my preferred band, Tull, in consecuence I love it.

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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 08:44

Flutes Suit Prog Well

Hear Florian Schneider's Multi Track Flute on "TONEBIRGE"

from KRAFTWERK- "Ralf / Florian"



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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 08:51
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

Flutes Suit Prog Well

Hear Florian Schneider's Multi Track Flute on "TONEBIRGE"

from KRAFTWERK- "Ralf / Florian"

TRUE!!...the flute is also formidably used in the two first albums...ear the magic epic piece called megaherz on their first! 

Organisation (Schneider & Hutter original band) also contains a few flute parts to sustain the jam sessions.



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 08:56

I hate Sax, I always have. It ruins everything its in,making me diskike an otherwise good track!



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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 09:15

SONNY ROLLINS



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:00

Sony Walkman



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:07
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Sony Walkman

LOL

Snow Dog was victorious!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clap



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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:31

your lack of respect for the jazz maestro Sonny Rollins is just shoking!!!



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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:35
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

your lack of respect for the jazz maestro Sony Rollins is just shoking!!!

Er... they are making a joke about your mispelling, i guess. The correct name (if i'm not wrong) it's Sonny.

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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:39
all right!

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:41
Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

your lack of respect for the jazz maestro Sony Rollins is just shoking!!!

Er... they are making a joke about your mispelling, i guess. The correct name (if i'm not wrong) it's Sonny.

To be quite honest I don't know how you spell his name. Who is he? Do I care? As I sed B4, I hate Sax, Sex Ok yes please, Sax non!

" jazz is not dead, it just smells that way"



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Posted By: VLADO
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:45
listen pampered menial of pavlovs dog and you will find beatiful sounds not only of flute but violin also (eg. the very first track Juliet)

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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 10:45

to Snow dog

this guy figures among the 10 top jazzmen of all time, next to Miles Davis, Herbi Hanckok, Charlie Parker and few others.

and I love the use of brass instruments in prog music...



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 11:18
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

your lack of respect for the jazz maestro Sonny Rollins is just shoking!!!

Why,has he just died or something?Confused

Philippe your obnoxiousness eclipses even my own.Wink

 



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 11:24
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

your lack of respect for the jazz maestro Sonny Rollins is just shoking!!!

Why,has he just died or something?Confused

Philippe your obnoxiousness eclipses even my own.Wink

 

Slap him he's French!  No no only joking.....sorry



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 11:36
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

your lack of respect for the jazz maestro Sonny Rollins is just shoking!!!

Why,has he just died or something?Confused

Philippe your obnoxiousness eclipses even my own.Wink

 

Slap him he's French! 

Yeah they burn our women and shag our sheep!Angry

Or sometging like that.....LOL



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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 11:56

The melancolic and sad tune 'sequent C' played on the flute in Tangerine Dream Phaedra

One of the most dramatic piece in the history of prog music



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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 11:59

Flutes sound awesome in prog. Folk



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 12:03
I got no problem wiv flute

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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 15:55
Ian Anderson is getting old 

Bilden “http://www.piney.com/Noseflute2.gif” kan inte visas, då den innehåller fel.


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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 15:57
bahaha.

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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 16:11

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Ian Anderson is getting old 

Bilden “http://www.piney.com/Noseflute2.gif” kan inte visas, då den innehåller fel.

Yeah,Ian certainly nose flute!Embarrassed



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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 16:13


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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 16:24
Bilden “http://www.j-tull.com/press/pressphotos/lowres/webphotoIA.jpg” kan inte visas, då den innehåller fel.

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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 19:23

Might have to go with Snow Dog on this - not terribly enarmoured by the sax in prog but have always loved the flute. Hence, a big fan of Jethro Tull, Focus, Camel and others who use the flute. But I still appreciate the use of the sax especially in some KC and PF.

The use of the flute and sax are integral to prog music - it's hard to imagine prog without those instruments



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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 19:53

I wish that people would use more than just sax in the brass dept.  I'd love to hear some Trumpet or trombone in my prog.



Posted By: beterdedthnred4
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 21:45
...and now for my weekly canterbury plug....

How about Hatfields' "Fitter Stoke has a Bath" with some of the lushest flute work of all time in the mid-section.




Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 22:22

Chris Wood (flute, sax) from Traffic:

You Can All Join In

 

 



Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: April 15 2005 at 00:28
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

The melancolic and sad tune 'sequent C' played on the flute in Tangerine Dream Phaedra

One of the most dramatic piece in the history of prog music



Philippe you're right there!!


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 15 2005 at 05:39
Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

The melancolic and sad tune 'sequent C' played on the flute in Tangerine Dream Phaedra

One of the most dramatic piece in the history of prog music



Philippe you're right there!!

Well........I suppose hes got to be right about something!

"Waiter, theres a trumpet in me prog!"



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