The WORST prog album of 07?
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Topic: The WORST prog album of 07?
Posted By: alanerc
Subject: The WORST prog album of 07?
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 22:13
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Systematic Chaos no need to explain why, just listen |
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 22:14
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Scarsick Took me about a second to think of that one. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 22:33
I tend to avoid albums I wont like, so I wouldn't know. 
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 22:40
I agree, but a thread like this is headed in a bad direction. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
alanerc wrote:Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 23:10
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Scarsick even though the first half is absolutely hilarious.
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Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 23:34
and just what was YOUR #16 album of the year
 ?ah well, yeah that sucked (cept for the liberal amounts of diet coke it provided)
but if angels & airwaves new album counts in any way shape or form...
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 23:39
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Systematic Chaos is far from the worst album of the year. It wasn't perfect, but it had some amazing tracks, and no tracks were entirely poor.
Scarsick by a mile. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 23:59
| Well, as is always the case, it isn't so much the item of lowest quality as it is the biggest disappointment. It's easy to avoid a pile of s**t you smell from a mile away, but it really sucks when it's downwind and you step right in it. Because of this, I'll have to pick Scarsick. This same theory applies to films I watch. Spider-Man 3 is my pick for box office stinker of the year. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:03
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I have no idea about worst, so I can merely say from my fairly limited listening... I haven't heard enough full albums not to my taste this year to say, but Snakes and Arrows is one that I didn't care for. I know there are others, but the names escape me. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:11
| ^btw, definitely not saying that I believe that to be the worst album of the year, just my least favourite from the ones I recall hearing. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:26
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^ ditto... hear so many... only a couple stand out .... the Rush album did nothing for me... but they stopped being 'prog' long ago... so they get a free pass in this thread. The one that really stands out is.... as usual it seems... one that people seem to love. Nice album.. but as a prog album... I have to wonder if I am saying this.. but I am. Found Systematic Chaos more interesting from a prog fan standpoint than Fear of a Blank Planet. That album did NOTHING for me. Wilson could throw sh*t on the wall in this forum.. and have it hailed as the prog album of the year.  but thankfully it seems... I missed Scarsick hahhah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:32
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I liked Scarsick. As far as worst, there's a ton of crap on FM alternative radio being labeled as prog that i don't like.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:35
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Systematic Chaos was my number 4 prog album of the year its several steps up from Octavarium in many places (and one or two back in a few songs but those wind up humorous anyway, so I win either way) ------------- 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:36
you need to hear at least the first half, to not do so is to not live  -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:40
I dare say... it is the first DT album.. that has improved in my opinion upon subsequent listens.. they all have caused blood to flow from the ears on the first listen... but for some reason.. that one is an improvement over others... and I haven't put my finger quite on why. It isn't the singing.. Labrie is just a godawful singer.. the lyrics are just plain stupid... but yes.. I was able to hear Myung.. and the music itself.. simply wasn't as bad or cringeworthy as other albums were to me. Or maybe Raff's presence in my life has made me into a big old teddy bear and DT has hit a soft spot in my heart... who knows. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:41
I agree with this, I tend to not like negative threads. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:42
hahhahah... and I do mean to live before all the sin I am responsible for catches up to me and takes me away in a clap of thunder and lightning hahahha. I'll check it out... like many... I tend to stay away from sh*t I know I won't like (DT being the exception.. just because it is so much fun to hate them hahhah) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 00:46
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Toss up between Scarsick and Systematic Chaos. Both of these albums weren't too bad in my opinion, seems liked all the albums I have listened to thus far this year were good. I'm sure in a few months I'll catch a few of the sh*tty ones.
Scarsick had some beauty in it, in my opinion. Systematic Chaos was a step in the right direction for DT, but they have become behind the rest. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 01:17
Scarsick, though not all that good (a 6/10 in my book) is by far more refreshing, and invigorating that Systematic Chaos. At least Pain of Salvation took a chance...
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Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 01:23
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Personally, I avoid listening album that I would regret buying. That´s why I haven't listened Systematic Chaos nor Scarsick ------------- ********** **razifa** ********** |
Posted By: alanerc
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 01:26
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well, I'm newbie, obviously, so I only heard a few prog albums, and yes, you may say because I did'ntlisten too much albums of 2007 I can't say that SC was the worst prog album of 2007. The reason I chose SC was: -The Labrie's voice is the same in all the tracks, I'm not saying his a bad singer, only saying that he sings the same way since Falling into Infinity -Forsaken, Constant motion prophets of war and the ministry of lost souls, I hate'em en every single way -Everybody was saying that SC was going to be the big DT release, the release of 07 etc. and what a surprise, it wasn't what everyone expected -I'm good with the drums and keyboards and, that's all I think, Â I didn't hear scarsick |
Posted By: KeleCableII
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 01:48
| Systematic Chaos, Snakes & Arrows, Fear of a Blank Planet and Scarsick were all disappointments. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 02:07
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Jean Michel Jarre - Teo and Tea
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 02:58
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Well, I guess the good thing about Scarsick is that Daniel and the band would be hard-pressed to make something worse... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 03:49
Oh come on, best comedy movie of the year. The director was tired of Spiderman when he made it. I mean come on; he beats Venom then he's like, "Good riddance." They were so referencing the Green Day song. Then he pushes his hair in front of his eyes. He was going so emo, the whole crew must have been cracking up.
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 04:10
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 04:16
| For years I have hoped for a return of Rush to their former prog glory days I realise now that's not likely to happen so not because Snakes & Arrows is a bad CD its far from bad but because it was billed prior to its release as being a "return" to past glory I felt some what empty inside when I finally digested it ... that CD gets my vote yet not because its bad ! but because of its exaggerated sales pitch prior to it being released. |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 04:44
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There's no worst prog album in 2007 for me because I only buy cds I like (just 20 this year). The only thing I can say is that I will no longer buy albums of theses bands: Dream Theater, Glass Hammer, Marillion, The Flower Kings, The Watch, Kaipa, ... |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 05:08
How do you know you won't like them if you avoid them?  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 05:40
| Snakes and Arrows is the best Rush album in a while, I think. That's why it got such hype. What they should do is make something in the style of Xanadu, that would be ballsy. Anyway, worst prog album of 2007... I could say a certain band that I loathe, but I wasn't expecting anything from them. The biggest disapointment seems more important, so I'll say Fear of a Blank Planet. It's a decent album, but Porcupine Tree was pretty much the band that I had the most hopes for. After Deadwing I thought they were the greatest thing ever, so FOABP was a rather large disapointment. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 05:51
Agreed, both. |
Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 08:07
I agree completely, it's awful. |
Posted By: steve j
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 08:22
Hooray - I have found someone else on the same wavelength. They are not bad albums, but the amount of talent on display, you would have thought they could have done much better! I do not consider either of the first two albums prog, rather metal with a meager sprinkling of prog. 2007 wasn't a good year for prog.
I never heard Scarsick
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 08:38
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I actually enjoyed 'Systematic Chaos' a lot more than I expected to. Some of the lyrics get a bit close to Manowar territory (all that 'dark master within I will fight for you' stuff in 'In The Presence Of Enemies') but it might just be the only DT album that didn't have a song I disliked. Not my album of the year as they haven't really deviated too far from their usual sound, but still took a few more chances than some ('Repentance' and that Floyd-ish instrumental section in 'In The Presence Of Enemies' were different for them).
Has to be 'Scarsick' for me, of the ones I heard. I liked 'The Perfect Element' quite a bit but this is not to my taste. They had something 'important' to say and that need to get a message across really harmed the music, IMHO.
Generally though, I've enjoyed most of the prog albums I got this year. Most of what I liked last year (Frost and The Flower Kings in particular) I kind of went off the boil about pretty quickly but that won't happen with this year's releases.
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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 09:43
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You guys are crazy! Scarsick is awesome! ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 10:09
I thought the first 3 were great albums actually.
Never heard Scarsick though but I bet it was great |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 10:33
O joy, another negative thread, and featuring Dream Theater too. Lets see how long this one lasts
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 10:41
When I was a kid we used to have a comic TV show for children, by the duo Theo and Thea. Can't help it, but the association makes me want to try this album Here they are:  ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 10:58
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That's quite scary, Angelo! Geck0's Turkey of the year: Pain of System of a Down Linkin' Park Salvation - Scarsick -------------   
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 13:04
The latter. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 13:42
Yikes! Well, if you like to shake your age on techno/boogie/disco music, Teo and Tea, the new ones, are right the stuff for you.  If not, bleah it out of your mind.  -------------
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 13:44
Quite so. Even feeling sick about Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Rush or Pain Of Salvation isn't original anymore.  A shame that 2007 is, after all, made of so many new albums, and so much diversity, yet these artists's new goodies are constantly the most loved/hated. -------------
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 15:27
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PAIN OF SALVATION - Scarsick
MAGELLAN - Innocent God |
Posted By: Speesh
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 22:54
| Can't say I've listened to any bad prog albums this year, but I did think Fear of a Blank Planet was disappointing. I can't even pinpoint why it just seemed...lacking compared to their other releases. Maybe my expectations were too high. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 22:57
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Moody Noobs--This EP sucks even worse than the last one did
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:07
Oh dear.. they look so RIO!
  My turkey of the year: JMJ - Teo & Tea. Decent dance/house music, but bad for Jarre's standards!
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 08:41
| I think that Scarsick is not that bad. Maybe it woul be a better idea to release it as a Daniel Gildenlöw solo project under the moniker Rage Against the Stairmaster or something like that. The worst about this album that it is supposed to be 2nd part of The Perfect Element. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 09:21
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No offense, but what's with everyone buying music they don't like? Don't you read reviews and/or listen to samples first? I honestly can't recall the last time I bought what I consider to be a poor album.
(Though it happened to me a bit in the old days, when a previously-loved band would release a dud -- is that the case here? Still, it's easier to hear before buying these days.
 )Are people largely referring to albums they may have heard via a friend, but did not buy? How many listens are enough to fairly judge an album? Just curious as to how so many get to condemn so many albums all of the time (and write all those negative reviews). I like about 99% of my 1200 CD collection. ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Casartelli
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 10:29
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I think Snakes & Arrows was the best Rush album in 14 years and FOABP may not be PT's best, but it taught me to love Deadwing. Systematic Chaos was a slight improvement above 8V, the band has lost my interest a bit so it was no disappointment anyway. Ah well, now I've reacted to 80% of the previous posts. I think the worst thing I heard this year was Starcastle's comeback. Disappointing (I like their old records so I could have had a positive expectation) as well as downright awful.
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Posted By: Big Ears
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 06:56
| I do not know which was the worst progressive rock album of 2007, but it was NOT Systematic Chaos. I can recommend Systematic Chaos as a traditional progressive rock fan - but not as someone who knows an awful lot about Dream Theater. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 21:53
| I was gonna say, did Dream Theater have a release this year? That would by default have to qualify. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 15:13
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Kamelot: Ghost Opera....was fairly uninspiring... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 16:04
lmao
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